Big ramy's cycle...

[AlwaysHungry]

LOL pros use crazy high dosages of anything. Genetics is just wide delts etc. No way 1G test get you to that level except that you need hgh to create new muscle fiber and burn fat anytime you need drol for fullness when you are 260lb you dont pop 150mg anadrol of course. HGH creates new muscle fiber you need more gear to grow those fibers you need trenbolone on high enough dosages to create that seperations you need to push the water beehing the muscle to pop up you need your skin to attach on the muscle. This is not going to happen with 500mg test and 500mg tren lets be serious. Theyr'e pinning more than 15 ius hgh a day they push test dosages higher 3-4 grams they use boldenone high enough 1-2g pre comp they use tren on 150-200mg ed and more along with high dosage anadrol they pop lasix and pee out all the water they have left betwee the muscle and the skin. Thats why slin changed the game they got so much water that even best diuretics cant remove they kill seperations and aesthetics in the name of mass fukin insulin abusers.

 

[Jankauskas]

LOL pros use crazy high dosages of anything. Genetics is just wide delts etc. No way 1G test get you to that level except that you need hgh to create new muscle fiber and burn fat anytime you need drol for fullness when you are 260lb you dont pop 150mg anadrol of course. HGH creates new muscle fiber you need more gear to grow those fibers you need trenbolone on high enough dosages to create that seperations you need to push the water beehing the muscle to pop up you need your skin to attach on the muscle. This is not going to happen with 500mg test and 500mg tren lets be serious. Theyr'e pinning more than 15 ius hgh a day they push test dosages higher 3-4 grams they use boldenone high enough 1-2g pre comp they use tren on 150-200mg ed and more along with high dosage anadrol they pop lasix and pee out all the water they have left betwee the muscle and the skin. Thats why slin changed the game they got so much water that even best diuretics cant remove they kill seperations and aesthetics in the name of mass fukin insulin abusers.

Just this other day watched a YouTube video of a Brazilian guy that is going to compete in the nabba worlds in Italy, and the guy was talking about the stuff that he was taking during the prep, and essentially he took 1ml of every anabolic available to mankind everyday, peptide shots with every meal, hgh and a shitload of orals.

The guy claimed that by half of the day he would already have taken like 15 shots total, and that he took about 30 pills a day. Also claimed to have taken 3grams of Tren a week before starting to use peptides, but since he switched from slin and hgh to peptides and hgh he doesn’t need as much.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Just this other day watched a YouTube video of a Brazilian guy that is going to compete in the nabba worlds in Italy, and the guy was talking about the stuff that he was taking during the prep, and essentially he took 1ml of every anabolic available to mankind everyday, peptide shots with every meal, hgh and a shitload of orals.

The guy claimed that by half of the day he would already have taken like 15 shots total, and that he took about 30 pills a day. Also claimed to have taken 3grams of Tren a week before starting to use peptides, but since he switched from slin and hgh to peptides and hgh he doesn’t need as much.

I'm reminded of the old expression "throw caution to the wind" - in this case, just about anything and everything was thrown away. Madness.

 

[heavylifter87]

The truth is somewhere in the middle , no question guys are using quite a bit of gear , but no they are not using 300 mgs of drol and 5-10 grams of gear a week.. wouldn’t be able to eat .

I would say most take 5-10 Ius gh a day/ maybe 10-20 IUS Insulin on and off throughout season/ 1-2 grams of Test/ then perhaps 500+ of deca or eq/.. before contest similar but switching to things like primo winny etc.. on average 2-3 grams a gear total leading up to the show .. many gym rats do this and look like shit

 

[heavylifter87]

There is no way around it though 500 mgs of Test and all the food and great training is only gonna get you so far .. have to use more over time .. depending on how far you want to push your body.

All this being said though 1-2 grams of Test alone with an excellent amount of food and hard intense training you can Become extremely big .

 

[Supermansson11]

Someone in ramys camp posted his offseason cycle 5g test 3G tren 2g deca and 3G eq weekly and 100mg dbol, 300mg anadrol, and 36iu of hgh daily. Is there any way that these numbers are even close? More than likely this was just some bunk post I doubt anyone besides ramy and Dennis James know what he actually takes but there's no way he's taking that much oral and able to even get out of bed let alone train and eat all day. Any thoughts gentleman?

Could be true at my best i was running
100mg.d.bol a day
150mg.anadrol
50mg.winny
100mg.test s.
1000mg.test e.
50mg.inject d.bol
10mg.s.drol

I was 21,luckily i took a shit load liver stuff and had my dr.constantly check on me.

 

[Supermansson11]

Could be true at my best i was running
100mg.d.bol a day a day
150mg.anadrol a day
50mg.winny aday
100mg.test s.a day
1000mg.test e. A week
50mg.inject d.bol a day
10mg.s.drol a day
Deca.500mg.a week

I was 21,luckily i took a shit load liver stuff and had my dr.constantly check on me.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

@ChestRockwell you must have come across actual pro cycles, as well as studied where diminishing returns kick in, where do you think the upper boundary lies for what can be utilized?

 

[heavylifter87]

There’s a study that bill Roberts referred too, by Forbes I think , 4 grams of Test a week still being utilized albeit not twice as strong as 2 grams ... but still the more you use the more muscle you get but for sure things diminish greatly

 

[tenpoundsleft]

There’s a study that bill Roberts referred too, by Forbes I think , 4 grams of Test a week still being utilized albeit not twice as strong as 2 grams ... but still the more you use the more muscle you get but for sure things diminish greatly

Yep, I forgot to mention that one, didn't he find that after 2 grams of test per week, the returns were minimal to nonexistent?

And of course, that was focused on a pure test cycle IIRC, so not like the zombie cocktails we're hearing about in this thread.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

The truth is somewhere in the middle , no question guys are using quite a bit of gear , but no they are not using 300 mgs of drol and 5-10 grams of gear a week.. wouldn’t be able to eat .

I would say most take 5-10 Ius gh a day/ maybe 10-20 IUS Insulin on and off throughout season/ 1-2 grams of Test/ then perhaps 500+ of deca or eq/.. before contest similar but switching to things like primo winny etc.. on average 2-3 grams a gear total leading up to the show .. many gym rats do this and look like shit

Are you serious? 300mg drol is normal. Mutuation from gh comed from 15+iu a day the truth is not in the middle they use as much as they can 1 gram of test is really average big number competetive guys go more they dont use deca at all at pro levels they use eq and 500mg isn't enough for me

 

[SuperSwede]

Andreas Münzers last cycle, true or not.
Died 1996.

Weeks 1-10
ephedrine
aspirin
clenbuterol
valium
captagon-- scheduled 1 drug in the US, meaning no legitimate medical use-- it is an amphetamine-type stimulant--
cytomel

Weeks 1-5
500mg daily of test enanthate
152mg daily of parabolan
150mg daily of dianabol
150mg daily of halotestin
20 IU daily of HGH
20 IU daily of Insulin

Weeks 6-8
300mg daily of masteron
152mg daily of parabolan
250mg daily of winstrol tabs
150mg daily of halotestin
50mg daily of winstrol inj
24 IU daily of HGH

Weeks 9-10
200mg daily of masteron
100mg daily of winny inj
200mg daily of halotestin
400mg daily of winny tabs
24 IU daily of HGH
Insulin daily
IGF-1 daily

Days 1-3 leading up to show
aldactone, lasix

 

[heavylifter87]

Are you serious? 300mg drol is normal. Mutuation from gh comed from 15+iu a day the truth is not in the middle they use as much as they can 1 gram of test is really average big number competetive guys go more they dont use deca at all at pro levels they use eq and 500mg isn't enough for me

No one is running 300 drol a day and staying on it very long able to eat or sleep . As far as eq deca I’m saying there are some using 500+ as well as the test 1-2 grams . Maybe somewhere between 500-1000 mgs for many pros for Deca/eq/ primo/ mast type drugs.. This is just a rough estimate . The biggest hitters are gh test and slin

 

[Jankauskas]

No one is running 300 drol a day and staying on it very long able to eat or sleep .

They take drugs to sleep.

 

[MeatHead69]

No one is running 300 drol a day and staying on it very long able to eat or sleep . As far as eq deca I’m saying there are some using 500+ as well as the test 1-2 grams . Maybe somewhere between 500-1000 mgs for many pros for Deca/eq/ primo/ mast type drugs.. This is just a rough estimate . The biggest hitters are gh test and slin

dude if you think professional body builders, like Kai Greene, Big Ramy and Phil Heath are moderate on the gear you are a special kind of retard. They are using a minimum of 3grams. Use your brain bro and do some reasearch.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

dude if you think professional body builders, like Kai Greene, Big Ramy and Phil Heath are moderate on the gear you are a special kind of retard. They are using a minimum of 3grams. Use your brain bro and do some reasearch.

3 grams on a cruise

 

[Jankauskas]

dude if you think professional body builders, like Kai Greene, Big Ramy and Phil Heath are moderate on the gear you are a special kind of retard. They are using a minimum of 3grams. Use your brain bro and do some reasearch.

A minimum of 3 grams a day

 

[heavylifter87]

dude if you think professional body builders, like Kai Greene, Big Ramy and Phil Heath are moderate on the gear you are a special kind of retard. They are using a minimum of 3grams. Use your brain bro and do some reasearch.

I know what kai uses on a cruise it’s not 3 grams minimum ... there are SOME thst use a lot yes but most ifbb pros fall in the 2-3 grams range overall for total use . Gh and slin is a big factor

 

[heavylifter87]

A minimum of 3 grams a day

What a fucking moron. 21 grams a week . Let me guess another 200 lb skinny faggot that knows nothing about hard training and diet

 

[Jankauskas]

. Let me guess another 200 lb skinny faggot that knows nothing about hard training and diet

Don’t be too hard on yourself.