Why I LOVE IGF-1 LR3

[trackstar19]

I've been using and competing for 12 years now, and over the years my blood sugars have gone to shit. I suspect it's partially genetics, partially slin use, partially all the GH, and partially all the carbs i pounded to put on my size originally.

So my biggest challenge the past few years is keeping my blood sugars down without relying on exo insulin. I've had minor success with low dose DNP, berberine/metformin, keto diet (which i utilize most days), but the biggest thing to bring my sugars down and re-sensitize has been IGF-1 LR3. Hands down.

I had tried a few peptide/chem research companies igf-1 lr3 but it always seemed way under dosed or the feeling i got was more so that of GHRH or insulin itself. I finally researched online and read up enough to where i saw 'xpeptides' sold igf-1 lr3 that had tested really well (by jano which i know doesn't hold much weight on this board with you guys which i get but it still gave me some peace of mind and i do trust jano enough that it sold me on it)

so in a last ditch effort before agreeing to buy real increlix from my buddy (for $3000 dollars no less, lol). i bought a few vials of this places igf-1 lr3 and started running it at 40mcg... pumps like i couldn't believe, and i don't know why but my skin had that thinskin (read: dickskin) look to it and i quickly both dropped fat, stayed pumped 24/7, but more importantly i could FEEL my body was partitioning shit and moving it again. my blood sugars literally went from 110 resting in the AM fasted to after 4 weeks on it i was down to 87 resting in the AM. Mind you I have been competing for quite some time and stay around 7-9% BF year round so any changes are especially noticeable for me as opposed to someone not quite as lean or as in tune with their body.

I have a feeling most guys who said they don't like igf-1 lr3 either used cheap bunk shit which most of it is in my experience and just haven't bought the good stuff, or they were not lean enough to really see just how powerful it is - or they already partition things so favorably with low blood glucose naturally so they didn't get as much from it. For me it has been a total game changer. I literally put this up there with tren as my favorite thing of all time. Not trying to schill and i don't work for xpeptides (or rep any company for anything in the fitness realm), but i really think if guys used real quality igf-1 lr3 they'd be believers, too.
(i am on it again right now while finishing up prep 8 weeks out from a big show)

 

[wsw16]

So you use 40 mcg per day? When do you take it and sub q or IM?

 

[trackstar19]

So you use 40 mcg per day? When do you take it and sub q or IM?

I use anywhere from 40-70mcg daily when i cycle it, usually starting with 40 for a bit then i add a little more depending how long i stay on. If i am just using it for 1-2 days to look full and ripped for a certain date i do 70mcg for that (i.e.: if i am not cycling it but throw it in to look good for a party/beach/wedding/etc.)

I take it in the morning so it starts helping my BG levels right off the bat since they are high naturally. I then stay fasted until 4-5PM and so it seems during those 6-7 hours i am fasted with it in my system the contents of my digestive system/etc. are moved accordingly and my BG drops into an acceptable range. This again is for me to help both with gains, leanness, but more importantly with my blood sugars. So i use it the way i think is most optimal for that - and it has been working pretty well i enjoy it.

I run it both with/without GH. Currently using it with GH so i shoot both in the am together. Without GH i find i get that 3d balloon look with thin skin on the igf-1 better, with GH i am a bit fuller but also seem to hold more subq water.

 

[gear shef]

Their site doesn’t work

 

[stone988]

how much gh? and does it lower blood sugar on higher gh doses. Also I heard not to mix it with Bac water that acetic water is better. 50 mc im seems to work amazing for me, but I am more interested in the other benefit you mentioned thanks

 

[Dr JIM]

I've been using and competing for 12 years now, and over the years my blood sugars have gone to shit. I suspect it's partially genetics, partially slin use, partially all the GH, and partially all the carbs i pounded to put on my size originally.

So my biggest challenge the past few years is keeping my blood sugars down without relying on exo insulin. I've had minor success with low dose DNP, berberine/metformin, keto diet (which i utilize most days), but the biggest thing to bring my sugars down and re-sensitize has been IGF-1 LR3. Hands down.

I had tried a few peptide/chem research companies igf-1 lr3 but it always seemed way under dosed or the feeling i got was more so that of GHRH or insulin itself. I finally researched online and read up enough to where i saw 'xpeptides' sold igf-1 lr3 that had tested really well (by jano which i know doesn't hold much weight on this board with you guys which i get but it still gave me some peace of mind and i do trust jano enough that it sold me on it)

so in a last ditch effort before agreeing to buy real increlix from my buddy (for $3000 dollars no less, lol). i bought a few vials of this places igf-1 lr3 and started running it at 40mcg... pumps like i couldn't believe, and i don't know why but my skin had that thinskin (read: dickskin) look to it and i quickly both dropped fat, stayed pumped 24/7, but more importantly i could FEEL my body was partitioning shit and moving it again. my blood sugars literally went from 110 resting in the AM fasted to after 4 weeks on it i was down to 87 resting in the AM. Mind you I have been competing for quite some time and stay around 7-9% BF year round so any changes are especially noticeable for me as opposed to someone not quite as lean or as in tune with their body.

I have a feeling most guys who said they don't like igf-1 lr3 either used cheap bunk shit which most of it is in my experience and just haven't bought the good stuff, or they were not lean enough to really see just how powerful it is - or they already partition things so favorably with low blood glucose naturally so they didn't get as much from it. For me it has been a total game changer. I literally put this up there with tren as my favorite thing of all time. Not trying to schill and i don't work for xpeptides (or rep any company for anything in the fitness realm), but i really think if guys used real quality igf-1 lr3 they'd be believers, too.
(i am on it again right now while finishing up prep 8 weeks out from a big show)

IDK your Hgh dosage or what your BS has been on a historical basis, but the development of overt hyperglycemia, provisos withstanding, suggests occult
DM.

The distinction is important bc DM is a contraindication to supplemental HGH in the medical arena.

To that end I’d suggest you start
a HGH/BS dose/response log

Finally since IGF LR-3 has only been used in animal research, the only way to KNOW, if your running that compound is analytical testing, an amino acid assay to be more specific.

Jim

 

[Marcus]

I've been using and competing for 12 years now, and over the years my blood sugars have gone to shit. I suspect it's partially genetics, partially slin use, partially all the GH, and partially all the carbs i pounded to put on my size originally.

So my biggest challenge the past few years is keeping my blood sugars down without relying on exo insulin. I've had minor success with low dose DNP, berberine/metformin, keto diet (which i utilize most days), but the biggest thing to bring my sugars down and re-sensitize has been IGF-1 LR3. Hands down.

I had tried a few peptide/chem research companies igf-1 lr3 but it always seemed way under dosed or the feeling i got was more so that of GHRH or insulin itself. I finally researched online and read up enough to where i saw 'xpeptides' sold igf-1 lr3 that had tested really well (by jano which i know doesn't hold much weight on this board with you guys which i get but it still gave me some peace of mind and i do trust jano enough that it sold me on it)

so in a last ditch effort before agreeing to buy real increlix from my buddy (for $3000 dollars no less, lol). i bought a few vials of this places igf-1 lr3 and started running it at 40mcg... pumps like i couldn't believe, and i don't know why but my skin had that thinskin (read: dickskin) look to it and i quickly both dropped fat, stayed pumped 24/7, but more importantly i could FEEL my body was partitioning shit and moving it again. my blood sugars literally went from 110 resting in the AM fasted to after 4 weeks on it i was down to 87 resting in the AM. Mind you I have been competing for quite some time and stay around 7-9% BF year round so any changes are especially noticeable for me as opposed to someone not quite as lean or as in tune with their body.

I have a feeling most guys who said they don't like igf-1 lr3 either used cheap bunk shit which most of it is in my experience and just haven't bought the good stuff, or they were not lean enough to really see just how powerful it is - or they already partition things so favorably with low blood glucose naturally so they didn't get as much from it. For me it has been a total game changer. I literally put this up there with tren as my favorite thing of all time. Not trying to schill and i don't work for xpeptides (or rep any company for anything in the fitness realm), but i really think if guys used real quality igf-1 lr3 they'd be believers, too.
(i am on it again right now while finishing up prep 8 weeks out from a big show)

Interesting... honestly never looked into it nor heard of it used to this end.

Do you have blood work on all these various doses and compounds to explain what you’re saying quantitatively or is it just anecdotal in terms of blood sugar, glucose, and/or insulin response

 

[trackstar19]

Their site doesn’t work

I don't think he has an official site, I always just used his email and he has a forum page on another board with his price list/etc. I didn't want to link all that since I don't know the rules and am not trying to be a schill or cross boundaries and i don't have any affiliation just thought i'd post my experience and thoughts on how most "igf-1 lr3" sold is shit/not as labeled IMO and that is why so many claim it is ineffective.

how much gh? and does it lower blood sugar on higher gh doses. Also I heard not to mix it with Bac water that acetic water is better. 50 mc im seems to work amazing for me, but I am more interested in the other benefit you mentioned thanks

I use it for this reason since my BG really has been garbage, i wouldn't necessarily say it's the best way to use it (it's expensive), but I run anywhere from 3.3iu - 5iu a day of GH. It lowers my BG on any dose enough to where I am happy to pay the premium price for it. I heard the acetic water thing, too, but a few people whom i trust as knowledge experts have refuted that it's okay to use BA with it. Supposedly more important that the igf-1 is made with a disulfide bond (or i think that's what they stated?) which makes it more bioavailable or something else in the body. I can't remember exact specifics, jano actually referenced it.

IDK your Hgh dosage or what your BS has been on a historical basis, but the development of overt hyperglycemia, provisos withstanding, suggests occult
DM.

The distinction is important bc DM is a contraindication to supplemental HGH in the medical arena.

To that end I’d suggest you start
a HGH/BS dose/response log

Finally since IGF LR-3 has only been used in animal research, the only way to KNOW, if your running that compound is analytical testing, an amino acid assay to be more specific.

Jim

Hey Dr. Jim,

I value your input. So i've been tracking my blood sugars over the years both fasted, after meals, etc. (on gh, off gh, on dnp, off dnp, etc.) for about 3-4 years now. My resting BG has always been borderline type 2 and has seemingly gotten worse. I can stop GH for months, run berberine, cut carbs to a minimum or even keto ... and i might get my fasted BG to 90-100 ... then as soon as i incorporate carbs and/or gh, etc. BOOM. fasted BG is back in the 110-120 range and after i eat carbs it stays elevated for hours on end. I suspect I may actually be type 2 at this point but i am trying to best find a way to fight it whilst still competing and not 100% turning to exo insulin. (i do use humalog 1-2x a week pre workout)

This igf-1 lr3 actually was tested by jano and was one of the big reasons i felt comfortable giving it a try. it came back at like 99% purity or so and had a disulfide bond or something in it that jano noted makes it more bio available or something in the body (don't quote me on that - but it was a good thing). I know you guys aren't super keen on jano on this board and i admit that questionable GH package fiasco has me a bit hesitant to overly trust him but he does seem to know his shit and has proven he can test things accurately.

OTE="Marcus, post: 2255922, member: 68076"]Interesting... honestly never looked into it nor heard of it used to this end.

Do you have blood work on all these various doses and compounds to explain what you’re saying quantitatively or is it just anecdotal in terms of blood sugar, glucose, and/or insulin response[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately the blood work i have done didn't really have the things you'd want to test for to really help with my claims (like the a1c or whatever the longer term blood sugar testing is). I can say i have kept all things the same in my drug regime and taken out one thing at a time and saw what it did for fasted BG/etc. and then re-included it, etc. so in that sense i feel confident in what i am stating. And i have been competing and experimenting and doing this for quite a few years and being very in tune with my body i feel pretty confident with what i am saying.

I am by no means suggesting it be an alternative method to necessarily assist with blood sugar sensitivity, simply because it is pretty expensive and not quite cost efficient compared to some other methods (metformin, etc.). BUT, for me, it has been a game changer and the difference when my diet and all other things are the same is night and day when i have it in or not. Being single digit bf% year round it is easy to see changes others might not be able to - and it is night and day when i have it in.

 

[Getmusa]

I used some good IGF-LR3 bio-peptide and I got hypo the two times I tried a low dose. It made me super sick so I’m surprised you didn’t go hypo maybe I need to take a different method? Or I’m not reacting well to the compound? Good thing is GH likes me but my last BC like yours was around 100 suspect the GH and slight slin use.

 

[Yosyrj]

I use igf-lr3, I buy it in 100 mcg per vial, so 1 kit is only 1 mg at $120
How much do you pay?
My pumps are unbelievable if I do pre work out
How much do you pay for 1 mg $
Real IGF-lr3 is almost same price than 100 units of hgh from my source, hgh is just a little more
But I see many peptides sources selling 1 mg vial per $60 $70 and even some Chinese selling 1 kit of 1 mg fir less then $200
That has to be fake

 

[Getmusa]

This is just an example of the brand not an endorsement or shilling just showing you also I think I paid like $50 I only got a couple vials but it does not agree with me.

PT 141(bremelanotide) Bio-Peptide 10mg - UK Steroids Shop: Buy Anabolic Steroids in UK - for Sale Online UK

 

[Dr JIM]

This is just an example of the brand not an endorsement or shilling just showing you also I think I paid like $50 I only got a couple vials but it does not agree with me.

PT 141(bremelanotide) Bio-Peptide 10mg - UK Steroids Shop: Buy Anabolic Steroids in UK - for Sale Online UK

Guys there’s a huge problem formulating any cause and effect relationship to ANY PEP unless the
substance being used is analysed and proven to be what’s on the vial.

And no where is this more relevant than in research ONLY
PEPs such as LR-3.

Jim

 

[Getmusa]

I think too at this point it’s like trying to take aspirin (IGF-lr3) compared to hydrocodone (GH) maybe a little extreme but you get it. From everything I have read and seen IGF-lr3 is a safer option with less to no sides than actual GH but at the same time I think your spinning your wheels for a nominal results especially when you need to take GH for so long 6 months or longer to really see its effects I dont see IGF being a value option here. Also, I believe yes IGF levels need to be increased but GH seems to have a more synergistic results affecting other areas that IGF-lr3 can not.

 

[Dr JIM]

IDK why so many believe PEP forum “experiences” when next to NONE of these products have undergone analytical Q-Q testing, with the results posted on an open forum such as Meso.

Heck knowing the history of supplements in general I’d be shocked if more than TEN PERCENT of research PEPs on the Web today are little more than precipitants in the form of excipients, Ph modifiers, surfactants etc with little to NO “active ingredient”.

So what is most likely the case a bunch of gullible fellas falling prey to profiteers.

And that’s a shame bc there are many other ways to acheive results wo the being taken advantage of by dirtballs

Finally you might want to investigate the history of HGH 192 before pinning a foreign protein such as IGF-lr3 which is intended for use in a Petri dish

Jim

 

[lilhawk]

Everyone has their own opinion, but in my experience with GH and IGF you either spend the extra $ and buy pharm grade, or don’t bother with anything.