Titanium Gear Industries (domestic source)

My raws are on that same cruise. Pissing me off. I wanted to have a shit ton of new products to drop for you guys and instead it was 3. Lame.
I have something in the mail (not AAS or anything) and it's supposed to be coming from New York and it's in fucking CALIFORNIA right now. Lmao... Other side of the damn country.
 
Really? how small are UGLs? when I looked into brewing for a local group I was looking to spend 3-5k just in raws I think when I maths it out I was getting 250g popular stuff. I spent less than 1K in lab equipment and that included sealings off of a clean room with HEPA filtrations, suits, boots, gloves, steam and heat autoclaves, mag mixer, beakers, adjustable pipette and so on.

It all fell apart when the a local supplier had reds flags that he'd might be infiltrated by law so I called it all off. Still have the lab setup to brew for myself incase I find a trust worthy raw source.

Point is, I wouldn't call 10-20K in capital a large investments. Guess I thought Yous all were doing much better for yourselfs and selling much higher volume.
Sounds like you have all you need. Why not just start your own and see how much money you can make? I’m sure that 3-5k is including all the testing for your raws? All the store credit for people testing finished product? All the store credits for bloods posted? And don’t forget the promos you’ll run just to get your customers rolling in hopefully?

What if you brew 50 vials of each compound but only sell out of 2 or 3 of them and have to order more raws but don’t have enough capital because your sitting on stock that’s basically worthless until you have it sold? All the filters you have to buy. What if you get a bad batch of caps and stoppers and have to re order meanwhile losing customers because of it?

What if you fuck up accidentally a batch of tren or mast and have to trash it? There’s a lot to running a business weather it’s a legit one or not. It’s not just buy what you need and open a store front and the sales poor in. Unless your just buying and re selling it’s not that cut and dry.
 
I don't know any ugl with the capitol you speak of. Even buying from china (which i wont) youre still looking at 20 to 25k for a kg of 10 basic compounds. Tren and mast...smfh.

If your read the thread you will see i brew 1L at a time. Slowly.

Edit: totally want a cult someday.

You may very well end up with one if your stuff starts getting back good testing numbers and you get a couple more things on that menu. Just dont go private or start a special club to avoid scrutiny and cut corners (not saying all private labs do). The shit talk and ball busting is to keep sources honest. All most of us are looking for is a product that is what the source claims, and reasonable t/a.
 
Nandrolone cyp is not very popular and the raws cost a little more. Found 2 sources that sells/sold it but they are questionable. Just wanted to find something between npp and deca..Wanted to try a test c, nan c and possibly add some bold c..
 
You may very well end up with one if your stuff starts getting back good testing numbers and you get a couple more things on that menu. Just dont go private or start a special club to avoid scrutiny and cut corners (not saying all private labs do). The shit talk and ball busting is to keep sources honest. All most of us are looking for is a product that is what the source claims, and reasonable t/a.
If i did go private it would be a very long time from now. Like in years, many years. With raws tested dialing in a recipe is cake. And t/a WAS great until recently. The fires, holidays and other BS has made some wait 7+ days. But i don't handle the USPS...just the TGI part.
 
Sounds like you have all you need. Why not just start your own and see how much money you can make? I’m sure that 3-5k is including all the testing for your raws? All the store credit for people testing finished product? All the store credits for bloods posted? And don’t forget the promos you’ll run just to get your customers rolling in hopefully?

What if you brew 50 vials of each compound but only sell out of 2 or 3 of them and have to order more raws but don’t have enough capital because your sitting on stock that’s basically worthless until you have it sold? All the filters you have to buy. What if you get a bad batch of caps and stoppers and have to re order meanwhile losing customers because of it?

What if you fuck up accidentally a batch of tren or mast and have to trash it? There’s a lot to running a business weather it’s a legit one or not. It’s not just buy what you need and open a store front and the sales poor in. Unless your just buying and re selling it’s not that cut and dry.


Whys not start by own? I am very paticular bout who I do business with in the world. Now I have to start trustings random people for illegal raw material? That is the problems. That and the amount you can make is completely unclear as labs don't usually publish their sales, The above post is the first time I've ever seen anyone ever post how much they sales. If I knew what the actual potential is then I could make a decisions, but I make ok moneys now.

Could I turn my lab into something commercial, sures I can. A lots of thing are common sense in the business world including the supply chain. Everything is legal to purchase except the raws, and through my current business dealings I can accumulate everything needed to run a good lab from bottles, caps, oil, etc.Not to say I skims off of top but I have an idea of who can provide what with no questions or without dealing with monetary transactions face to face.

To answer specificially

I’m sure that 3-5k is including all the testing for your raws?

There are many ways to test raw and most use melt point and trust their supplier. A lab quality melt point test isn't hard to come by and if I felt I were to be an indepth seller I would get a HPLC, again they can be had for much less than the 20k everyone talk about.

All the store credits for bloods posted? And don’t forget the promos you’ll run just to get your customers rolling in hopefully?
I have ideas for this as well, non-problem

What if you brew 50 vials of each compound but only sell out of 2 or 3 of them and have to order more raws but don’t have enough capital because your sitting on stock that’s basically worthless until you have it sold?
then order more raws again, don'ts get into business without plenty of capital to get going and be prepared to operate at negatives for a while. When I did original maths I planned 250g which would do 60-100 vials depends on dosage. After initial 250g tests and brews good then order more, depending on timeline of business start.

All the filters you have to buy. What if you get a bad batch of caps and stoppers and have to re order meanwhile losing customers because of it?
Yes, buys filters, lots and lots of filters. Assume you brew 100g each product thats only .5L or so. That not a lot when talking commercial application Plenty of option to run 1L across 15 products that's 15 filters and 15 more to do second batch while new order comes in and 15 more for case one breaks or order don'ts come in. that's $500 in filters assuming you bottle top but that's a rolling 500USD as one is used for revenue on is back up and one should be used while new order arrives.

Same with Vials, caps, stoppers, and stuffs, you have a rolling stockpile that so that if something happens you have enough to wait on new order. the three should cost less than .50 dollars and $500-1000 cost, but again, rolling stock so really only 1/3 of the monies is actually tied up, the 2/3 is either revenue or on order.

What if you fuck up accidentally a batch of tren or mast and have to trash it?

Stepa one. Don't fucks up. But if youd do then that's cost of business but as you should always have stock or something on order then you brew what you have in stock raw, or if that was your stock you fucks then you should have alreadi had some on order and you brew as soon as it comes in. Of course the more stock you have the less you out of stock brew but more money tied up in stock.

As the person mentioned above they aren't selling a lot. but margins are super high. Cost to make vial is around 2-4USD but sell for 25-40USD. The first batch sold should more then cover the cost to hold additional stock to avoid out of stocks. Again it sucks to have money tied up but that is costs of business, doesn't matter if legal or UGL.
 
Nandrolone cyp is not very popular and the raws cost a little more. Found 2 sources that sells/sold it but they are questionable. Just wanted to find something between npp and deca..Wanted to try a test c, nan c and possibly add some bold c..
Nan cyp had brutal pip. Or is that bold cyp?
 
I don't know any ugl with the capitol you speak of. Even buying from china (which i wont) youre still looking at 20 to 25k for a kg of 10 basic compounds. Tren and mast...smfh.

If your read the thread you will see i brew 1L at a time. Slowly.

Edit: totally want a cult someday.
So this cult you speak of starting... I’m interested.. Do I have to get jumped in or shave my head and wear robes or what’s up??
 
Whys not start by own? I am very paticular bout who I do business with in the world. Now I have to start trustings random people for illegal raw material? That is the problems. That and the amount you can make is completely unclear as labs don't usually publish their sales, The above post is the first time I've ever seen anyone ever post how much they sales. If I knew what the actual potential is then I could make a decisions, but I make ok moneys now.

Could I turn my lab into something commercial, sures I can. A lots of thing are common sense in the business world including the supply chain. Everything is legal to purchase except the raws, and through my current business dealings I can accumulate everything needed to run a good lab from bottles, caps, oil, etc.Not to say I skims off of top but I have an idea of who can provide what with no questions or without dealing with monetary transactions face to face.

To answer specificially



There are many ways to test raw and most use melt point and trust their supplier. A lab quality melt point test isn't hard to come by and if I felt I were to be an indepth seller I would get a HPLC, again they can be had for much less than the 20k everyone talk about.

I have ideas for this as well, non-problem

then order more raws again, don'ts get into business without plenty of capital to get going and be prepared to operate at negatives for a while. When I did original maths I planned 250g which would do 60-100 vials depends on dosage. After initial 250g tests and brews good then order more, depending on timeline of business start.

Yes, buys filters, lots and lots of filters. Assume you brew 100g each product thats only .5L or so. That not a lot when talking commercial application Plenty of option to run 1L across 15 products that's 15 filters and 15 more to do second batch while new order comes in and 15 more for case one breaks or order don'ts come in. that's $500 in filters assuming you bottle top but that's a rolling 500USD as one is used for revenue on is back up and one should be used while new order arrives.

Same with Vials, caps, stoppers, and stuffs, you have a rolling stockpile that so that if something happens you have enough to wait on new order. the three should cost less than .50 dollars and $500-1000 cost, but again, rolling stock so really only 1/3 of the monies is actually tied up, the 2/3 is either revenue or on order.



Stepa one. Don't fucks up. But if youd do then that's cost of business but as you should always have stock or something on order then you brew what you have in stock raw, or if that was your stock you fucks then you should have alreadi had some on order and you brew as soon as it comes in. Of course the more stock you have the less you out of stock brew but more money tied up in stock.

As the person mentioned above they aren't selling a lot. but margins are super high. Cost to make vial is around 2-4USD but sell for 25-40USD. The first batch sold should more then cover the cost to hold additional stock to avoid out of stocks. Again it sucks to have money tied up but that is costs of business, doesn't matter if legal or UGL.

Your theory on paper is like a 2nd LT telling a staff sergeant in the field how things are done.

So this cult you speak of starting... I’m interested.. Do I have to get jumped in or shave my head and wear robes or what’s up??

Shaved heads and robes all day sounds awesome.
 

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