Adding mast to a bulking cycle

[Test_Subject]

I was thinking 400 test, 400 tren, 400 mast.

Or that. I don't use tren anymore, hence the high mast, but that looks solid.

 

[Worf]

Some like Mast for the aggression

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Just keep enough mast fir e2 sides and tren sides mast is an aniclinary. I would do 50-100 eod. Increase only the last weeks that y want to be shredded . Dont high dosage mast on cycle tends to get you flat and tends to gain a little bit slower but dryer if on high dosage

 

[Morefyah]

Just keep enough mast fir e2 sides and tren sides mast is an aniclinary. I would do 50-100 eod. Increase only the last weeks that y want to be shredded . Dont high dosage mast on cycle tends to get you flat and tends to gain a little bit slower but dryer if on high dosage

So the proviron guy thinks Masteron is only a ancillary and for E2. Dude please stop talking!

 

[AlwaysHungry]

So the proviron guy thinks Masteron is only a ancillary and for E2. Dude please stop talking!

Lol grandpa keep brew your stuff you obviously dont k kw what y talking about

 

[Mayne]

We have had that discussion long ago and reached the conclusion that a stack of testosterone/nor-19/dht would be optimal in either way

 

[Jankauskas]

We have had that discussion long ago and reached the conclusion that a stack of testosterone/nor-19/dht would be optimal in either way

So it is worth running mast with in the stack after all is what you are saying. I would run primo but I’m not going to pay 600 dollars for the primo alone.

 

[Mayne]

So it is worth running mast with in the stack after all is what you are saying. I would run primo but I’m not going to pay 600 dollars for the primo alone.

If I were not afraid of going bald I would run masteron with anything I think it is just very synergistic given that people usually run only testosterone and nor-19 and overlooked in regard to bulking

 

[Wunderpus]

Would Masteron be a good addition to a bulking cycle? I heard that it has a property that lowers sbgh, and also increases strength and reduces bloat.

How pronounced would the strength increase be?

The hypothesis would be a test, deca, mast cycle.

P.s.- Never used mast.

Primo would be a better choice if you're looking to add a DHT.

 

[Jankauskas]

If I were not afraid of going bald I would run masteron with anything I think it is just very synergistic given that people usually run only testosterone and nor-19 and overlooked in regard to bulking

If you run moderate/high test and deca in that same stack I think the dht would balance out with the excess estrogen and not provoke hairloss.

Once I abused Arimidex and my hair started falling out like crazy, after I stopped it it slowly recovered. I think that if there is a balance between estrogen and dht nothing will happen to your hair.

 

[Jankauskas]

Primo would be a better choice if you're looking to add a DHT.

I would run primo if not for the cost. What dosage would you recommend for a first primo run?

 

[Mayne]

If you run moderate/high test and deca in that same stack I think the dht would balance out with the excess estrogen and not provoke hairloss.

Once I abused Arimidex and my hair started falling out like crazy, after I stopped it it slowly recovered. I think that if there is a balance between estrogen and dht nothing will happen to your hair.

I may have to read on that would be interesting if you are right man

 

[Wunderpus]

I would run primo if not for the cost. What dosage would you recommend for a first primo run?

Way too many other variables to give a blanket suggestion, but overall 500mg's/week would be a good starting point.

 

[Jankauskas]

If you run moderate/high test and deca in that same stack I think the dht would balance out with the excess estrogen and not provoke hairloss.

Once I abused Arimidex and my hair started falling out like crazy, after I stopped it it slowly recovered. I think that if there is a balance between estrogen and dht nothing will happen to your hair.

I may have to read on that would be interesting if you are right man

This is my personal anecdote. Anastrozol lowers estrogen, and we know that the lower the estrogen is the more prominent dht is going to be. When I crashed my e2, I started losing hair. I have used the same coumpounds pretty much in 3 other cycles at pretty much the same dosage (test, tren and dbol) and I never lost a strand of hair. I had also never used anastrozol before, but since I had developed a bit of gyno previously without even noticing, I decided to run it on that partícular blast to prevent it from further developing, so it was the only thing that I did differently from all the other times before. It had to be the culprit.

If estrogen is high nothing happens to my hair, but if it’s crashed my hair gets destroyed, that can only mean that there has to be a balance between these 2 hormones in order to prevent the hairloss. At least that’s my take on what happened.

So if you are running aromatizing coumpounds with any dht I believe there won’t be a problem, however if you are running, say low test, tren, mast and var, there is reason to be careful.

Just my experience.

 

[TheH0517]

This is my personal anecdote. Anastrozol lowers estrogen, and we know that the lower the estrogen is the more prominent dht is going to be. When I crashed my e2, I started losing hair. I have used the same coumpounds pretty much in 3 other cycles at pretty much the same dosage (test, tren and dbol) and I never lost a strand of hair. I had also never used anastrozol before, but since I had developed a bit of gyno previously without even noticing, I decided to run it on that partícular blast to prevent it from further developing, so it was the only thing that I did differently from all the other times before. It had to be the culprit.

If estrogen is high nothing happens to my hair, but if it’s crashed my hair gets destroyed, that can only mean that there has to be a balance between these 2 hormones in order to prevent the hairloss. At least that’s my take on what happened.

So if you are running aromatizing coumpounds with any dht I believe there won’t be a problem, however if you are running, say low test, tren, mast and var, there is reason to be careful.

Just my experience.

Do you know the cause of balding...?

 

[Jankauskas]

Do you know the cause of balding...?

Hair follicles that are sensitive to DHT, DHT binds to them and basically suffocates them, denying them nutrients. The hair follicles shrink, the hair gets weaker and falls off.

 

[TheH0517]

Hair follicles that are sensitive to DHT, DHT binds to them and basically suffocates them, denying them nutrients. The hair follicles shrink, the hair gets weaker and falls off.

Oh ok. I thought you were saying low E caused it lol. Misunderstanding!

Edit:
So why would using a DHT prevent hair loss? I guess that’s where the confusion came from.

 

[Jankauskas]

Oh ok. I thought you were saying low E caused it lol. Misunderstanding!

Edit:
So why would using a DHT prevent hair loss? I guess that’s where the confusion came from.

You got this all wrong, I’m indeed saying that I believe that low e causes hairloss, because the less estrogen you have, the more dht is gonna be prominent. Dht is known to lower estrogen, steroids like Masteron were used as AIs because of that. And the lower estrogen gets the more dht is going to proliferate, because dht coumpounds are usually associated with shbg, and this enhances the potency of testosterone itself so to speak.

 

[TheH0517]

You got this all wrong, I’m indeed saying that I believe that low e causes hairloss, because the less estrogen you have, the more dht is gonna be prominent. Dht is known to lower estrogen, steroids like Masteron were used as AIs because of that. And the lower estrogen gets the more dht is going to proliferate, because dht coumpounds are usually associated with shbg, and this enhances the potency of testosterone itself so to speak.

And if I remember, SHBG is bound Test, where DHT lowers SHBG, therefore raising free Test levels.

So you’re saying there’s a relationship between E2 and SHBG levels? And do you mean low E2 raises SHBG and the body produces more DHT to balance things out?

 

[Jankauskas]

And if I remember, SHBG is bound Test, where DHT lowers SHBG, therefore raising free Test levels.

So you’re saying there’s a relationship between E2 and SHBG levels? And do you mean low E2 raises SHBG and the body produces more DHT to balance things out?

I believe that there is an interaction between e2 and dht, they are like opposites and need to be in balance. That is the conclusion that I got from my experience.

Excess dht inhibits estrogen, that is something we know to be true, and the reverse might happen aswell, but this is conjecture from my part.