Adding mast to a bulking cycle

[bigpoppachump]

Some like Mast for the aggression

Last year I tried running a cycle of Test E: 500mg, Mast E: 400mg, NPP: 450mg, and by the 5th week I was a mess. My fuse was a millimeter long and I was being a royal dick towards everyone who came in contact with me. It was my first time running NPP and Mast so I wasn't sure which compound caused the aggression so I cut the cycle off at week 6 or 7 because I got tired of feeling like shit cause of how I was acting towards the people I love.

I'm now on week 6 of a Test C: 600mg and NPP: 500mg a week cycle and all is well with no added aggression. So now I know it was the mast and the only problem is what to do with it since I don't get along well with it.

 

[TheH0517]

I believe that there is an interaction between e2 and dht, they are like opposites and need to be in balance. That is the conclusion that I got from my experience.

Excess dht inhibits estrogen, that is something we know to be true, and the reverse might happen aswell, but this is conjecture from my part.

I gotcha. It sparked my interest because my hair has been thinning since running mast over the summer and nobody in my family is bald so I feel I can hopefully stop the shedding.

 

[Jankauskas]

I gotcha. It sparked my interest because my hair has been thinning since running mast over the summer and nobody in my family is bald so I feel I can hopefully stop the shedding.

I’d drop it if I were you, your hair will come back in time. Maybe you could run test a bit higher for the aromatization next time and see if the mast still makes you shed.

 

[Morefyah]

I’d drop it if I were you, your hair will come back in time. Maybe you could run test a bit higher for the aromatization next time and see if the mast still makes you shed.

You guys can’t battle the genetics. Shedding is normal on cycle but loosing all of your hair isn’t. I run high Masteron with almost every cycle and still have a full head of hair at 46. It’s grey but it’s not receding.

 

[Jankauskas]

You guys can’t battle the genetics. Shedding is normal on cycle but loosing all of your hair isn’t. I run high Masteron with almost every cycle and still have a full head of hair at 46. It’s grey but it’s not receding.

You are right. It all comes down to genetics. I have a full head of hair, but experienced some thinning when abusing adex. It’s getting better now, but if you taken high dose mast and your hair didn’t give you are one of the lucky ones.

 

[TheH0517]

I’d drop it if I were you, your hair will come back in time. Maybe you could run test a bit higher for the aromatization next time and see if the mast still makes you shed.

Ya I looked great on it with tren but the cycle was VERY DHT heavy. High mast, Var starter and Winny finisher. I’ve been off that about 4 months and I’m on a high test, Deca, EQ cycle with some growth so hopefully the hair will thicken.

Looking to get RU58841 and try it out

 

[Jankauskas]

Ya I looked great on it with tren but the cycle was VERY DHT heavy. High mast, Var starter and Winny finisher. I’ve been off that about 4 months and I’m on a high test, Deca, EQ cycle with some growth so hopefully the hair will thicken.

Looking to get RU58841 and try it out

Shit man that cycle was asking for it, Jesus... Maybe if you used less dht coumpounds you could get away with it without shedding. Did you use test?

Gonna run about the same bulking cycle as you in like a month.

Ru I heard mixed reviews, I use rogaine 5% and it definitely helped me.

 

[TheH0517]

You guys can’t battle the genetics. Shedding is normal on cycle but loosing all of your hair isn’t. I run high Masteron with almost every cycle and still have a full head of hair at 46. It’s grey but it’s not receding.

It’s still “full”, just seems thinner but I could even been over-analyzing. And nobody on either side of my family went bald so odds are on my side hopefully

 

[TheH0517]

Shit man that cycle was asking for it, Jesus... Maybe if you used less dht coumpounds you could get away with it without shedding. Did you use test?

Gonna run about the same bulking cycle as you in like a month.

Ru I heard mixed reviews, I use rogaine 5% and it definitely helped me.

Ya I know, I learned that lesson. I was running test at 300 and crashed my E2 which is another reason I was asking your take on AI and hair loss. I know E2 is important for bone, and I THINK, hair/nail density. Could be wrong.

I read with RU, you have to buy the raws and mix a week at a time because it degrades VERY quick when put into solution. So the pre-mixed solutions are usually useless.

I’m 2.5 weeks in a today is probably the first day I’ve noticed that beautifully full look and even some endurance at the gym. I’m excited for the results.

 

[Jankauskas]

Ya I know, I learned that lesson. I was running test at 300 and crashed my E2 which is another reason I was asking your take on AI and hair loss. I know E2 is important for bone, and I THINK, hair/nail density. Could be wrong.

I read with RU, you have to buy the raws and mix a week at a time because it degrades VERY quick when put into solution. So the pre-mixed solutions are usually useless.

I’m 2.5 weeks in a today is probably the first day I’ve noticed that beautifully full look and even some endurance at the gym. I’m excited for the results.

If you have to go through all that trouble for the RU than fuck it, it’s not for me.

Can’t wait to get back on blast, I have been off for about 4 weeks, it’s a fucking addiction man, feels like forever... But I’m doing well in the gym regardless. Should do some bloods next week.

 

[TheH0517]

If you have to go through all that trouble for the RU than fuck it, it’s not for me.

Can’t wait to get back on blast, I have been off for about 4 weeks, it’s a fucking addiction man, feels like forever... But I’m doing well in the gym regardless. Should do some bloods next week.

Ya, I was ready for a break after the summer cut. I was trying to drop weight and went overboard. Injuries and pains and killed my metabolism. So I was healing and getting my body back in line. I’m feeling great with this Deca and I think I may have felt the first touch of EQ endurance (first run with EQ). This is one of those feel amazing cycles. I’ll run some bloods in the next couple week to see where I’m at.

Hang in there and get yourself prepared so you can make the best of it!

 

[Worf]

If you run moderate/high test and deca in that same stack I think the dht would balance out with the excess estrogen and not provoke hairloss.

Once I abused Arimidex and my hair started falling out like crazy, after I stopped it it slowly recovered. I think that if there is a balance between estrogen and dht nothing will happen to your hair.

Interesting theory

 

[Worf]

Last year I tried running a cycle of Test E: 500mg, Mast E: 400mg, NPP: 450mg, and by the 5th week I was a mess. My fuse was a millimeter long and I was being a royal dick towards everyone who came in contact with me. It was my first time running NPP and Mast so I wasn't sure which compound caused the aggression so I cut the cycle off at week 6 or 7 because I got tired of feeling like shit cause of how I was acting towards the people I love.

I'm now on week 6 of a Test C: 600mg and NPP: 500mg a week cycle and all is well with no added aggression. So now I know it was the mast and the only problem is what to do with it since I don't get along well with it.

Yep
I actually experienced a little aggression from npp but not bad. Just enough for the gym

 

[Jankauskas]

We have had that discussion long ago and reached the conclusion that a stack of testosterone/nor-19/dht would be optimal in either way

Do you remember the name of that particular thread?

 

[Mayne]

Do you remember the name of that particular thread?

I will look around but it was years ago back when huckingfuge was around

 

[weighted chinup]

I have used low test and moderate mast many times actually for bulking purposes, the reason being it's mild and I tend to feel very good on it, and I enjoy the cosmetic effects.

You'd have to think that something like 300mg test, 500mg mast p is enough anabolics in a week to facilitate positive changes in body composition and drive progress in the gym, take into account the fact you won't feel like shit while on it, it's actually a good option for people who are sensitive to the negative effects of AAS during a bulk.

I would say if your goal for increasing scale weight is mild then it's suitable (think 5lb gain in keepable scale weight at a similar or slightly better body composition than you started). If the goal is to explode in scale weight, look elsewhere imo.

If finances permit, primo might be better worth investigating for this purpose.

 

[Jankauskas]

I have used low test and moderate mast many times actually for bulking purposes, the reason being it's mild and I tend to feel very good on it, and I enjoy the cosmetic effects.

You'd have to think that something like 300mg test, 500mg mast p is enough anabolics in a week to facilitate positive changes in body composition and drive progress in the gym, take into account the fact you won't feel like shit while on it, it's actually a good option for people who are sensitive to the negative effects of AAS during a bulk.

I would say if your goal for increasing scale weight is mild then it's suitable (think 5lb gain in keepable scale weight at a similar or slightly better body composition than you started). If the goal is to explode in scale weight, look elsewhere imo.

If finances permit, primo might be better worth investigating for this purpose.

I don’t really get sides from gear, I have ran up to 800 mg of tren e and got 0 sides, I feel great, much better than when I’m off, só side effects are no problem for me.

Primo however is a really big problem for me because of its price.

 

[weighted chinup]

I don’t really get sides from gear, I have ran up to 800 mg of tren e and got 0 sides, I feel great, much better than when I’m off, só side effects are no problem for me.

Primo however is a really big problem for me because of its price.

I haven't used primo, unfortunately. I would say if there is no particular reason to run mast for a bulking phase (keeping things as mild as possible for example) there are more effective options for increasing scale weight.

Masteron is by far my favorite compound and I think it has a lot of uses, but if minimizing side effects isn't the primary one, then there are certainly more effective and cheaper options, especially for growth.

 

[Jankauskas]

I haven't used primo, unfortunately. I would say if there is no particular reason to run mast for a bulking phase (keeping things as mild as possible for example) there are more effective options for increasing scale weight.

Masteron is by far my favorite compound and I think it has a lot of uses, but if minimizing side effects isn't the primary one, then there are certainly more effective and cheaper options, especially for growth.

I’m going to run test, deca and eq for this next blast, with some orals and tren ace sprinkled here and there to kickstart and break plateaus as needed.

 

[Robfromga]

Masteron or proviron is a must add to any cycle in my opinion . You will not see the physical effects of mast until you're down to 10%ish, however the way it binds and frees up test is HUGE. It's a bang for your buck compound with test, run little less test and have more free test? Plus the positive sexual effects . And the mood enhancement....

As far as FOR a bulk, ehh.... I'm on a npp/test bulk now, with MAST. It's not going to help with the actual bulk, but all those other positives. I won't run a cycle without masteron or proviron.