Another cloudy tren thread

[Evom1]

Hey guys so I tried to make some tren and took a different approach, still turned out cloudy.

I mixed the powder with the bb and ba, let it sit for about 24hrs and swirled it occasionally. It was totally clear with a strong tren color to it. Opened a bottle of mct oil and added the amount I needed to it.... And it immediately went cloudy. Stirred it and let it sit over night....Still cloudy

 

[Eman]

I've found that some MCT brands can make for a cloudy product. Warming it up and running through the filter seems to help.

 

[Thegreek]

@Evom1 check your PM. I got you on this.

 

[Holidaypay]

Ur gna need 3 chickens a machete an a pack of candles but we can fix this bro @Evom1

 

[Evom1]

Ur gna need 3 chickens a machete an a pack of candles but we can fix this bro @Evom1

Ok give me like an hour to get the candles!

 

[TideGear]

@Evom1 check your PM. I got you on this.

Aww c'mon Greek, share with the class

 

[TideGear]

I've found that some MCT brands can make for a cloudy product. Warming it up and running through the filter seems to help.

Not sure if this helps but I use Now brand MCT and have never had cloudy tren. I also put everything in the beaker at the same time so the solution doesn't undergo any sudden temp changes. Good luck

 

[Holidaypay]

I have had shitty luck with cloudy tren try heating on low for a while an filter again I am starting to think that the raw powder absorb moisture in the air leading to the cloudiness that's the only thing I can think of after all the variables I have tried.New oils new solvents etc

 

[Evom1]

Not sure if this helps but I use Now brand MCT and have never had cloudy tren. I also put everything in the beaker at the same time so the solution doesn't undergo any sudden temp changes. Good luck

I have had shitty luck with cloudy tren try heating on low for a while an filter again I am starting to think that the raw powder absorb moisture in the air leading to the cloudiness that's the only thing I can think of after all the variables I have tried.New oils new solvents etc

Brand new bottle of NOW mct actually

The raws mixed with ba and bb were totally clear, super cloudy with mct

 

[grey]

I mixed the powder with the bb and ba, let it sit for about 24hrs and swirled it occasionally.

This part has me curious regarding both the method used for letting it sit (in what state etc) and more critically the reasoning for doing so?

The BA (especially) and BB are both volatiles... what would the point of the 24 hour wait be?

Much like @Holidaypay theorized, my guess would be that the wait introduced moisture to the mix.

 

[Evom1]

This part has me curious regarding both the method used for letting it sit (in what state etc) and more critically the reasoning for doing so?

The BA (especially) and BB are both volatiles... what would the point of the 24 hour wait be?

Much like @Holidaypay theorized, my guess would be that the wait introduced moisture to the mix.

There was a member who suggested it on here a while back. I figured I'd give it a shot. I can't remember who it was, think he had a mafia looking guy as his Pic.

The beaker was covered the entire time. Last time I tried to make tren from this batch I mixed everything at once, same result. That's why I figured I'd give it a shot this way

 

[Thegreek]

It’s not moisture.

 

[grey]

It’s not moisture.

What is it? Honestly curious here.

Last time I tried to make tren from this batch I mixed everything at once, same result.

Interesting that it came out cloudy for both then.

 

[rutman]

How were the raws stored? Moisture somehow got into the raws is my guess. I don’t what else it could be. I’ve had cloudy tren before and it pinned fine. Nobody’s going to want to by it though...

 

[Evom1]

How were the raws stored? Moisture somehow got into the raws is my guess. I don’t what else it could be. I’ve had cloudy tren before and it pinned fine. Nobody’s going to want to by it though...

I brewed the first half right when I got them from ppl and had this issue, they've been kept triple bagged in a storage bin for a few months before trying it again.
What I don't get is why was it fine until I added oil?
Last brew was gso, this one was mct. Same thing

 

[Thegreek]

@Evom1 did you read my pm.

 

[ickyrica]

@Evom1 did you read my pm.

God dam man, you're killing me (and some other guys too!!)

 

[Thegreek]

@ickyrica only because you asked buddy. I can’t tell you how I know but here’s the deal. All compounds start out as there base form. The ester is attached after. Sometimes when tren a is made the ester doesn’t completely attach so when you brew tren a and you see that cloudy look that is the tren base that didn’t go into solution. If you heat it it will go into solution but will fall out when it cools. So here are your options.

1. Filter when cool and cloudy. You might be able to remove the undisolved tren base and it should clear up a bit. You could do that a few times but I’m guessing it would be slightly underdosed depending on how many time you filter and how much base you remove.
2. Vial it and reheat before pinning. Just pay attention on how much heat you use. More for just getting a feel on how much and how hot it takes for it to go back into suspension. Also be careful that you don’t pin it if it’s super hot.
3. Pin it cloudy. Heads up though. Since you will have base in the vial there is a good chance you will get some serious tren cough. If you’ve ever pinned tren base or frog juice then you’ll know what I mean.
4. If you also have tren E raws you can add .5 grams Tren E per 100ml of tren a while brewing and that will clear it up.

 

[ickyrica]

Interesting. I wonder if a hint of GU would also clear it up? Obviously we want to avoid things like that, but...

The tren e add on is also interesting

 

[rutman]

@ickyrica only because you asked buddy. I can’t tell you how I know but here’s the deal. All compounds start out as there base form. The ester is attached after. Sometimes when tren a is made the ester doesn’t completely attach so when you brew tren a and you see that cloudy look that is the tren base that didn’t go into solution. If you heat it it will go into solution but will fall out when it cools. So here are your options.

1. Filter when cool and cloudy. You might be able to remove the undisolved tren base and it should clear up a bit. You could do that a few times but I’m guessing it would be slightly underdosed depending on how many time you filter and how much base you remove.
2. Vial it and reheat before pinning. Just pay attention on how much heat you use. More for just getting a feel on how much and how hot it takes for it to go back into suspension. Also be careful that you don’t pin it if it’s super hot.
3. Pin it cloudy. Heads up though. Since you will have base in the vial there is a good chance you will get some serious tren cough. If you’ve ever pinned tren base or frog juice then you’ll know what I mean.
4. If you also have tren E raws you can add .5 grams Tren E per 100ml of tren a while brewing and that will clear it up.

Good info right here that I wasn’t aware of! Thanks for clarifying.