Morefyah
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God damn!! Nice setup dude..
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Murky tren....
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XmadXscientist
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This is exactly what one of my batches of Tren Base looked like. Cloudy and looked like sediment on the bottom. I would heat it up then it went back into soulution for 15-20 minutes and I would pin it. Sometimes I pinned it without heating it back up and it would burn for a solid 10-20 minutes, like make my eyes water type of burn but I felt like such a barbarian and kind of liked it.
I wonder if it’s possible that the ester can detach itself after the fact. A raw dealers sell through is probably pretty fucking quick so if he also brews maybe the issue isn’t as bad to him. Then those raws go out to ugls and they brew it and turn it quick also. Then there are guys like us. We buy more than we need. Make a batch. Looks good. 6 months a year later brew another one. Same recipe but the batch goes to shit. Maybe the tren degrades faster if the process isn’t perfect and separates. Like fixing something with duct tape instead of a bolt. Both can do the same job but one will obviously last longer.
Holidaypay
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I agree I noticed that after 6 months my tren powder turned a darker yellow its in a zip lock bag in a coffee can filled with rice in a dark cool space over time something is deff changing an its prob better to brew all tren at once at least till this issue lately stops I wonder if the chemicals or process they use to make it changed an thats why the last year has Ben rough for tren raws
Holidaypay
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Lol that is some barbaric shit I heated mine an pinned while clear an it never gave me any problems besides coughing but the last like 2 ml I left because the sediment
Not very, just a zip lock bag...
Ture. No, that's why it was so strange, as it was the other half of the same exact raws...! Weird, huh?
What route are you going to go to fix it.
Not sure, yet... I ordered some UGL tren A so I can just get going with my cut... I really wanted to ID what the problem/cause was, before trying to remedy it. Worst case, I'll chuck it. Not worth getting fucked up over like $40 in raws.
My solution to this problem has been to every bit of tren immediately when received
I hear ya. If you do want to try let me know and I’ll help if you need it.
Yeah that’s my solution too. Going to get some Tren A raws eventually and just brew it and be done. I may split the brew though just in case. Do half one day the other half a few days later. Just in case.
Definitely should've done this. I kept it in case I wanted to make a blend, or whatever. My mistake, for sure!
penche
New Member
I notice a lot of folks with this issue have it with MCT carrier. Now from my experience sometimes kinda rare mct will not bind well with Tren Ace. I know this because I would make Finaplix pellets yes the old school ones and it would be murky and a real bitch to filter. If i used GSO it was never an issue. @rutman had the same issue as I if he remembers. Weird shit but talking just sharing. I think your Tren can still be salvaged WP just gotta be persistent. It’s hard for me to let things go to waste lol
The other thread - OP used Tren Enanth and scaled it up a lot more than suggested with and without heat and it never cleared up.
Friend's Tren A brewed on day one formed a murky sludge at the bottom and essentially ruined the 100ml beaker. He got some cloudy stuff out and filtered it. Worked ok for him but who knows what the damn dosage really was - I wasn't about to inject that. Later on it fell out of solution and crashed to cloudy. A separate large batch ruined a large beaker. Shit wouldn't even filter past 20ml through a milipore bottle top. Remaining powerder doesn't appear to be salvageable at this point. This was all 2% BA, 20% BB, 100mg/ml in safflower oil. The other guy got sludge effect from LMC and used GSO as I recall.
All other compounds went into solution easily with same process and inputs. Nothing fancy. Really shouldn't be this hard. Definitely a very bad batch out of a manufacturer that people have been working through since summer. I don't recall ever hearing experiences like this.
Friend's Tren A brewed on day one formed a murky sludge at the bottom and essentially ruined the 100ml beaker. He got some cloudy stuff out and filtered it. Worked ok for him but who knows what the damn dosage really was - I wasn't about to inject that. Later on it fell out of solution and crashed to cloudy. A separate large batch ruined a large beaker. Shit wouldn't even filter past 20ml through a milipore bottle top. Remaining powerder doesn't appear to be salvageable at this point. This was all 2% BA, 20% BB, 100mg/ml in safflower oil. The other guy got sludge effect from LMC and used GSO as I recall.
All other compounds went into solution easily with same process and inputs. Nothing fancy. Really shouldn't be this hard. Definitely a very bad batch out of a manufacturer that people have been working through since summer. I don't recall ever hearing experiences like this.
Yeah I lost about 6 carts of finaplix using mct oil. Stuff wouldn’t filter for nothing... a .45 whatman would totally clog up after pushing 5ml. Finally threw the entire batch in the garbage.
Mixed another batch of finaplix up with GSO, and it was crystal clear. No issues at all.
Now I’ve not had any issues with tren ace raws and mct oil. Or component th when it was around. Mct worked great on both.
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What still gets me about this tren a issue is that my bad raws weren’t that bad for the first brew out of them. There were some swirls in the first batch but I’ve seen it come that way straight from a source. It was when I attempted to brew the second half of the raws, several months later, that it just created a sludgy, murky mixture that wouldn’t even go completely into solution. I used the same ratios as I did the first time. Something happened to the raws while stored and they were sealed up in the little zip lock the whole time
Literally the same thing WP said. I'm in the "It has to have something to do with air and the oxidation process causing issue with the ester." Camp.
I believe I’m right there with you. It may even be a manufacturing flaw that is causing this problem since it seems to be a tricky compound to manufacture.
That’s why I don’t like storing raws for long period of time. Crazy stuff happens a lot of times. I think it’s best to go ahead and make the majority of it up in a large mason jar. It’ll store like that for years and still be good.
