First real cycle

[LBreezey]

Hey guys im looking for reccomendations for my first real cycle. Ive ran sust and hgh for 6 weeks at 350mg/wk. with not much results. Looking for a solid bulk cycle preferably not much fat gain. Current stats are:
Age:20
Height:6'0
Weight:211
Train 6 times a week
Diet: around 4200 cals
Naturally lean with good definition.
Thanks in advance. All advice will be considered heavily.

 

[balco]

Hey guys im looking for reccomendations for my first real cycle. Ive ran sust and hgh for 6 weeks at 350mg/wk. with not much results. Looking for a solid bulk cycle preferably not much fat gain. Current stats are:
Age:20
Height:6'0
Weight:211
Train 6 times a week
Diet: around 4200 cals
Naturally lean with good definition.
Thanks in advance. All advice will be considered heavily.

350mg of sustanon a week isn't very much, especially on a test only cycle.

I would recommend testosterone and deca as your 2nd cycle, at 500mg of deca and 6-800mg of test per week. I ran that and had great results for my first non test only cycle.

 

[LBreezey]

350mg of sustanon a week isn't very much, especially on a test only cycle.

I would recommend testosterone and deca as your 2nd cycle, at 500mg of deca and 6-800mg of test per week. I ran that and had great results for my first non test only cycle.

Since it was my first cycle i was a bit paranoid about side effects and such and just wanted to dip my toes in the water rather than dive in. i appreciate it brother

 

[LeoTC]

350 a week is fine for a first cycle. I'd just front load with 700 the first one or two weeks.

 

[balco]

Since it was my first cycle i was a bit paranoid about side effects and such and just wanted to dip my toes in the water rather than dive in. i appreciate it brother

For sure, I totally understand that mindset, most people don't think that way.

If you use short esters you can always jump off and recover relatively quickly. Do you PCT? If you do I can't help you with that but I can point you in the right direction.

My advice is to have your full cycle, PCT and money for blood work set aside before you start the cycle.

 

[LBreezey]

For sure, I totally understand that mindset, most people don't think that way.

If you use short esters you can always jump off and recover relatively quickly. Do you PCT? If you do I can't help you with that but I can point you in the right direction.

My advice is to have your full cycle, PCT and money for blood work set aside before you start the cycle.

I did not pct on the first one but i will be this one. Ive researched and I think ive found a pretty solid cyle. 12 week cycle. 1-12 test cyp 600mg/wk, Deca 400mg/wk, and ameridex .5 mg eod. 1-6 D-bol 50mg/ed.

 

[LBreezey]

Another question. I have a source, however its one that ive found on here that people have had good feedback on. Any yall recommend

 

[balco]

I did not pct on the first one but i will be this one. Ive researched and I think ive found a pretty solid cyle. 12 week cycle. 1-12 test cyp 600mg/wk, Deca 400mg/wk, and ameridex .5 mg eod. 1-6 D-bol 50mg/ed.

You don't have a choice to PCT or not, if your aren't blasting/cruising you have to PCT. If you don't PCT, your going to fuck your hormones up and you will lose all gains.

That's cycle is fine but I would leave dbol out, for a lot of people estro gets to hard to control and considering you didn't PCT your first cycle just keep it simple, just do a test/deca cycle.

 

[Iron Frenchie]

If your going to PCT I would run Deca but the short acting version called NPP. Deca can take a month to clear. I would do something like.
100mg Test p EOD 1-10
150mg NPP EOD 1-10

 

[KetoMuscles]

Am I the only one that read he’s 20?? And you guys want to advise a seemingly conservative dude copious amounts of gear?
350mg may not have brought huge gains because you’re still in your prime and your body is producing huge amounts of test already.
Having you done any bloodwork? Before/during/after your first run?
How do you know where you’re at? How long ago did you finish the last go?
A pct might still be required.
Don’t start anything new. Figure out where you’re at.
Take your time.

 

[Worf]

Heres the thing about the guy being 20, if you don’t steer him in the right direction he’s going to do it anyway. The likelihood of him fucking himself up is greater without the advice, he already ran a cycle and didn’t do pct. Saying he’s too young and running him off may help YOUR conscience but hurt him in the long run. Its like telling a couple of 16 year olds they can’t have condoms because you think they are too young for sex and should practice abstinence. Girl is guaranteed to be pregnant soon.

Definitely get some pre cycle bloods. Op, just try running a proper test cycle first before throwing deca in there. Sust at 250x2 per week for 12 weeks would be nice. USE HCG , run clomid , and nolva for pct for at least a month after the esters clear. With sust that takes a month. Always have adex or Aromasin on hand. DO NOT START PINNING before you have all ancillaries in hand. Having some Letro just in case wouldnt hurt either.

 

[KetoMuscles]

I agree, running him off without offering solid advice first may do more harm than good. However, offering dangerous advice is even worse.
As far as me looking out for my own conscience, you are mistaken. Not once did I preach or say don’t do it.
He may have finished his forst run last week. Without knowing any details these assholes are telling him to run over a gram of gear. Wtf!
I suggested establishing baselines first. Or returning to baselines. Then take some time. To prepare. To research. To learn.
Everyone that frequents these forums has an obligation to look out for the junior (both age and experience). If they can’t offer safe intelligent advice then they should shut the fuck up.

 

[LBreezey]

I finished the sust in early December so it has been a while since its left my system. I really appreciate all the advice and concern.

 

[LBreezey]

And in all honesty i did not prepare well for the first cycle my buddy just got a hold of some and i basically figured out how to use it and what to look for and ran with it. Not my best choice. but ive researched this coming one and already have a pct prepared just have to order it along with the gear itself

 

[Blange89]

You did hgh on your first cycle?