Test E / Deca Cycle Reccomendations

[kdq99]

Hey guys. About to start my second ever cycle and was looking for some input on a good ratio.
This is what I was thinking:

Week 1-15 Test E 400mg/week
Week 1-12 Deca E 250mg/week

Week 1-15 Adex .5mg/eod (adjust as needed)

Does this ratio look ok or is the deca not high enough? I'm looking to stay on the conservative side, but I want to get proper results.

Currently 6' 215lbs approx 14% body fat

Thanks.

 

[tengtren]

Great doses but I would just run the deca all 15

Also keep in mind at 14% the deca can make you look pretty poof if you carbs are sloppy and you eat like a fool

What was your first cycle?

 

[ickyrica]

I have had great success with 500mg test cyp and 600mg deca ew. AI as needed.

 

[kdq99]

Great doses but I would just run the deca all 15

Also keep in mind at 14% the deca can make you look pretty poof if you carbs are sloppy and you eat like a fool

What was your first cycle?

First cycle was Test E 500mg/week for 12 weeks

 

[kdq99]

Great doses but I would just run the deca all 15

Also keep in mind at 14% the deca can make you look pretty poof if you carbs are sloppy and you eat like a fool

What was your first cycle?

I thought deca took a little longer to clear than the test so it was better to drop it a couple weeks before the test?

 

[ickyrica]

I thought deca took a little longer to clear than the test so it was better to drop it a couple weeks before the test?

You front loading the deca?

 

[kdq99]

I have had great success with 500mg test cyp and 600mg deca ew. AI as needed.

how were the sides with the deca higher than the test?

 

[kdq99]

You front loading the deca?

didn't plan on it

 

[ickyrica]

how were the sides with the deca higher than the test?

None that concerned me thank God. I'm one of the lucky ones. Little water weight was all. Npp has treated me well, also

didn't plan on it

Takes a minute to build up. May not hurt to do it

 

[kdq99]

None that concerned me thank God. I'm one of the lucky ones. Little water weight was all. Npp has treated me well, also


Takes a minute to build up. May not hurt to do it

how much would you recommend?

 

[ickyrica]

how much would you recommend?

I'd double the dose for the first week.

I would most likely run deca at 5 or 6 hundred mg per week, pinning e3d. So for my first week I might pin a full gram or just over, if I was inclined to. It's not an every cycle thing for me, tried it to try it kind of thing

 

[Worf]

Looks good, what’s the pct plan?

 

[kdq99]

Looks good, what’s the pct plan?

Haven't completely decided Got HCG, Clomid, and Nolva on hand though. Reccomendations?

 

[Worf]

HCG AT 250-2x per week while on

Clomid/Nolva, 4 weeks

50/50/25/25 Clomid
50/25/25/25 Nolva

Not everyone tolerates clomid well, so be prepared to adjust the dose.
You may need an AI during pct also, so plan for that.

 

[kdq99]

HCG AT 250-2x per week while on

Clomid/Nolva, 4 weeks

50/50/25/25 Clomid
50/25/25/25 Nolva

Not everyone tolerates clomid well, so be prepared to adjust the dose.
You may need an AI during pct also, so plan for that.

I have a script for anastrozole for the ai. I've used clomid before with no issues so I should be good. Thanks for the help

 

[KetoMuscles]

How were your results from the first run?
I ask because I think your planned numbers look good. No need to go over board. Always find the least amount necessary to achieve the desired outcome. If you go all out this time where will you go next time.
As Worf has wisely pointed out, clomid can bring about its own sides. And isn’t always needed. Arimidex isnt great with nolva. Aromasin is better. Bit I’m not an expert so do a bit of reading on it.

 

[kdq99]

I put on 20 and kept about 15 of it. I guess it could have been better? but I was pretty happy with results. I feel like I'm being conservative with my 2nd cycle (trying to resist the urge to try tren until I have several more cycles under my belt)