Ordering a large batch of raws: How much to order???

[sumpm1]

Hello all. I have been homebrewing mainly test for close to 3 years and it has mostly been going well. I am older and had always planned to stay on test for life. The plan was to find a supplier that I trust (I did), and to order a huge batch of raws and have as many years worth of test enth or cyp raws as possible. So I am only asking about testosterone, not huge amounts of other raws.

So give me your opinion on this. Should I favor cyp or enth? Does one store long term better than the other? What are the best long term storage methods? The freezer? The fridge? Etc....

I use a simple number for my estimate of how much test I take a year. I use 500mg a week as my standard dose (even though I do less than that on cruise dosage). This dosage amounts to about 25 grams a year. So 100 grams is 4 years of gear minimum.... I wouldn't mind ordering 500 grams or even more, if it will last that long and still be good.

What is the max amount of test raws you would order? And what esther would you prefer?

Thanks

 

[Couchlockd1]

Enanthate

 

[Evom1]

Cyp for sure based off how many people have run into pip over the past year from enanthate

 

[Iron Vett]

I only fool with test cyp nowadays. It’s been a crapshoot lately whether or not the enanthate raws are going to be extremely painful on injection

 

[Iron Frenchie]

If you do more then a CC a week I go with test e. I believe it’s slightly smoother (when it’s made right) and faster acting w/ less solvents. If you do less then a CC a week then test cyp. But you probably won’t notice a difference TBH.

The more grams you buy the cheaper. If it’s a big order you may want to split the package up. Buts that’s more $$$

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Cyp. Enanthate, even when stored properly is subject to melting and solidifying repeatedly, due to it's low melting point.

i don't know what, if anything, this repeated process does, maybe something changes at the molecular level, i don't know, but there's been too many instances of stored raws causing PIP that didn't occur prior to storage.

Could be user error in the way they stored their raws. Who knows? Personally, i wouldn't gamble with Enanthate. i'd be pretty pissed if i plunked down the cash for a lifetime supply of the raws and they turned out to be too painful to use later on down the road.

 

[T-Bagger]

Cyp is king. Pay no attention to those who say to go with E - they know not of which they speak!

 

[Monstar]

Enanthate used to be a no brainer but Chinese raws this year have produced some painful brews. Probably use Cyp at this point and just brew 200mg/ml and not get fancy as cyp is more temperamental to brew. Bad batch of Tren A has been out there too. Luckily my enanthate (allegedly) is painless. I notice no difference between it and my prescribed cyp so interchangable.

Melting and solidifying does not change molecular structure in any way as long as we aren't talking mega temperature flashes or something. Water can go from liquid to ice again and again and never change. Same with test e or similar. Only thing is that the powder gets like a rock so you need to take a hammer to break it into bits again then use some heat when putting it into solution (or wait a LONG time).

I'd favor not storing raws due to issues people have had - moisture, who knows what else. Just brew it all and store it in solution with BA, in a sterile media jar, kept in cool temps and darkness. I've seen gear last a decade or more without any significant loss of potency. Put a septa top on the media jar if you want.

I'm in a similar situation to you in that I'm HRT, legal and prescribed, but have had enough docs mess with my prescriptions on refill over the years that I'm not going to risk being caught without and having those asshats crash me. To that end I keep a respectable stash of this as well as my blood pressure meds and AI.

 

[ickyrica]

Cyp. Unless you pin your taint, then obviously enanthate

 

[Monstar]

Cyp. Unless you pin your taint, then obviously enanthate

Don't knock it until you've tried it. A good taint can hold 10ccs and no PIP...only pleasure.

 

[SomeRandoGuy]

I'm in a similar situation to you in that I'm HRT, legal and prescribed, but have had enough docs mess with my prescriptions on refill over the years that I'm not going to risk being caught without and having those asshats crash me. To that end I keep a respectable stash of this as well as my blood pressure meds and AI.

Been on a roller coaster ride the past 4 months due to the same thing. Fuck that.

 

[penche]

Cyp is king. Pay no attention to those who say to go with E - they know not of which they speak!

This.

@sumpm1
I would also advise you to vacuum seal any left over raws and place them in a cool dark place. That should help preserve them longer