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TrueI say just stick to what works, but that’s just me. Personally I don’t like the profile or others’ experiences, but if you want to try it who am I to say otherwise as I have 0 experience with it. Just stay skeptical because it seems like the wide majority, not all, but the wide majority who push it heavily are selling it too
It’s a 19nor? Wtf. Welp not running that shitLol, and what I have heeeeaaaarrrrddd..... lol.
On another note the way that it aromatizes is very similar to deca and tren. Guess why??? Because it’s a 19nor. So if you have ran deca/npp or tren at the same time then there should not be any surprises. It’s not a beginner compound. Like I said, unless you have run deca or tren at the same time, and are aware of how the both effect your body on PERSONAL level then you should do fine. It also depends on the ester of trest that one chooses to experiment with. Acetate, enanthate, decanoate. Each ester is going to aromatize at a different rate. So there’s that. Also the compounds that you choose to accompany trest in a cycle, are definitely going to have an effect on how it aromatizes. You can’t just take what someone says for face value you have to look at all the factors. Atleast I do. I would make some Kraft statement that trest is gonna give you chesties unless you laid out a cycle that seems careless and you seemed to inexperienced. No one runs before they learn how to walk. So why use trest unless you have experience with its brother and sister first. That’s my take on it.
You're inexperienced!!! Sweet spot is around 50mg ed max for trest. You need to have dialed your estrogen from other aromatazing compounds you run. And trest on top with ralox. I know a lot of people who run it that way. What enanthate and decanote you say no one uses these esters for trest. Quick in quick out acetate like tren it hits!!! Go read bullshit on google searchLol, and what I have heeeeaaaarrrrddd..... lol.
On another note the way that it aromatizes is very similar to deca and tren. Guess why??? Because it’s a 19nor. So if you have ran deca/npp or tren at the same time then there should not be any surprises. It’s not a beginner compound. Like I said, unless you have run deca or tren at the same time, and are aware of how the both effect your body on PERSONAL level then you should do fine. It also depends on the ester of trest that one chooses to experiment with. Acetate, enanthate, decanoate. Each ester is going to aromatize at a different rate. So there’s that. Also the compounds that you choose to accompany trest in a cycle, are definitely going to have an effect on how it aromatizes. You can’t just take what someone says for face value you have to look at all the factors. Atleast I do. I would make some Kraft statement that trest is gonna give you chesties unless you laid out a cycle that seems careless and you seemed to inexperienced. No one runs before they learn how to walk. So why use trest unless you have experience with its brother and sister first. That’s my take on it.
That’s the exact shit I researched and I crashed my estro listening to that by trying to be cautious and doubling my ai to .5 eod. I think it’s over exaggerated how they say it aromatises like your just gunna grow tits by Tuesday I should have just stayed at my regular dose and adjusted if neededFrom what I watched on youtube and read on other forums is that the number one issue with trest is its rate of aromatization. It apparently aromatizes more then any other steroid,, and its just very difficult to get an AI tuned in to control its aromatization level. This seems to be the number one turn off for almost everyone that uses it. The risk of developing gyno from it is just too high,, even if one uses an AI. Now,, I have read in one place (I can't remember where) that if the trest dosage is kept at 10mg/ per day,, then its aromatization level is very low,, and an AI is not necessary. But then,, I doubt the gains will great on just 10mg a day of trest and a test base
Yea it converts to methyl estradiol. Fuck that confusing compound I’ll stay with my usual tried and trueAnother problem is the estrogen it converts to does not show up on the LCMS Estrogen test since it is different structure than the estradiol that is converted from Testosterone. If going by bloods you can think you crashed your estrogen but you did not really. You have to be able to dial in your estrogen by feel and symptoms. Yuck.
I would use NPP or Tren A any day before Trest. Not interested in trying to figure out the details to make it work. NPP and Tren just fine.Yea it converts to methyl estradiol. Fuck that confusing compound I’ll stay with my usual tried and true
Well, so does dbolYea it converts to methyl estradiol. Fuck that confusing compound I’ll stay with my usual tried and true
That’s correct but I was able to gauge myself much better on dbol that I’ve used 100 times then a compound I’ve never used before that everyone says aromatises like no otherWell, so does dbol
When it comes to the 19 nor family,, are you saying that trestlone aromatizes at the same rate as a tren/NPP cycle does? Tren does not convert to estrogen (as supposedly said on paper). NPP aromatizes at 20 percent rate as test does. Trestlone aromatizes at a level above what test does. If you have ever used trestolone,,, you would know this. Its the same principle when it comes to the test derivative family. Example,,, EQ and test. Test aromatizes at its own level,, but EQ aromatizes at 50 percent less then test (but most bodybuilder are of the opinion it does not aromatize at all). Every steroid in every family will aromatize at a different level then other steroids in the same family. Im just pointing this out to you because I want you to be cautious if you do every take trestolone and to influence you to use a little more AI then usual just in case you every do want to try trestLol, and what I have heeeeaaaarrrrddd..... lol.
On another note the way that it aromatizes is very similar to deca and tren. Guess why??? Because it’s a 19nor. So if you have ran deca/npp or tren at the same time then there should not be any surprises. It’s not a beginner compound. Like I said, unless you have run deca or tren at the same time, and are aware of how the both effect your body on PERSONAL level then you should do fine. It also depends on the ester of trest that one chooses to experiment with. Acetate, enanthate, decanoate. Each ester is going to aromatize at a different rate. So there’s that. Also the compounds that you choose to accompany trest in a cycle, are definitely going to have an effect on how it aromatizes. You can’t just take what someone says for face value you have to look at all the factors. Atleast I do. I would make some Kraft statement that trest is gonna give you chesties unless you laid out a cycle that seems careless and you seemed to inexperienced. No one runs before they learn how to walk. So why use trest unless you have experience with its brother and sister first. That’s my take on it.
Yes It is, i know it surprises a lot of other people, sort of like anadrol, a lot of people tend to forget it is a DHT derivative. I personally find trestolone intriguing. Reason being, because there isn’t a lot of info on it tells me that if I want to know how it effects me, then I am going to have to take a leap of faith and run it myself. When it comes to compounds like testosterone, deca, those compound act pretty similar in the majority of the people that use them. However, I find personally that for the most part every compound that is out there available for use effects most everyone differently. So I don’t see any reason to think trestolone is to be an exception. When I use a compound that i have never danced with before, I try to remain as open minded and respectful as possible. Sort of like a first date. Throughout the years I see bad things happen to people that jump into the use of compounds by using extremely high doses and those are the people that end up posting about their horrible experiences. I refuse to be that guy. So if I were to use trest, I would probably not use more that 10mg Ed or 25eod just to be on the safe side. I definitely would start with acetate, and run it no longer than 6wks. I feel that is a good length to be able to get a honest feel for the compound. At which time, I can gather my thoughts, and feelings about how the compound and I got along. However, I am not in a rush to try trestolone but thought I would give an example of how I would engage if I ever decided to take the plungeIt’s a 19nor? Wtf. Welp not running that shit
Am saying that trestolone progesteragenic side effects are going to be like if you were running tren and npp, or tren and deca, at high doses.When it comes to the 19 nor family,, are you saying that trestlone aromatizes at the same rate as a tren/NPP cycle does? Tren does not convert to estrogen (as supposedly said on paper). NPP aromatizes at 20 percent rate as test does. Trestlone aromatizes at a level above what test does. If you have ever used trestolone,,, you would know this. Its the same principle when it comes to the test derivative family. Example,,, EQ and test. Test aromatizes at its own level,, but EQ aromatizes at 50 percent less then test (but most bodybuilder are of the opinion it does not aromatize at all). Every steroid in every family will aromatize at a different level then other steroids in the same family. Im just pointing this out to you because I want you to be cautious if you do every take trestolone and to influence you to use a little more AI then usual just in case you every do want to try trest
