Cycle #4 (Test/Mast/NPP)

[GAlax17]

Hey guys Im gonna try and keep a log for my next cycle I'm starting. 23, ~5'8", 185lbs, not as lean as I would like but I am not getting on stage anytime soon so I will be bulking. Ran test, anadrol, masteron before. Ive been on a cruise of 200mg test c/weekly for the last 4 months.

Test E:
Week1-4:300mg
Week5-16:500mg
Week17-18:300mg

Masteron (these are in a ratio with test that has worked well for me in the past)
Week1-4:100mg
Week5-16:150mg
Week17-18:100mg

NPP:
Week8-9:200mg
Week10-15:400mg
Week16-17:200mg

Ill have all my ancillaries on hand if I need them but I don't usually require an AI for the test/mast protocol above. Will be monitoring for prolactin sides as well now.
Diet at the moment is 230p/330c/60f with an occasional refeed ~1x per week.
I will be getting bloods done afterwards to make sure everything is alright. I have my before done but they aren't on my computer so i'll have to find them when I get up tomorrow.

 

[Delt123]

Test/mast/npp is one I would like to try but thinking about sticking to testosterone only.

I can understand the increase in dosages, but not sure about the thoughtproces behind lowering doses? Although for 1 week

 

[Iron Frenchie]

So you’re cruising using nandrolone and only 23. You plan to be on TRT for life?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Couple notes.

100mg Masteron? 200mg NPP? Where are these doses coming from? Almost too small to matter...

And why are you decreasing dosage late in the cycle?

As far as your diet, IMO shift more cals to protein. Your diet will need to also add cals over the cycle to bulk. A constant caloric intake will stall.

 

[Whoremoans]

Hey guys Im gonna try and keep a log for my next cycle I'm starting. 23, ~5'8", 185lbs, not as lean as I would like but I am not getting on stage anytime soon so I will be bulking. Ran test, anadrol, masteron before. Ive been on a cruise of 200mg test c/weekly for the last 4 months.

Test E:
Week1-4:300mg
Week5-16:500mg
Week17-18:300mg

Masteron (these are in a ratio with test that has worked well for me in the past)
Week1-4:100mg
Week5-16:150mg
Week17-18:100mg

NPP:
Week8-9:200mg
Week10-15:400mg
Week16-17:200mg

Ill have all my ancillaries on hand if I need them but I don't usually require an AI for the test/mast protocol above. Will be monitoring for prolactin sides as well now.
Diet at the moment is 230p/330c/60f with an occasional refeed ~1x per week.
I will be getting bloods done afterwards to make sure everything is alright. I have my before done but they aren't on my computer so i'll have to find them when I get up tomorrow.

The test and mast combo may not give you any estrogen problems, but NPP aromatizes also. You’ll be converting roughly 2x the amount of estrogen on this cycle than you would be without the NPP. Keep that in mind.

 

[GAlax17]

I love posting on here because it really makes sure I got everything covered.

So you’re cruising using nandrolone and only 23. You plan to be on TRT for life?

TRT for life is something I am not opposed to. I don't understand if I worded something poorly, but I will only be using the NPP for 10 weeks.

Couple notes.

100mg Masteron? 200mg NPP? Where are these doses coming from? Almost too small to matter...

And why are you decreasing dosage late in the cycle?

As far as your diet, IMO shift more cals to protein. Your diet will need to also add cals over the cycle to bulk. A constant caloric intake will stall.

100 mast was what I used in my cruise, I am going up to 150 because I had good results at 500/150 test/mast on my last cycle. Trying to use as little as possible.

Decrease in dose is due to the fact that I am cruising and I want to give my body a chance to back off instead of just cutting it out completely (which I could do as well). I am reversing out of my cut where I was eating 2300 calories a day and in just over 2 months I am up to almost 2900 calories maintaining the same weight of ~185. That will hopefully surpass 3000 in the upcoming weeks.

The test and mast combo may not give you any estrogen problems, but NPP aromatizes also. You’ll be converting roughly 2x the amount of estrogen on this cycle than you would be without the NPP. Keep that in mind.

You are 100% right and the prolactin shouldn't be too much of an issue so long as I don't let my estrogen get out of wack. Ill definitely be reading more in to others who have ran similar cycles and see what sort of protocol others followed. No plan on using AI unless I see some bad sides and even then I will still probably want bloods back first.

 

[GAlax17]

Another thing I want to ask, should I begin taking Vitamins B6 when I run this cycle to help with prolactin levels?

Last time I saw my doctor we went over bloods and he gave me a script for Hydroxy-25 Vit D and t3/t4. He said my thyroid wasn't where he would like to see it but I didn't see major cause for concern:
TSH: 3.71 mIU/L (0.4-4.5)
T4: 7.4 mcg/dL (4.9-10.5)
T3: 4.5 pg/mL (2.3-4.2) H
I haven't started the thyroid or OH 25-D yet.

 

[The ole man]

I love posting on here because it really makes sure I got everything covered.

TRT for life is something I am not opposed to. I don't understand if I worded something poorly, but I will only be using the NPP for 10 weeks.



100 mast was what I used in my cruise, I am going up to 150 because I had good results at 500/150 test/mast on my last cycle. Trying to use as little as possible.

Decrease in dose is due to the fact that I am cruising and I want to give my body a chance to back off instead of just cutting it out completely (which I could do as well). I am reversing out of my cut where I was eating 2300 calories a day and in just over 2 months I am up to almost 2900 calories maintaining the same weight of ~185. That will hopefully surpass 3000 in the upcoming weeks.


You are 100% right and the prolactin shouldn't be too much of an issue so long as I don't let my estrogen get out of wack. Ill definitely be reading more in to others who have ran similar cycles and see what sort of protocol others followed. No plan on using AI unless I see some bad sides and even then I will still probably want bloods back first.

Bro you really need to listen to the advice Macs giving you. There is experienced guys on here that pay him several hundred dollars a month for his advice.
So let’s relook at his advice and what you got planned.
I’m not even gonna discuss your age and how detrimental this is to your future. I’m gonna just leavi it at your grown man and if you want upset the Apple cart then that’s your business.

So
Weeks 1-12
Test E 300 mg
Mast E 400 mg
NPP 400 mg
If after 12 you want to run to 18 weeks then at least you will have your AI dialed in. Blood test at 6 week mark. That’s why we don’t want to tirade up. We need to set the dosage and then find how much AI you need.

I would recommend running hcg during cycle. Your way too young to permanently fuck up your balls.
Also get some aromasin if you don’t already got it.
Get bloods at the 6 week mark
Should of had baseline blood test before you started but it’s too late for that now.

This is a really good cycle. I would encourage you to pct at your age

Lastly you need to rethink your diet, especially your macros. Flip your protein and carbs so that it’s 340/230/60
Protein/carbs/fats

 

[GAlax17]

I will pick up some hcg, more so in case I do want to come off but right now I don't see that happening unless a medical emergency. It is my goal to build up mass and step on stage late next year this is going to be my bulking push this off season.
Already got aromasin but last time I used it I took 12.5 EOD and crashed my e2.

I am going back on a cruise after this cycle.

Whats wrong with my current macro split? not that I am against raising protein in favor of fats and carbs, I just have seen awesome progress thus far. Do you think I would benefit from say 270p/300c/60f?

Thanks for all the help guys, I know being my age is not really optimal to be doing this. With that being said it means a lot to have some of you more experienced guys around to help me learn the best way to do things.

 

[JradMIT]

I love posting on here because it really makes sure I got everything covered.

TRT for life is something I am not opposed to. I don't understand if I worded something poorly, but I will only be using the NPP for 10 weeks.



100 mast was what I used in my cruise, I am going up to 150 because I had good results at 500/150 test/mast on my last cycle. Trying to use as little as possible.

Decrease in dose is due to the fact that I am cruising and I want to give my body a chance to back off instead of just cutting it out completely (which I could do as well). I am reversing out of my cut where I was eating 2300 calories a day and in just over 2 months I am up to almost 2900 calories maintaining the same weight of ~185. That will hopefully surpass 3000 in the upcoming weeks.


You are 100% right and the prolactin shouldn't be too much of an issue so long as I don't let my estrogen get out of wack. Ill definitely be reading more in to others who have ran similar cycles and see what sort of protocol others followed. No plan on using AI unless I see some bad sides and even then I will still probably want bloods back first.