Feedback on my ideas about steroid harm reduction

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

How steroid users reduce the harms of their use.
I would love feedback on this stuff before I submit it for publication. I want to represent this community as well as I can.
I bang on a bit so see description for time codes as you may not want to listen to it all

 

[Deleted member 59947]

2nd slide:

« Since the first experiments with testosterone in the 19th century »

Testosterone wad first synthesized in 1935...

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

2nd slide:

« Since the first experiments with testosterone in the 19th century »

Testosterone wad first synthesized in 1935...

Shit, that was my co-author who wrote that bit - will have to talk to him about that! Thanks so much for your eagle eye

 

[Safety First]

How steroid users reduce the harms of their use.
I would love feedback on this stuff before I submit it for publication. I want to represent this community as well as I can.
I bang on a bit so see description for time codes as you may not want to listen to it all

What is the intention of your publication?
As in what do you hope to achieve...

 

[bambam333]

I can tell you it’s way too long to grasp my attention I lasted 5 minutes

 

[Safety First]

I can tell you it’s way too long to grasp my attention I lasted 5 minutes

I didn't make it past the 2nd slide. Excuse my ignorance but I can't help but wonder what this hopes to accomplish.

 

[Eman]

I didn't make it past the 2nd slide. Excuse my ignorance but I can't help but wonder what this hopes to accomplish.

What is the intention of your publication?
As in what do you hope to achieve...

If you listen for more than 5 minutes you'd be able to answer your own question. FFS, there's a summary under the video.

 

[weighted chinup]

Finished watching.

There is nothing that I disagree with and believe this to be accurate and comprehensive.

Only thing that would have been interesting to see mentioned were cases about sudden-death in young AAS users between 20-30 who had no prior symptoms. There are more and more examples of these in the literature as years go by, but basically it seems there is a % of people, maybe not statically significant, who experience enough remodeling or changes to result in sudden death in a VERY short period of time (say 6 months to a year). This would have been interesting to include because it is something you essentially can't prevent in most of those cases.

Maybe this issue is outside the scope of harm-reduction, but I do have a particular bias for that specific issue and wish it would get more exposure. Then again, most people on this board probably aren't even aware of it being a possibility.

All in all, no disagreements or objections from myself about anything.

 

[Safety First]

If you listen for more than 5 minutes you'd be able to answer your own question. FFS, there's a summary under the video.

It just seems like a lot of wasted effort on the behalf of the researcher. The video/project is not very far reaching that I can tell. What will it net? A hundred views ?

It seems like a very good willed project, but just one more of the researchers own interest.

It doesn't seem like it's going to do very much. I mean who will publish it? MESO-Rx?

 

[weighted chinup]

I can tell you it’s way too long to grasp my attention I lasted 5 minutes

That's cool, but no complaining about health care workers not knowing how to properly approach and treat AAS users.

 

[weighted chinup]

The replies here...

I am no longer convinced AAS users deserve to have anyone researching harm reduction on their behalf. Jfc.

 

[Safety First]

Only thing that would have been interesting to see mentioned were cases about sudden-death in young AAS users between 20-30 who had no prior symptoms. There are more and more examples of these in the literature as years go by, but basically it seems there is a % of people, maybe not statically significant, who experience enough remodeling or changes to result in sudden death in a VERY short period of time (say 6 months to a year). This would have been interesting to include because it is something you essentially can't prevent in most of those cases.

Maybe this issue is outside the scope of harm-reduction

I think that actually is within the scope of harm reduction. I think the message there is to forgo use in the first place.

 

[Eman]

It just seems like a lot of wasted effort on the behalf of the researcher. The video/project is not very far reaching that I can tell. What will it net? A hundred views ?

It seems like a very good willed project, but just one more of the researchers own interest.

It doesn't seem like it's going to do very much. I mean who will publish it? MESO-Rx?

You're really not familiar with the ins and outs of researchers submitting their work for publication, are you?

I think this is one of those threads you should do more reading than responding.

I'm sure Millard would be happy to publish her finished work on the website lol, but that's not exactly what she's aiming for.

 

[Test_Subject]

I can tell you it’s way too long to grasp my attention I lasted 5 minutes

I didn't make it past the 2nd slide. Excuse my ignorance but I can't help but wonder what this hopes to accomplish.

Are you guys goldfish?

The video/project is not very far reaching that I can tell. What will it net? A hundred views ?...

...It doesn't seem like it's going to do very much. I mean who will publish it? MESO-Rx?

She's submitting is for academic publication not Youtube likes...

Fucking plebs, I swear.

 

[Safety First]

You're really not familiar with the ins and outs of researchers submitting their work for publication, are you?

I think this is one of those threads you should do more reading than responding.

I'm sure Millard would be happy to publish her finished work on the website lol, but that's not exactly what she's aiming for.

Not really. I'll shut the fuck up. Carry on
@MairUnderwood(Researcher)

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

2nd slide:

« Since the first experiments with testosterone in the 19th century »

Testosterone wad first synthesized in 1935...

Sorry was in a rush before - just realised that it says "first experiments with testosterone" which was the 19th C. The eminent physician Brown-Sequard (1889), experimented with testosterone and suggested it had a powerful influence on wellbeing, vitality and libido. While his experiments have since been dismissed as flawed, with his self reported benefits being attributed to mere placebo (Cussons et al., 2002), he was actually correct in his conclusions. He used testicular extracts from guinea pigs or dogs

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

I can tell you it’s way too long to grasp my attention I lasted 5 minutes

It's an academic paper so they're usually about 8-9000 words so it is long (and too academic). Once I get the content right I might try and do a more accessible version that just talks about the strategies in an easier to digest way. Maybe even a podcast or something

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

What is the intention of your publication?
As in what do you hope to achieve...

The aim is for the 'professionals' (policy makers, medicos and researchers) to actually understand what steroid users do so they can improve support and evaluate these strategies to see if they work or if they have risks attached

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Finished watching.

There is nothing that I disagree with and believe this to be accurate and comprehensive.

Only thing that would have been interesting to see mentioned were cases about sudden-death in young AAS users between 20-30 who had no prior symptoms. There are more and more examples of these in the literature as years go by, but basically it seems there is a % of people, maybe not statically significant, who experience enough remodeling or changes to result in sudden death in a VERY short period of time (say 6 months to a year). This would have been interesting to include because it is something you essentially can't prevent in most of those cases.

Maybe this issue is outside the scope of harm-reduction, but I do have a particular bias for that specific issue and wish it would get more exposure. Then again, most people on this board probably aren't even aware of it being a possibility.

All in all, no disagreements or objections from myself about anything.

Stoked that i have done an OK job, thanks so much for the feedback.
I was not aware of these cases of sudden death myself. where they cardiac arrests? don't suppose you know of literature on this?

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Not really. I'll shut the fuck up. Carry on
@MairUnderwood(Researcher)

I will! But yours, and some of the other responses, have convinced me that once I get the content sorted I should do a more accessible version that is not so academic so I can reach all audiences