Neewbiest's first cycle log

[Neewbiest guy]

Here's this mornings Chest and Abs work out. I did up the Test Cyp to 500mg and the NPP to 400mg to start this 4th week out, so I'll keep you all posted on if any sides creep up on me. Since I up'd the dosages I seemed to have a slight bubble right at the injection site for a little bit after pinning, but has since went down. It is just around 1.5 cc that I'm injecting now so I'm assume that may be normal with higher volumes of oils? My hand was a bit shaky as well cause I usually stand when pinning glutes.


Chest/abs:

Bench press *****
165x5x5 (+5lbs)
Incline bench press *****
125x5x5 last set 125x4 (+5lbs)
Decline bench press *****
175x5x5 (+5lbs)
Dumbbell flys ***
35x8x3
Dumbell bench press ***
55x6x3
Low cable cross over ***
17.5x8x3 (+3.5lbs)
High Cable crossovers ***
22.5x8x3 (+3.5lbs)

Abs:
Cable crunch ***
92.5x10x3
Side to side ***
30x20x3 (+5lbs)
Oblique sit up ***
3x8 ea
Torso rotation ***
170x12x3 ea

 

[Jurgen]

You plan on posting before and after pics?
You decide to stop pinning eod?

 

[Neewbiest guy]

You plan on posting before and after pics?
You decide to stop pinning eod?

Nope still pinning EOD. I was just stating that this is the dosage I will be pining overall for the week. I do have have a before pic from close to the end of my cut before I started bulking. I may post a before and after, but not certain.

 

[JP1979]

Nope still pinning EOD. I was just stating that this is the dosage I will be pining overall for the week. I do have have a before pic from close to the end of my cut before I started bulking. I may post a before and after, but not certain.

It’s always good to see before and after pics.... you know it’s one thing for you to tell us your progress, it’s another thing for us to see it.

 

[DavidW23]

It’s always good to see before and after pics.... you know it’s one thing for you to tell us your progress, it’s another thing for us to see it.

I agree. Nice to actually see the progress. Especially with as detailed of a cycle log.

 

[Neewbiest guy]

Here's today's Shoulder and Trap session. You guys are always welcome to criticize and give advice if you think I should be doing more of something or less of another. Or if there are certain exercises that you think will benefit me more for putting in size and strength. I will probably post before and after once I'm done with this cycle. I will say however the before I have is when I was almost down to around 158lbs so I was looking pretty scrawny.


Shoulders & Traps:

Barbell press ***
120x6x3 last set 120x5 (+10lbs)
Barbell upright row ***
110x6x3 (+10lbs)
Dumbell side raise (elbows slightly bent)***
25x10x3
Front plate raise + front press ***
45x8x3 (+5lbs)
Dumbell side lateral raises *** (added this week)
20x8x3
Dumbbell shrug ***
70x16x3
Barbell shrug ***
260x6x3 (+10lbs)
Bentover barbell row ***
120x8x3 (+10lbs)
Face pull ***
57.5x10x3.(+5lbs)
Standing Y pull ***
57.5x10x3 (+5lbs)
Dumbell shoulder press ***
45x8x3 (+5lbs)
Shoulder side cable raise ***
10.5x8x3 ea
Rotator cuff inside ***
19x12x3 ea (+1.5lbs)
Rotator cuff outside ***
9x12x3 ea (+1.5lbs)

 

[Btcowboy]

Here's today's Shoulder and Trap session. You guys are always welcome to criticize and give advice if you think I should be doing more of something or less of another. Or if there are certain exercises that you think will benefit me more for putting in size and strength. I will probably post before and after once I'm done with this cycle. I will say however the before I have is when I was almost down to around 158lbs so I was looking pretty scrawny.


Shoulders & Traps:

Barbell press ***
120x6x3 last set 120x5 (+10lbs)
Barbell upright row ***
110x6x3 (+10lbs)
Dumbell side raise (elbows slightly bent)***
25x10x3
Front plate raise + front press ***
45x8x3 (+5lbs)
Dumbell side lateral raises *** (added this week)
20x8x3
Dumbbell shrug ***
70x16x3
Barbell shrug ***
260x6x3 (+10lbs)
Bentover barbell row ***
120x8x3 (+10lbs)
Face pull ***
57.5x10x3.(+5lbs)
Standing Y pull ***
57.5x10x3 (+5lbs)
Dumbell shoulder press ***
45x8x3 (+5lbs)
Shoulder side cable raise ***
10.5x8x3 ea
Rotator cuff inside ***
19x12x3 ea (+1.5lbs)
Rotator cuff outside ***
9x12x3 ea (+1.5lbs)

My opinion and it is only that, it seems to me for a shoulder and trap day to be an awful lot.
Everyone is different though. Traps get hit good from heavy deadlifts so shrugs could be 4x12-20 as heavy as you can. More importantly 2-3 second holds top and stretch bottom.
Shoulders, 1 heavy press maybe 3 or 4x8, then maybe upright row(bet you get trap work here too),some front and side raises, bent over rear raises and some face pulls lighter weight and higher reps on all these.

Again just my opinion... A question are you following a program or your own design?

 

[MindlessWork]

Sounds like an interesting log for a newbie. Hope this leads you to the promised land OP.

 

[Sworder]

In regards to the exercises used, I only do 2-3 exercises per muscle group. I prefer doing the ones that I feel I get the most connection with. And then I do a high volume of sets. You can cycle, diet and train 1000 different ways. Do whatever works best for you, that is going to be the best route IMO. On my first cycle I regret not eating enough, your body is going to go through macros like crazy don't be afraid to eat so you can grow.

 

[Neewbiest guy]

My opinion and it is only that, it seems to me for a shoulder and trap day to be an awful lot.
Everyone is different though. Traps get hit good from heavy deadlifts so shrugs could be 4x12-20 as heavy as you can. More importantly 2-3 second holds top and stretch bottom.
Shoulders, 1 heavy press maybe 3 or 4x8, then maybe upright row(bet you get trap work here too),some front and side raises, bent over rear raises and some face pulls lighter weight and higher reps on all these.

Again just my opinion... A question are you following a program or your own design?

See I get a multitude of opinions on how much is too much or not enough. As far as a program goes I more or less took a few suggestions from some people and built a program for me.

 

[Sworder]

See I get a multitude of opinions on how much is too much or not enough. As far as a program goes I more or less took a few suggestions from some people and built a program for me.

Go by what feels right for you. You should know your body and conditioning best! Have you been taking progress pics?

I love first cycle before and afters, tren before and afters make me wet.

 

[Btcowboy]

Go by what feels right for you. You should know your body and conditioning best! Have you been taking progress pics?

I love first cycle before and afters, tren before and afters make me wet.

I don't disagree with doing what feels right for the person. However being newer to the game following a more cookie cutter program based on OPs goals might be a better start until the OP gets a better feel for it. May save him from over training and possible injury... again just my 2 cents..

Looking forward though to watching OP progress.

 

[Sworder]

I don't disagree with doing what feels right for the person. However being newer to the game following a more cookie cutter program based on OPs goals might be a better start until the OP gets a better feel for it. May save him from over training and possible injury...

Looking forward though to watching OP progress.

If you would want to discuss your post I would like to challenge your views and I would be interested to hear what your thoughts are.

You say that somebody who is newer to the game might follow a more "cookie cutter program." This implies there are different levels to training? I feel like marketing and bullshit makes us believe that you need to do this and you need to do that. In all honesty, I did "more complicated" things when I started out working out because I didn't know what to do. I feel like we push an idea out that working out has to be done a certain way to achieve different looks. I disagree with that. For example, I do a seated bench press only, I hear some guys say you need to do incline to work your upper chest etc. I have found that to be BS.

Lastly, I do not believe in "overtraining." What does it mean to you?

I understand if you do not have the time or gumption to respond. I am sorry if this become a semi hijack.

 

[Btcowboy]

If you would want to discuss your post I would like to challenge your views and I would be interested to hear what your thoughts are.

You say that somebody who is newer to the game might follow a more "cookie cutter program." This implies there are different levels to training? I feel like marketing and bullshit makes us believe that you need to do this and you need to do that. In all honesty, I did "more complicated" things when I started out working out because I didn't know what to do. I feel like we push an idea out that working out has to be done a certain way to achieve different looks. I disagree with that. For example, I do a seated bench press only, I hear some guys say you need to do incline to work your upper chest etc. I have found that to be BS.

Lastly, I do not believe in "overtraining." What does it mean to you?

I understand if you do not have the time or gumption to respond. I am sorry if this become a semi hijack.

I am not going to debate it with you. You have your opinion and I have mine. OP asked for thoughts, I gave him mine.

Have a great day

 

[Sworder]

I am not going to debate it with you. You have your opinion and I have mine. OP asked for thoughts, I gave him mine.

Have a great day

Yeah no problem! You too!

 

[WeMadeItToAndromeda]

If you would want to discuss your post I would like to challenge your views and I would be interested to hear what your thoughts are.

You say that somebody who is newer to the game might follow a more "cookie cutter program." This implies there are different levels to training? I feel like marketing and bullshit makes us believe that you need to do this and you need to do that. In all honesty, I did "more complicated" things when I started out working out because I didn't know what to do. I feel like we push an idea out that working out has to be done a certain way to achieve different looks. I disagree with that. For example, I do a seated bench press only, I hear some guys say you need to do incline to work your upper chest etc. I have found that to be BS.

Lastly, I do not believe in "overtraining." What does it mean to you?

I understand if you do not have the time or gumption to respond. I am sorry if this become a semi hijack.

Overtraining = under recovering in my book.

I do not believe there is such a thing as overtraining either.

 

[Neewbiest guy]

Overtraining = under recovering in my book.

I do not believe there is such a thing as overtraining either.

I was just going to say something to that effect. I don't feel like I over train at all and get plenty of recovery time. I really gauge it if I'm fatigued in the gym or even during the day. But even with the large amount of sets I feel fine.

 

[WeMadeItToAndromeda]

I was just going to say something to that effect. I don't feel like I over train at all and get plenty of recovery time. I really gauge it if I'm fatigued in the gym or even during the day. But even with the large amount of sets I feel fine.

I think that's the main thing people forget about, they're so concerned with following a "program" to the T, that they forgot to listen to their own bodies. They deload when they don't need to, simply because the program tells them to, they do more sets/reps and don't deload or take a break when they're body is telling them it's getting beat up and needs a break.

Listening to your body (to me) is rule #1 when it comes to gear, diet and training.

 

[Neewbiest guy]

This mornings Arms and Abs workout. So far on this cycle no real sides other than I have some decent back acne creepin in. I'm assuming it's due to elevated testosterone levels. I think I may order blood work a week early just to see where things are. Wednesday marks the start of week 5. Here are the labs I'm ordering.

Hormone Panel with Estradiol Sensitive and Testosterone LC/MS-MS

*Chem Panel (Basic) with Lipids


Arms:
Dumbbell curl ***
45x8x3
Rope Tricep press ***
50x10x3
Standing Tricep cable machine ***
70x8x3
Standing Reverse barbell curl ***
60x8x3
standing reverse Tricep cable machine ***
60x8x3
Standing hammer curl ***
40x8x3
Seated preacher curl ***
140x8x3
Seated tricep press machine ***
220x8x3

Abs:
Cable Crunchs ***
92.5x10x3
Leg lifts ***
10x3
Torso rotation ***
170x12x3 ea
Ab side to sides ***
30x25x3
Weighted sit up ***
25x15x3

 

[Neewbiest guy]

Sundays back day and Mondays legs and abs. @Btcowboy you may be right on the amount of sets I'm doing. Hasn't happened in a while, but Monday I felt like I ran into a brick wall. I'm thinking I may have to augment the program I'm following in order to get an extra recovery day in our at least lower the number of sets each day. Right now I'm hitting the gym M/W/F/S/S. Could have just been a bad in the gym. I also decided to do a little incline waking cause I feel like my Cardio had gone to shit. Since I started bulking I haven't really done any. I'm thinking maybe less sets and then add a little cardio on some days?


Sunday back:

Pull ups ***
3x8
Face pulls ***
52.5x10x3
Wide grip sitting row ***
145x8x3
Close grip sitting row ***
145x8x3
Lat pull down wide grip ***
145x8x3
Lat pull down close grip ***
145x6x4
Dumbell upright rows ***
65x8x3 ea
Sitting bent over back flys ***
20x10x3
Dumbell trap shrug ***
65x15x3 (2 sec hold)
Hypertensions **
45x8x3
Chin up ***
3x8

Monday legs/Abs:

Legs
Squat *****
185x5x5
Deadlift *****
260x5x5 (+10lbs)
Leg extention ***
205x8x3
Seated leg curl ***
185x6x3
Calf extensions ***
280x12x3

Abs
Cable crunch ***
92.5x10x3
Ab side to sides (kettle bell) ***
30x25x3
Oblique sit up ***
8x3 ea
Torso rotation machine ***
170x12x3 ea

1 mile walk incline 5 *