Potential Cycle

[LBreezey]

This is gonna be my second cycle and I believe I have it planned out. Not going to order until dosages are nailed down for the time being. Going to be a 12 week cycle and I am lifting 5-6 days a week depending on how my split lines. Currently 3500 cal upping it to 4300cal with 300g of protein. 6’0 208 (up to 221 on my last cycle in August and tapered down)
(Symbiotic for all)
Test prop-125mg eod 1-12wk
EQ-400mg/week 1-8wk
Tren Ace-50mg/eod 7-12wk
Adrol-50mg ed 1-5wk
Var-50mg ed 7-12wk
I appreciate any advice or adjustments y’all may throw my way.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

This is gonna be my second cycle and I believe I have it planned out. Not going to order until dosages are nailed down for the time being. Going to be a 12 week cycle and I am lifting 5-6 days a week depending on how my split lines. Currently 3500 cal upping it to 4300cal with 300g of protein. 6’0 208 (up to 221 on my last cycle in August and tapered down)
(Symbiotic for all)
Test prop-125mg eod 1-12wk
EQ-400mg/week 1-8wk
Tren Ace-50mg/eod 7-12wk
Adrol-50mg ed 1-5wk
Var-50mg ed 7-12wk
I appreciate any advice or adjustments y’all may throw my way.

Also, that's a lot of orals my friend.

Maybe consider dropping an oral, dependant on what you want for your cycle.

You're already on Tren and EQ.

What was your last cycle?
Personally I'm a fan of only adding a single unknown compound per cycle so you can effectively monitor how you're doing.

 

[Eman]

I would skip the anavar or the anadrol, I would personally opt for the anadrol over var.

I would skip the EQ - you're not taking it long enough for it to really matter and the dose isn't enough that you'll get a lot out of it. Being your second cycle, I wouldn't combine eq and tren together.

I don't know what your goals are but, considering it's your second cycle... I would personally up the EQ and drop the tren. That's based solely on looking back over my early cycles... I waited a while to use tren and I'm glad I did, EQ is a good one to add earlier though.

 

[ThyNoah]

Don’t listen to anyone here, you need to get swole and your second cycle is perfect to run multiple orals and you need to up everything above 1gram a week. I’ll make it easy for you, here is a very very basic 20 week cycle, just follow it exactly and you will get bigger by the day, promise....

 

[FlawlessSet]

This is gonna be my second cycle and I believe I have it planned out. Not going to order until dosages are nailed down for the time being. Going to be a 12 week cycle and I am lifting 5-6 days a week depending on how my split lines. Currently 3500 cal upping it to 4300cal with 300g of protein. 6’0 208 (up to 221 on my last cycle in August and tapered down)
(Symbiotic for all)
Test prop-125mg eod 1-12wk
EQ-400mg/week 1-8wk
Tren Ace-50mg/eod 7-12wk
Adrol-50mg ed 1-5wk
Var-50mg ed 7-12wk
I appreciate any advice or adjustments y’all may throw my way.

hey mate unless you want more strength I would swap the adrol for tbol or just run more var.

 

[LBreezey]

Also, that's a lot of orals my friend.

Maybe consider dropping an oral, dependant on what you want for your cycle.

You're already on Tren and EQ.

What was your last cycle?
Personally I'm a fan of only adding a single unknown compound per cycle so you can effectively monitor how you're doing.

My last cycle was 350mg/wk of both test e and deca. I had planned on running drol but the batch I got was bunk

 

[LBreezey]

View attachment 125324 View attachment 125323 Don’t listen to anyone here, you need to get swole and your second cycle is perfect to run multiple orals and you need to up everything above 1gram a week. I’ll make it easy for you, here is a very very basic 20 week cycle, just follow it exactly and you will get bigger by the day, promise....

Holy fuck I’d either get jacked or die in the process.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

My last cycle was 350mg/wk of both test e and deca. I had planned on running drol but the batch I got was bunk

Choose one or the other imho
Like @Eman said.

I have a few potential issues with your cycle.
Take it as advice and not flaming you please.

1- you can make solid gains without the Tren
If you're going to enter the lifestyle, save Tren for when you need it.
Why put your body through the stress when you can still make qaulity gains from less serious compounds?

2. Not long enough for EQ
16 weeks minimum amigo.

What Eman said is on point.

For a second cycle...

500mg Test
500mg (Or more) EQ
for 16 weeks.

You can lower the Test if you want as well.

I'm NOT a fan of Orals at the beginning of Cycles.
Mainly because even Var will fuck your lipids.
While you're on cycle/blast, you wont recover your lipids
You can only recover once youre off the sauce.

So if you add orals at the beginning.. you spend longer amounts of time with crashed lipods...which is not healthy.

 

[Eman]

What Eman said is on point.

Doesn't this always just go without saying?

 

[Physique Demon]

This is gonna be my second cycle and I believe I have it planned out. Not going to order until dosages are nailed down for the time being. Going to be a 12 week cycle and I am lifting 5-6 days a week depending on how my split lines. Currently 3500 cal upping it to 4300cal with 300g of protein. 6’0 208 (up to 221 on my last cycle in August and tapered down)
(Symbiotic for all)
Test prop-125mg eod 1-12wk
EQ-400mg/week 1-8wk
Tren Ace-50mg/eod 7-12wk
Adrol-50mg ed 1-5wk
Var-50mg ed 7-12wk
I appreciate any advice or adjustments y’all may throw my way.

Whats your height, weight, and bodyfat? Also what're your ideal stats, and how long have you been training? If you can tell us these things we can truly advise you. These are cruical to really helping you out, which we all want to do.

Right off the bat I'd tell you 12 weeks of orals is extremely poor advised. EQ is long acting, and that wouldn't do you justice in this short cycle. I agree with keeping the test low at this point, I've learned you don't need a whole lot.
I can also promise you Tren has more side effects than benefits and at 21, I know it can be tempting because I did it. But I promise you as tempting as it is, your body doesn't need it what so ever and you're going to make the same gains without it. Properly eating, training, and cycling the right compounds correctly. Also it's not a wonder drug, and carries more sides than benefits often times. If you're working it might even get you fired from your job. Straight up.

 

[Physique Demon]

View attachment 125324 View attachment 125323 Don’t listen to anyone here, you need to get swole and your second cycle is perfect to run multiple orals and you need to up everything above 1gram a week. I’ll make it easy for you, here is a very very basic 20 week cycle, just follow it exactly and you will get bigger by the day, promise....

Reminded me how trash rich pianas cycles were. I loved his persona, and he was an amazing guy in some ways, of course others not. But I still respected him. But he ran some really crap cycles. Almost like an elementary schooler designed them. You'd think he'd know what he was doing with his level of experience.

 

[LBreezey]

Whats your height, weight, and bodyfat? Also what're your ideal stats, and how long have you been training? If you can tell us these things we can truly advise you. These are cruical to really helping you out, which we all want to do.

Right off the bat I'd tell you 12 weeks of orals is extremely poor advised. EQ is long acting, and that wouldn't do you justice in this short cycle. I agree with keeping the test low at this point, I've learned you don't need a whole lot.
I can also promise you Tren has more side effects than benefits and at 21, I know it can be tempting because I did it. But I promise you as tempting as it is, your body doesn't need it what so ever and you're going to make the same gains without it. Properly eating, training, and cycling the right compounds correctly. Also it's not a wonder drug, and carries more sides than benefits often times. If you're working it might even get you fired from your job. Straight up.

Height-6’0
Weight 208
Bf- around 10-11%
Goal weight 235 although if I’m leaning I would like to see how far I can take it.
Been training for 3 years. Started out at 167
Only have 1 cycle under my belt which was test c and deca. Brought me from 195-220. But my weight slowly tapered down.

 

[Physique Demon]

Height-6’0
Weight 208
Bf- around 10-11%
Goal weight 235 although if I’m leaning I would like to see how far I can take it.
Been training for 3 years. Started out at 167
Only have 1 cycle under my belt which was test c and deca. Brought me from 195-220. But my weight slowly tapered down.

Ok just a little more information...
Are you trying to compete in classic or the open one day? I'm asking this question to help determine your motivation level, and how far your ambition really goes.

And Just to confirm you did a pct after the first cycle and still plan to pct? If you're leaning towards a successful pro career, than regardless of being 21 I'd recommend you stay on 200MG test off cycle as a TRT/cruise. That will save you much of the muscle lost of doing a PCT.
Now if you're doing this for a hobby, like most, than the PCT is better idea.

Regardless of the goals you have, id advise against tren except in cases of contest prep at a pro level.

For you sir, I'd stick to Test, EQ, Masteron, Deca, and primobolan. No orals.
There's nothing you can't get out of one of these injectables you won't be able to get out of an oral. Using injectables is far less taxing on your body generally speaking and you can get Alot more out of them over a longer cycle.

For you right now trying to grow I'd recommend the following cycle...

Test C 350 1-16
Nandrolone Deca 400 1-16
EQ 600 1-16

You'd do well on this, and your body really won't have very much issues tolerating this cycle.

On a cut I'd move towards...

350 Test C 1-12
600 Mast E 1-12
400-1G primo E 1-12

The kind of doses you'd run Definitely are goal dependant, also whether or not you may look to include hgh are again also goal dependant.

Lastly, understand that nothing comes without risk. Nothing comes without trade offs...

Do you have a family history of heart disease? So many in this field die from heart attacks. I can without a doubt tell you that your participation in this life will certainly increase your risk factors.

So with every goal you set, and with every decision you make. Ask yourself what you're willing to risk. Are you willing to leave this world potentially in your 30's or 40's? In bodybuilding we have people die almost month to month. Often at a young age. Yesterday we lost ifbb pro Scott mline, age 46. It's not uncommon that we've lost people in there 20's even. Wherever you go with this in the future and whatever your thoughts are, if nothing else get yourself an EKG and cardiovascular work up every 6 months. In addition do blood panels.