The test for SIBO is a breathing test. You have to fast prior to the test and once every few minutes for 1.5 hours you have to breath into a breathalyzer thing. It measures certain things in your breath which tells about your gut bacteria.
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Well then I can say positively I have not had a SIBO test. Had bunches of tests but never had to breathe into anything so yeah, that's definitely on my list to ask about.
Thanks for the guidance!
Hi @Kingsmountain we have this
I dated a girl with crohns, and have a good friend at work with crohns, and never have I heard of it being treated with haldol. Not buying the whole thread by the op.
The symptoms manifest in so many different ways with GI shit. Constant burping, indigestion, constipation, liquid shits for weeks on end, crazy fear of putting any food/water into your body, liquid blood pouring out of your ass, nausea, literally zero appetite, bloating beyond comprehension, need to have a restroom close, the list seemingly goes on for ever.
Some of these symptoms I've had in spades while others I've never experienced. Nausea, not once. Diarrhea, bloating, blood, zero appetite? Welcome to my world.
Some of what I dealt with was over the top bad, with some being moderate and a select few issues happened to be light. I had/have no control over any of it.
Haldol does have a medical history of use to remove or prevent nausea. It's not a GI drug, that's a 100% correct point, but it does have credence for being a med to treat one of the symptoms that manifest from having a serious GI problem.
I have a serious question about these GI problems. Are we accelerating issues with aas use? Are we creating issues that otherwise would have never developed with aas use? Personally, I've had a weaker gut my entire life but I've had a deceleration in stability for a few years now. While my anabolic use has been what it's been, my stress has also spiked which can exasperate things. What do you guys think?
Both people I knew were treated with biologics and went into remission.. not sure if anyone knows what causes it in the first place, but before biologics, the girl I dated, her major attacks were usually brought on by stress, and the treatment was hospital and iv Prednisone. The guy at work, had the first initial flare-up, went right to the biologics, missed a few months if work, and never had another attack
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I'm not sure if there is a smoking gun regarding the root cause. There's obviously factors that impact it though, as you mentioned stress. Stress plays a role in mine and when stressed I'm finding much smaller meals and/or intermittent fasting helps greatly.
Like a brain, the gut has so many things that can fall out of balance. I read OPs list of treatments and meds, and all I can think to myself is holy hell dude. And to still be looking for a fix after all that, fuck me. I'd be looking past the haldol and be requesting a frontal labotomy. I do believe it's going to be as simple as finding the real issue and treating it accordingly, and working through all of the pitfalls once he has found that root cause.
I'm pumped for the two folks you know. They got some good luck on their side, considering. Honestly, I've had it easy compared to some stories I've read. I didn't wait too long once it got bad.
Btw @Kingsmountain how's the bloating? Lower abdomen area?
I'm not sure if there is a smoking gun regarding the root cause. There's obviously factors that impact it though, as you mentioned stress. Stress plays a role in mine and when stressed I'm finding much smaller meals and/or intermittent fasting helps greatly.
Like a brain, the gut has so many things that can fall out of balance. I read OPs list of treatments and meds, and all I can think to myself is holy hell dude. And to still be looking for a fix after all that, fuck me. I'd be looking past the haldol and be requesting a frontal labotomy. I do believe it's going to be as simple as finding the real issue and treating it accordingly, and working through all of the pitfalls once he has found that root cause.
I'm pumped for the two folks you know. They got some good luck on their side, considering. Honestly, I've had it easy compared to some stories I've read. I didn't wait too long once it got bad.
Btw @Kingsmountain how's the bloating? Lower abdomen area?
What @ickyrica and @rpbb are saying is correct. Many of the medicines are treating symptoms as opposed to the actual cause. For example loperamide can help treat diarrhea associated with Crohns or UC but it does nothing to reduce the inflammation from the disease. If you can identify what is causing your nausea you can treat the root cause. Remicade, Entyvio, Azathioprine , 5ASA medications help to reduce the actual inflammation.
It is also possible to have SIBO and Crohns or UC. People with Crohns are actually much more likely to have SIBO compared to the population at large. If possible it might also be worth getting tested for lactose, fructose and gluten intolerance as well. While not being solely responsible they can contribute to the symptoms you are having as well.
In regards to AAS they don't really accelerate or cause the development of UC or Crohns. Many of these patients will be on TRT and some take anavar and deca for muscle wasting in severe cases.HGH has also been investigated as a treatment for UC and Crohns. Along these lines though if an oral or AAS causes GI upset then it will be more severe in a UC or Crohns patient because their GI tract is more fragile or sensitive. They don't actually increase inflammation though.
@ickyrica I don't know if you have ever seen the vertical diet by Stan Efferding. He is a pretty well known bodybuilder and powerlifter. The basic premise is that by eating similar or the same food each day your body becomes more efficient at digesting them allowing you to eat more without GI issues. This may be helpful when you said you were having trouble eating enough. We have had success in some patients with this although it was more just to prevent severe weight loss.
Again Im not trying to get in anyones personal business or tell anyone what to do I just thought iI would try to help if I could.
It is also possible to have SIBO and Crohns or UC. People with Crohns are actually much more likely to have SIBO compared to the population at large. If possible it might also be worth getting tested for lactose, fructose and gluten intolerance as well. While not being solely responsible they can contribute to the symptoms you are having as well.
In regards to AAS they don't really accelerate or cause the development of UC or Crohns. Many of these patients will be on TRT and some take anavar and deca for muscle wasting in severe cases.HGH has also been investigated as a treatment for UC and Crohns. Along these lines though if an oral or AAS causes GI upset then it will be more severe in a UC or Crohns patient because their GI tract is more fragile or sensitive. They don't actually increase inflammation though.
@ickyrica I don't know if you have ever seen the vertical diet by Stan Efferding. He is a pretty well known bodybuilder and powerlifter. The basic premise is that by eating similar or the same food each day your body becomes more efficient at digesting them allowing you to eat more without GI issues. This may be helpful when you said you were having trouble eating enough. We have had success in some patients with this although it was more just to prevent severe weight loss.
Again Im not trying to get in anyones personal business or tell anyone what to do I just thought iI would try to help if I could.
As fucked up of a subject as it is I'm willing to hear whatever anyone can contribute. Only gets better if you have more knowledge
not sure on gluten, but the other two are also breathing tests
Yeah lactose and fructose are breath. Gluten is blood.
It is obviously not the type of thing you would normally talk about or a weird thing to talk about but its easier to fix if you are more open about it.
@Kingsmountain I would also recommend finding the best GI doctor possible. I don't know where you live but this can save a lot of time and frustration with regards to wrong diagnoses or subpar treatment.
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I only need the Haldol/Benadryl in crisis ... i.e. when absolutely nothing else like Phenergan nor Zofran works. This usually is about once a month ... maybe twice. Administered @ 5mg/ 50mg respectively it stops the nausea and vomiting in its tracks. I am not looking to use it on the regular. Just in moments of crisis until I can get a correct diagnosis that will subdue my situation and make life bearable.
Well, even though ickyrica explained ... I'll still touch base on it ... Google "haldol for vomiting" maybe you will accept the administration of haldol for vomiting from an legit source. Or maybe not. That is up to you aND I can respect that.
Funny you should mention this. I wondered if AAS was exacerbating my condition as well so I dropped EVERYTHING for 4 months straight with zero change. I would think 120 days would be enough to clear out my system to substantiate the claim.
I feel bloated most of the day but my mid section doesn't look bloated. I have always battled a little distension though. Also, lower ab area stays tender.
Believe it or not, the GI I have is supposed to be the best in my area but I may have to look into another route.
I call bullshit, I think you're chasing anti psychotics. You're in the wrong forum
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Well, I can't change your mind and don't intend to even try.
It is what it is and we all have some sort of cross to bear so to speak. However, if you are so against people obtaining "anti psychotics" then you have a beef with a lot of the sources on this forum as they supply lots of these items. You should do more research and see for yourself.
You're full of shit, and no they don't. And I have extensive experience with people with Crohn's.
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Well, I bet at some point you have said to other members "I'm not going to spoon feed you" but I guess I will help you out.
In reference to haloperidol
Also, go to pctexpress and peruse their inventory.
Definitely get the lactose, fructose and sibo testing done. Xifaxan is the medicine for sibo, has a price tag to it even with a good insurance. Worth every penny though. Good luck man
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I'm definitely going to bring it up at my next GI visit. I'll research the Xifaxan in the meanwhile.
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