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Lol there are plenty of prog libs advocating for open borders. It’s beyond insane and asinine.
Like the sheep you are, of course you’ll think that because the only information you get is from Fox and friends and Facebook.

You should probably get up to speed on the actual topics being discussed there rather than spouting the bottom of the barrel conservative propaganda garbage. Hilarious how easily fox can get their base all hysterical.

It’s like when the theory of evolution was discovered, just takes one person to misrepresent what’s being said and you guys just roll with it like dogma


“We din’t come frum munkeys, I dun’t care wut dem scientists say”

Lol. Fricken conservatives will be left behind soon enough.
 
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You seriously just strawman everything.

First of all, just because their will always be dying and suffering doesn’t mean you can’t make it better. 10% of people dying and suffering is far better than 50%. I can’t believe I’d have to point that out to someone.

Second, illegal immigrants don’t work a day in their life? You’re the literal definition of an ignorant xenophobic idiot. Clearly you’ve never even tried to see things from their view. A little humility is what you need.
I wasn’t talking specifically about illegals with that. I was talking about all races who mooch off the system. Ahhhh and there goes the typical liberal name calling to anyone who has a different opinion. Wahhhhhhh you are a racist, waaahhh you are a bigot, waaahhh you are xenophobic, etc etc etc. Its literally all y’all have.
 


Mind you, the president is not interested in the science, in the details of addressing the epidemic, in hiring the right people or anything else with which normal presidents would concern themselves. He is interested that the markets are spooked, which could hurt his reelection chances. It never seems to occur to this crowd that if you hire the best people, stick to the facts and punish corruption and incompetence, the results will speak for themselves. But wasn’t this always Trump’s business style? Hype the steaks, sell chewy meat. Hype the airline, go bust. Hype the university, don’t deliver.

Meanwhile, Rush Limbaugh, recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Trump, promulgates a ludicrous conspiracy theory that the virus is a “weaponized” cold meant to bring down Trump. It is all about covering for Trump and blame-casting, the public good be damned.

Trump’s penchant for lying and self-promotion gives rise to the understandable concern that he is not telling us the truth about the virus, allowing scientists to speak openly or taking sufficiently bold action to stop what is becoming a fast-moving disaster. (“White House officials’ efforts to contain the economic fallout from the coronavirus have created new political hazards, as they publicly downplay the threat while other federal officials with a background in health and diseases are warning of more severe consequences for inaction.”) At times like this, you do wish loyalty were not the sole qualification for a job in the administration and that Trump’s reelection (which he pegs to the stock market) did not swamp basic issues of national security and public safety.

This is what authoritarian states do in a disaster (see: Chernobyl). The priority is on maintaining the facade of infallibility; the result is a worse disaster that would have been preventable had leaders understood the most valuable tool in disasters is often transparency and the free flow of quality information.

Trump has always treated natural disasters as platforms for photo-ops and self-congratulation (as in Alabama, where he is popular), or for carrying out vendettas (as when a mainly Democratic locale such as California or Puerto Rico is involved). We have learned that the disasters Trump touts (A caravan invasion!) can be less than what they appear. The pretexts for action (Imminent threat of attack by Iranian Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani!) do not always check out. The president’s priorities are often skewed so that legitimate needs (e.g., military housing) take precedence over his political stunts (the border wall). His budget cuts (e.g., foreign aid to countries from which refugees are fleeing) are often not aligned with our budget needs.
 


The connecting thread here is that in Trump’s worldview, the idea that government officials — and mediating institutions like the news media — can neutrally serve the public in good faith is treated as an impossibility. Everything is subject to corruption and manipulation in one direction or another, whether for Trump or against Trump.

If the media reports facts about coronavirus that Trump fears will damage him politically, or if officials follow procedures ensuring accountability in government — as the whistleblower and officials who testified to Congress about the Ukraine scheme did — these things can only constitute corruption in their own right, that is, corrupt plots against Trump.

All this justifies any and all efforts to corrupt government that Trump undertakes on his own behalf. Everyone is corrupt. All that matters is who wins or loses.
 
I wasn’t talking specifically about illegals with that. I was talking about all races who mooch off the system. Ahhhh and there goes the typical liberal name calling to anyone who has a different opinion. Wahhhhhhh you are a racist, waaahhh you are a bigot, waaahhh you are xenophobic, etc etc etc. Its literally all y’all have.

Lol. Yeah sure, ignore everything else I said.

You being xenophobic only helps my case as to why you’re wrong though, that’s what I was demonstrating.

You’re not fooling anyone here, bringing up immigrants and in the same breath complaining about people “mooching off the system”. Illegals immigrants are 10x more willing to work than anyone. They accept work that is far worse than the average American would accept. They have no choice otherwise.

Conservatives bashing people/systems put in place-like how you are-with minority dominance due to historical oppression and bigotry, is just a cover for you and others to continue perpetuating continued discrimination.

If people are “mooching” off the system than maybe we should address the reason they have to do that. Like you know, helping immigrants become legal and having social programs that lift up these people and not leave them to the side. Believe it or not a-generally speaking her-even if you’ve had a tough life, one thing that is true is at least the color of your skin and the place you were born, was not used against you.
 
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