What are the odds of getting "bunk" gear

[Popopo]

Hello people,

I'm new to this forum and relatively new to the world of AAS too. I'm wondering what are the odds of getting "bunk" gear? Assuming I have a reputable dealer that gives me testosterone cypionate from a well known UG lab. How reliable are these UG labs? In other words, what are the odds the 250mg/ml of test cypionate I have really contains only test cypionate and in the proper dosage? I sometimes read about under/overdosed gear or even that the vial contains a different substance than the label says. How common is this? And if I have a good source and get it from a good UG lab, is there any real risk? I'm located in Holland by the way and got testosterone cypionate one vial from Mactropin, the other vial from supreme pharmacy labs. On the dutch forum we aren't allowed to discuss brand names, so hope you guys can help me out. Thanks!

 

[Fattest_animal]

Honestly, a source can one day have overdosed gear and on the next order, have some underdosed gear.

You need to read the forums, find a source that seems trust worthy and, at the end of the day, get it tested if you want to know if your gear really has what it's supposed to have.

So yeah, good sources will test their products and try to maintain some good standards. Fun thing is, Meso is fucking strict with new sources... sadly, some people still get scammed or bunk gear... so it's your job to find a reliable source.

 

[mancal70]

Hello people,

I'm new to this forum and relatively new to the world of AAS too. I'm wondering what are the odds of getting "bunk" gear? Assuming I have a reputable dealer that gives me testosterone cypionate from a well known UG lab. How reliable are these UG labs? In other words, what are the odds the 250mg/ml of test cypionate I have really contains only test cypionate and in the proper dosage? I sometimes read about under/overdosed gear or even that the vial contains a different substance than the label says. How common is this? And if I have a good source and get it from a good UG lab, is there any real risk? I'm located in Holland by the way and got testosterone cypionate one vial from Mactropin, the other vial from supreme pharmacy labs. On the dutch forum we aren't allowed to discuss brand names, so hope you guys can help me out. Thanks!

Whom ever you buy from, it's worth spending the $ to have it tested. Don't trust anybody. Test your gear, budget for testing.

 

[T&H]

A lot of it depends on how much time you want to invest in researching a source before pulling the trigger. Spend time reading real reviews, bloodwork, lab work. If a source has all of that in line, chances are very low.

Many people will jump at the first source, then come here asking questions AFTER already buying. They obviously were too excited and didn't want to do the actual work beforehand.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Hello people,

I'm new to this forum and relatively new to the world of AAS too. I'm wondering what are the odds of getting "bunk" gear? Assuming I have a reputable dealer that gives me testosterone cypionate from a well known UG lab. How reliable are these UG labs? In other words, what are the odds the 250mg/ml of test cypionate I have really contains only test cypionate and in the proper dosage? I sometimes read about under/overdosed gear or even that the vial contains a different substance than the label says. How common is this? And if I have a good source and get it from a good UG lab, is there any real risk? I'm located in Holland by the way and got testosterone cypionate one vial from Mactropin, the other vial from supreme pharmacy labs. On the dutch forum we aren't allowed to discuss brand names, so hope you guys can help me out. Thanks!

You gotta go by trial and error like the rest of us. No hand outs. Do your own research.
Make an educated decision. Plus, no one can simply say there's a 28% chance you'll get bunk gear.
Also, it depends on what you're buying. Bunk test? Prob not. Bunk Primo that's actually Eq? A def possibility.

 

[Eman]

If I am going off of my personal experience for this estimate, it's a 0% chance.

 

[Popopo]

A lot of it depends on how much time you want to invest in researching a source before pulling the trigger. Spend time reading real reviews, bloodwork, lab work. If a source has all of that in line, chances are very low.

Many people will jump at the first source, then come here asking questions AFTER already buying. They obviously were too excited and didn't want to do the actual work beforehand.

Nah, I did do my research I'm just being a bit paranoid hence I'm asking this question. If I'm beinf honest I'm pretty sure it's the real deal as I have been on testosterone before and it was great. I guess I'm starting to overthink as I'm 2 weeks in and the effect hasn't kicked in yet but should in about one more week.

 

[HIGHRISK]

Nah, I did do my research I'm just being a bit paranoid hence I'm asking this question. If I'm beinf honest I'm pretty sure it's the real deal as I have been on testosterone before and it was great. I guess I'm starting to overthink as I'm 2 weeks in and the effect hasn't kicked in yet but should in about one more week.

2 weeks in and you’re disappointed? And no it won’t be one more week Lol come on man. Assuming you’re talking about test e or c its a minimum 4-6 weeks before you “feel” it “kick” in. Be patient and do bloodwork. You did do pre bloods right? That’s a good indicator if it’s bunk or underdosed. Pull bloods 6 weeks after you start and see what if looks like compared to your pre bloods. It’s not rocket science my friend. Be patient. Good luck

 

[bolder]

I’d say 16/4 odds

But like most are saying this is really all on you. Read the sources threads or go to the testing section and you can easily see who tests their products and also the members contributing with their own test reports and bloodwork.
All sources are not equal. It’s up to you to read as much as you can and make a decision with the information that’s provided within the threads.
Take your time and read before ordering anything and don’t take anyone’s word that a source is ever good to go.

Nah, I did do my research I'm just being a bit paranoid hence I'm asking this question. If I'm beinf honest I'm pretty sure it's the real deal as I have been on testosterone before and it was great. I guess I'm starting to overthink as I'm 2 weeks in and the effect hasn't kicked in yet but should in about one more week.

@HIGHRISK commented already you’re being a little impatient here. You have to give it time to work along with your nutrition and training.
If you ever have doubts on anything you’re running send it off for testing. The testing forum also has testers that provide this service. Once again you’ll have to read and decide which one is best for you to use.

 

[ickyrica]

Similar odds as Elizabeth Warren being a native American.

 

[Sp2.0]

Clear net = 100%

 

[HIGHRISK]

Similar odds as Elizabeth Warren being a native American.

Fkn literally lol

 

[HIGHRISK]

I’d say 16/4 odds

But like most are saying this is really all on you. Read the sources threads or go to the testing section and you can easily see who tests their products and also the members contributing with their own test reports and bloodwork.
All sources are not equal. It’s up to you to read as much as you can and make a decision with the information that’s provided within the threads.
Take your time and read before ordering anything and don’t take anyone’s word that a source is ever good to go.



@HIGHRISK commented already you’re being a little impatient here. You have to give it time to work along with your nutrition and training.
If you ever have doubts on anything you’re running send it off for testing. The testing forum also has testers that provide this service. Once again you’ll have to read and decide which one is best for you to use.

Bolder how you been my man? Good to see you around. Life’s been so busy for me I rarely get to stop here and talk shit lol. Hope all is well friend.

 

[biggerben69]

Bolder how you been my man? Good to see you around. Life’s been so busy for me I rarely get to stop here and talk shit lol. Hope all is well friend.

Liar..little harsh. Gotta respect a man who has his priorities in line....you had time to hit me up HR? My fragile ego loves getting a boost!
Getting an email out of the blue from a busy guy such as yourself reminds me that i gotta post up in threads started by noobs as well as those authored by hot shots like @Eman.

To the 25yr old OP...if you were here in the states I could speak intelligently on the state of affairs where ugl gear is concerned. Holland? Not so much.
Steroids? You're in Holland? Nevermind that nonsense. Lets talk about the prospects that exist for a new friend of yours from Southern, CA.
There are some sick airline deals coming down to world travelers.
I've handled this kind of thing many times. I'll pack up, say....2 and a half cycles worth of gear and ship the pkg ahead to myself.
I'll take care of the gear and you..hmmm. We'll sure things up in private.
My plans to visit Panda in China were nixed for obvious reasons. I was looking for a replacement vacay.
I've got a son your age. He crashed here at my place last night.
We're gonna have to keep busy. Its all i can do not to ring his neck lately.
Go ahead and forward some ideas you have to keep me entertained. It'll give me a clue as to the frame of mind of 25yr olds in Holland.
Panda had things getting a little to sideways for my taste. His taste doesn't approach the border of filth...he's waged an all out blitzkrieg on morality over there.
I use that as cover for my real concerns. I'm pretty sure Panda hates me. If he got me over there I bet he'd have transcripts of posts I've forgotten about. I'm at about 50 50 as to whether or not I'd make it back.
I'm not tagging him on purpose.

 

[enigma34]

Only bunk oil I got was from local buy. And orals I got bunk online few times . but to me under dosed is bunk and alot is under dosed. Pharmacom gear gave 1000 more on on bloods vs same does as most sources test prop. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

 

[HIGHRISK]

Liar..little harsh. Gotta respect a man who has his priorities in line....you had time to hit me up HR? My fragile ego loves getting a boost!
Getting an email out of the blue from a busy guy such as yourself reminds me that i gotta post up in threads started by noobs as well as those authored by hot shots like @Eman.

To the 25yr old OP...if you were here in the states I could speak intelligently on the state of affairs where ugl gear is concerned. Holland? Not so much.
Steroids? You're in Holland? Nevermind that nonsense. Lets talk about the prospects that exist for a new friend of yours from Southern, CA.
There are some sick airline deals coming down to world travelers.
I've handled this kind of thing many times. I'll pack up, say....2 and a half cycles worth of gear and ship the pkg ahead to myself.
I'll take care of the gear and you..hmmm. We'll sure things up in private.
My plans to visit Panda in China were nixed for obvious reasons. I was looking for a replacement vacay.
I've got a son your age. He crashed here at my place last night.
We're gonna have to keep busy. Its all i can do not to ring his neck lately.
Go ahead and forward some ideas you have to keep me entertained. It'll give me a clue as to the frame of mind of 25yr olds in Holland.
Panda had things getting a little to sideways for my taste. His taste doesn't approach the border of filth...he's waged an all out blitzkrieg on morality over there.
I use that as cover for my real concerns. I'm pretty sure Panda hates me. If he got me over there I bet he'd have transcripts of posts I've forgotten about. I'm at about 50 50 as to whether or not I'd make it back.
I'm not tagging him on purpose.

I Always have time for you my friend . Email or pm seems to be the best way to contact guys here lately. It keeps our conversations private even if it’s just shooting the shit. Hope all is well BB. We’ll talk soon.

 

[Savagesteve]

Only bunk oil I got was from local buy. And orals I got bunk online few times . but to me under dosed is bunk and alot is under dosed. Pharmacom gear gave 1000 more on on bloods vs same does as most sources test prop. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I also got bunk shit from a local guy who went through a ugl online. It had the nicest labels, boxes, and presentation, yet was pure oil and the orals I swear we’re pressed chalk lol. Just shows that the labels and look of the gear doesn't mean anything.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

I also got bunk shit from a local guy who went through a ugl online. It had the nicest labels, boxes, and presentation, yet was pure oil and the orals I swear we’re pressed chalk lol. Just shows that the labels and look of the gear doesn't mean anything.

The only time I ever had any real issues was buying locally off a friend. He brewed a batch of Test Cyp and the raws weren't good or he couldn't brew. Turns out it was dosed at maybe half of what was intended. He bought it back so technically I didnt get beat I guess but I sure wasted 6 weeks of pinning for very little. I've even got lucky once and bought a bunch of Kalpa Pharm shit that turned put pretty good despite all the hit or miss reviews they had.

 

[bolder]

Bolder how you been my man? Good to see you around. Life’s been so busy for me I rarely get to stop here and talk shit lol. Hope all is well friend.

All is good in bolderland bro lol. I haven’t been on a whole lot lately either. I still read every couple days but only post when I think it’s necessary. Glad to hear you’re doing well bro! Being busy is never a bad thing , idle hands are the devil’s playground

 

[Popopo]

Thanks for the replies guys. You're right.. I am being a bit impatient. And I'm also pretty sure I have proper gear, just don't know 100% sure. Then again, you guys can't be 100% sure my gear is legit either so it's kind of a silly question. Nevertheless I still appreciate the answers I got so far.