FIRST BREW RESULT

[ZKJ]

Hi i just done my first homebrew, all seemed to go fine except when i drew up into the syringe, instead of 50ml there was around 45ml.
I followed the steps of put powder in beaker, add 1ml of BA add 10ml of BB then pour mct oil into beaker to the 50ml line.
Is that the best way or can you measure 39ml of mct oil out or do you have to account for the powder?
I dont mind a little loss but i would like to get my dose as accurate as possible as now it wont be 250mg a ml it will be a little more.not the end of the world i know but i would like to have accurate dosing.

Also another thing i probably should of asked before but should you wait for it too cool down before vialing (into sterile vial)
I noticed a pressure of air come out after removing needle when done.

Cheers

 

[ickyrica]

How much powder did you use? What's the anabolic being used? Did you use 39ml of mct oil or is that what the calculator said you needed?

Yes, powder accounts for volume.

No, do not filter hot oil. Filters have temperature specs, adhere to them. Slightly warm oil has never been an issue for me.

Yes, the filter will retain a little oil but 5ml seems drastic

 

[ZKJ]

How much powder did you use? What's the anabolic being used? Did you use 39ml of mct oil or is that what the calculator said you needed?

Yes, powder accounts for volume.

No, do not filter hot oil. Filters have temperature specs, adhere to them. Slightly warm oil has never been an issue for me.

Yes, the filter will retain a little oil but 5ml seems drastic

Hi the recipe (or synthesis not sure) was 25g of test e and 100ml of oil,
I just done half as the vials are 50ml and i didnt want a second vial sat open for a long time, would rather dk a new batch for each vial as it would only cost a few syringes and a filter more.
So 12.5g if test e, 1ml of BA instead of 2ml, 10ml od BB instead of 20ml.
Then it said pour in carrier oil into the beaker untill the 50ml line.
I thought this was to account for the powder taking up volume.
And it wasnt even after putting it through the syringe that i lost 5ml. I drew up the finished oil into a 60ml syringe before putting filter on, and there was only 45ml, and i did fill it to the 50ml exactly in the beaker, should you fill it and wait a sec for powder to breakdown and check if it has gone down abit? Maybe even heat and stir so its all done then refill to the 50ml line.
Wish i checked after heating what it was at then.

 

[ickyrica]

Hi the recipe (or synthesis not sure) was 25g of test e and 100ml of oil,
I just done half as the vials are 50ml and i didnt want a second vial sat open for a long time, would rather dk a new batch for each vial as it would only cost a few syringes and a filter more.
So 12.5g if test e, 1ml of BA instead of 2ml, 10ml od BB instead of 20ml.
Then it said pour in carrier oil into the beaker untill the 50ml line.
I thought this was to account for the powder taking up volume.
And it wasnt even after putting it through the syringe that i lost 5ml. I drew up the finished oil into a 60ml syringe before putting filter on, and there was only 45ml, and i did fill it to the 50ml exactly in the beaker, should you fill it and wait a sec for powder to breakdown and check if it has gone down abit? Maybe even heat and stir so its all done then refill to the 50ml line.
Wish i checked after heating what it was at then.

It was cool when you checked volume? If it's warm it will expand a bit, possible to give you a slightly larger volume in that case

 

[ZKJ]

It was cool when you checked volume? If it's warm it will expand a bit, possible to give you a slightly larger volume in that case

Ahh na it was cool the first time i checked and was at 50ml exactly. I was thinking thinking maybe after soaking into powder a bit it might go down then?
Maybe heat and mix, wait for it to cool then check and if its gone down top it up abit will more carrier oil. If i did would i need to reheat or isit fine as already dissolved.

 

[ickyrica]

Powder will add volume to the total under any circumstance. Your powder volume total should have been somewhere near 10ml, probably a little over that.

If your 'powder used' to 'total volume of oil needed' is accurate for a final mg level, all you do is add the BB/BA and carrier until your volume is hit (% depends on what you brew).

If you're sure you used the correct amount of BB and BA and raws, you probably shorted the carrier a little.

I used to brew a little bit back in the day and have brewed a fair amount of different anabolics, and even feeling very comfortable with my skills mistakes can happen.

On the bright side, if you have 5ml less carrier you now have 10% overdosed gear. But, playing devil's advocate you could say the BB was potentially missed, leaving you with a 5ml shortage. You could add 5ml of BB to play it safe, leaving you with 20% BB if you were short on the carrier.

Always so many things to ponder...

 

[ickyrica]

Hi the recipe (or synthesis not sure) was 25g of test e and 100ml of oil,
I just done half as the vials are 50ml and i didnt want a second vial sat open for a long time, would rather dk a new batch for each vial as it would only cost a few syringes and a filter more.
So 12.5g if test e, 1ml of BA instead of 2ml, 10ml od BB instead of 20ml.
Then it said pour in carrier oil into the beaker untill the 50ml line.
I thought this was to account for the powder taking up volume.
And it wasnt even after putting it through the syringe that i lost 5ml. I drew up the finished oil into a 60ml syringe before putting filter on, and there was only 45ml, and i did fill it to the 50ml exactly in the beaker, should you fill it and wait a sec for powder to breakdown and check if it has gone down abit? Maybe even heat and stir so its all done then refill to the 50ml line.
Wish i checked after heating what it was at then.

I read this again. Your beaker isn't correct. Use a 60ml syringe and fill it up to 50ml with water. Put that in your beaker. What does it fill based on the beaker reading?

 

[ickyrica]

With that being said, you're 10% overdosed

 

[little]

With that being said, you're 10% overdosed

Is a good way to not run into a raw displacement issue to, mix your raw, ba and bb and a bit of carrier, then you would be able to see exactly how much more carrier oil to add to get your desired mg and volume?

 

[ickyrica]

Is a good way to not run into a raw displacement issue to, mix your raw, ba and bb and a bit of carrier, then you would be able to see exactly how much more carrier oil to add to get your desired mg and volume?

For starters make sure your glassware measurements are accurate, but yes. You're on a successful path.

 

[monichi]

I noticed a pressure of air come out after removing needle when done.

Have you put 2 needles when you were filtering ?
Like on this picture below ?

 

[ZKJ]

Have you put 2 needles when you were filtering ?
Like on this picture below ?
View attachment 127678

No,does that solve the air pressure?

 

[ZKJ]

For starters make sure your glassware measurements are accurate, but yes. You're on a successful path.

Cheers man,yeah i did think that but thought surely they would get the marking right lol but i will try and see.cheers for the help

 

[little]

No,does that solve the air pressure?

It does

just allows oil to go in and and air go out

 

[ZKJ]

For starters make sure your glassware measurements are accurate, but yes. You're on a successful path.

Dam looks like they didnt get em right its quite abit over the line, suppose thats my fault for cheaping out n getting em from china. Dam u china, first covid 19 and now this lol

 

[ZKJ]

It does

just allows oil to go in and and air go out

Cheers, you learn something new everyday

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Hi the recipe (or synthesis not sure) was 25g of test e and 100ml of oil,
I just done half as the vials are 50ml and i didnt want a second vial sat open for a long time, would rather dk a new batch for each vial as it would only cost a few syringes and a filter more.
So 12.5g if test e, 1ml of BA instead of 2ml, 10ml od BB instead of 20ml.
Then it said pour in carrier oil into the beaker untill the 50ml line.
I thought this was to account for the powder taking up volume.
And it wasnt even after putting it through the syringe that i lost 5ml. I drew up the finished oil into a 60ml syringe before putting filter on, and there was only 45ml, and i did fill it to the 50ml exactly in the beaker, should you fill it and wait a sec for powder to breakdown and check if it has gone down abit? Maybe even heat and stir so its all done then refill to the 50ml line.
Wish i checked after heating what it was at then.

[emoji2357] Congratulations, you heated off your BA and BB. You need to add that AFTER heating your raws and oil and letting that cool down.

Start over unless you want to add the BA again in full and the remainder as BB but that might end up having pretty bad PIP. [emoji2369]

 

[little]

[emoji2357] Congratulations, you heated off your BA and BB. You need to add that AFTER heating your raws and oil and letting that cool down.

Start over unless you want to add the BA again in full and the remainder as BB but that might end up having pretty bad PIP. [emoji2369]

well damnit bbbg you fucking threw my theory out with that post

 

[Iron Vett]

Actually, it’s pretty hard to boil off benzyl alcohol and Benzyl Benzoate. Boiling point of BA Is around 200°F. Flashpoint of BA is around 400°F. BB temps are quite high as well. I melt powders in BB alone up to 125-150° F, typically, until all powder is in solution. Then add most of the oil and bring back up to temp required for the BB and powder then turn off heat and add BA and remainder of carrier oil once it begins to cool. Filter at 120°F

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Actually, it’s pretty hard to boil off benzyl alcohol and Benzyl Benzoate. Boiling point of BA Is around 200°F. Flashpoint of BA is around 400°F. BB temps are quite high as well. I melt powders in BB alone up to 125-150° F, typically, until all powder is in solution. Then add most of the oil and bring back up to temp required for the BB and powder then turn off heat and add BA and remainder of carrier oil once it begins to cool. Filter at 120°F

Well fuck, [emoji2369] I don’t know where his missing 5 ml went then.