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Low dose cycle - test/NPP

ToastEater said:
Gentlemen. The best cycle is test suspension every 8 hours for 27 weeks. Period. Run that at 50mg/shot. Combine that with tren ace and deca at 1500mg each/wk. Perhaps some HCG and about 400iu of HGH daily split into bi-hourly dosages. Whatever you do tho, avoid stuffing vials into your ass before you go to jail. That’s wack.
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Now that’s a cycle I can dig a pin into.
 
thinman said:
Hey guys,

Any of you that are on TRT incorporate other compounds for a “blast”, albeit at low doses. I’m thinking about running 300mg test with 300mg NPP. I’ll likely only run the NPP for 8 weeks and continue on with test, maybe bumping it up until week 12 when I go back to my TRT dose of 150mg per week.

I’ve been on a cut, trying to get body fat levels down before bulking during my next “blast”.

Any input is appreciated. I’m not looking to turn pro, just have a respectable physique. My main focus is of course diet and training, while using the lowest effective dosages as possible.
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I think your best bet is to maintain your test dose constant at 150mg per week and add other compounds on top of it. Then you don't have to stay so long at a test level other than 150mg weekly if this level has indeed been working for you. Just adding 300mg of NPP can make a big big big difference. IMO you don't need the extra test. I'm on TRT at 130mg per week and I have been using 200mg of Primo on top of that and I have to tell you that it feels not so much different than my old cycling days long ago. I am going to get bloodwork in 4 weeks (that will be 8 weeks of primo total) and if my bloodwork is fine I may just stay on 130mg of test and 200 Primo indefinitely.
 
EazyE said:
I tend to agree with @Oldschool that there is no need to run a nandrolone compound for 20 weeks. Recovery/PCT will be very difficult The only compounds that I would run for that duration are long esterTest compounds. I have run EQ at 16 weeks as have many others. Many run Primo up to 16 weeks. But NPP I like 10-12 weeks max. You could get by on 8. All depends on your goals.
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The OP is on TRT this recovery/PCT doesn't matter.
 
jtmarlin said:
I think your best bet is to maintain your test dose constant at 150mg per week and add other compounds on top of it. Then you don't have to stay so long at a test level other than 150mg weekly if this level has indeed been working for you. Just adding 300mg of NPP can make a big big big difference. IMO you don't need the extra test. I'm on TRT at 130mg per week and I have been using 200mg of Primo on top of that and I have to tell you that it feels not so much different than my old cycling days long ago. I am going to get bloodwork in 4 weeks (that will be 8 weeks of primo total) and if my bloodwork is fine I may just stay on 130mg of test and 200 Primo indefinitely.
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Primo and NPP are completely different though, primo is more than fine to add to a trt dose at a higher mg dosage than test but NPP run higher than test for a lot of people is a recipe for deca dick and low libido. Chances are he’ll feel much better with the added test. Just my 2 cents
 
ToastEater said:
Gentlemen. The best cycle is test suspension every 8 hours for 27 weeks. Period. Run that at 50mg/shot. Combine that with tren ace and deca at 1500mg each/wk. Perhaps some HCG and about 400iu of HGH daily split into bi-hourly dosages. Whatever you do tho, avoid stuffing vials into your ass before you go to jail. That’s wack.
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What would 400iu do to a person?

4iu makes me sick
 
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Spokeonawheel said:
What is this? A completely rational post?

Your not gonna run tren E for a year?

The cops aren't inspecting your balls?

Your not trying to shove gear up your ass for your jail visit?

It's like youre not even trying....



Seriously though, you've got a great approach and this sounds quite reasonable.

Keep diet and training first, make the most of your gear. Maybe log your cycle in the cycle forum? I'll sub.
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HAHAHA, I am still waiting for " What's better to take before looting, rioting and protesting: Halo or mtren?" Lmao I have a feeling we will see it soon

And I agree that this cycle looks very reasonable and responsible. Low doses are always the way to go .
 
Bobthebencher said:
Primo and NPP are completely different though, primo is more than fine to add to a trt dose at a higher mg dosage than test but NPP run higher than test for a lot of people is a recipe for deca dick and low libido. Chances are he’ll feel much better with the added test. Just my 2 cents
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in my experience deca dick can happen for 2 reasons

1) someone takes deca only and the androgenic component of it isn't enough for them to have an adequate sex drive
2) they have some sort of prolactin response

Once one has enough of a testosterone base 100mg per week is more than sufficient for most men, the only thing that can really mess with the libido out side of aggressive dieting etc are big estrogen or prolactin changes. If you are going to have problems with nandrolone while using a test base just adding more test isn't going to fix it... it will probably make it worse because you'll have to control the 5AR components of the extra test.
 
jtmarlin said:
in my experience deca dick can happen for 2 reasons

1) someone takes deca only and the androgenic component of it isn't enough for them to have an adequate sex drive
2) they have some sort of prolactin response

Once one has enough of a testosterone base 100mg per week is more than sufficient for most men, the only thing that can really mess with the libido out side of aggressive dieting etc are big estrogen or prolactin changes. If you are going to have problems with nandrolone while using a test base just adding more test isn't going to fix it... it will probably make it worse because you'll have to control the 5AR components of the extra test.
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Yup
Especially if someone cant dial in their estro.
If their estro is high, your asking for some elevated prolactin levels.

But it's all quite individual.

I can run high estro and deca with no issues
 
jtmarlin said:
in my experience deca dick can happen for 2 reasons
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Well there’s more than two reason. I don’t disagree with your statement but lots of people run into deca dick on trt dose and upping the test 9/10 will solve the problem. It’s a rule of thumb per se to run test higher than deca usually at a 2:1 ratio to avoid deca dick and negative mental sides. That’s not necessary for some people but for majority of people I find that’s the best way to run it to avoid sides. Prolactin won’t be a problem if ai is dialed in on the test dose properly either
 
Bobthebencher said:
Well there’s more than two reason. I don’t disagree with your statement but lots of people run into deca dick on trt dose and upping the test 9/10 will solve the problem. It’s a rule of thumb per se to run test higher than deca usually at a 2:1 ratio to avoid deca dick and negative mental sides. That’s not necessary for some people but for majority of people I find that’s the best way to run it to avoid sides. Prolactin won’t be a problem if ai is dialed in on the test dose properly either
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1:1 works as well. (For me at least)
When in doubt, add Mast or Proviron.
 
Silentlemon1011 said:
1:1 works as well. (For me at least)
When in doubt, add Mast or Proviron.
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See I wish that worked for me, my pp is fucking useless at that ratio lol. 5:4 or 5:3 I can run and still be good but as soon as I match doses it doesn’t work no more. My next cycle I have planned out was gonna be 500 test 400 npp 250 mast so maybe I’ll try the npp at 500 and the mast may help with that
 
Bobthebencher said:
See I wish that worked for me, my pp is fucking useless at that ratio lol. 5:4 or 5:3 I can run and still be good but as soon as I match doses it doesn’t work no more. My next cycle I have planned out was gonna be 500 test 400 npp 250 mast so maybe I’ll try the npp at 500 and the mast may help with that
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At lest my dick works on Deca?
 
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