Balkan vs Bayer primo

[janoshik]

Frankly, if you get wildly different results from tested UGL primo vs untested Bayers, the most likely reason is that it's because the Rimos ain't primo... They often contain stuff like test P etc, which, frankly, simply works better....

And as often those are just filtered cooking oil... and then you see anecdotal reviews on how very mild primo is and it doesn't worsen bloods at all even at 1g/wk )

Because when you fill 1 ml amps with cooking oil, even if the cops come, you aint doing anything illegal, so they drop the case. Its very hard to make a case out of that. So it's zero risk, high reward scamming.... Lots of PERFECT pharma fakes out there for that reason.

 

[janoshik]

And that kind of scammers ain't gonna drop it... They have some, rather expensive machinery and they aint gonna lay it waste. So you'll always have a LOT of fakes floating around...

They have their own shops, but they try to sell to 'retailers' - distributors too.

The major resellers have learned early on to test all 'pharma' gear they be buying from sketchy sources... All them Rimo's, Galenikas, Provirons etc...

 

[janoshik]

This may be more than the question that was asked, but I'm feeling particularly ben today.

 

[Grozny]

imo its still possible to buy genuine pharma primo like from mexico, turkey or thailand.

there is no way to get any legit primo from Europe (EU) espacially on bulk quantity's. it will be probably " a good copie".

 

[MuscleFreak]

I 100% believe this. I've heard this about running vet grade eq. Less dose, better gains and none of the strange eq side effects

Exactly,at only 100mg every other day my muscles are full and round, pumps are crazy, vascularity etc nobody can tell me different...i have used many ugs primo and never get the same effect... original bayer at higerz dosages gives me similar look like tren e but with zero sides...only problem that it is very expensive

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Because pharma uses magic raws?
Same shit, bro. Your 200 mg/ml is either underdosed or bunk or you're giving into placebo effect.

There’s always been reports that Bayer has a top secret factory deep in the Black Forest in Germany. Nobody knows what goes on in the factory but many people have seen elves come and go. There’s also a few reports of unicorns gone missing in the area. This has led many to believe that the elves get primo from the freshly squeezened unicorns.

Personally I don’t believe it and the people are full of shit. I know rimobolan is manufactured in Iowa from the tears of magic fairies. Don’t let anyone tell you differently.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

There’s always been reports that Bayer has a top secret factory deep in the Black Forest in Germany. Nobody knows what goes on in the factory but many people have seen elves come and go. There’s also a few reports of unicorns gone missing in the area. This has led many to believe that the elves get primo from the freshly squeezened unicorns.

Personally I don’t believe it and the people are full of shit. I know rimobolan is manufactured in Iowa from the tears of magic fairies. Don’t let anyone tell you differently.

100mg/ml HPLC tested UGL
is exactly the same as Bayer Rinos at 100mg/ml

There is no difference other than carrier oil and the use of BA/BB etc.(Hows shes brewed)

Chemistry (Science) tells us this definitively.

Surr a UGL may have to put 5%More raw powder to achieve the dosage.

That being said.... I don't even believe that.
Rimos have come in at 93mg/ml for legit, from the pharmacist on other boards.

Gear is gear.

The main factor for purchasing Pharma would be knowing you're getting a qaulity product that is up to FDA(Or any other local agencies) standards for quality and cleanliness.

It's literally science.

There are very particular and unusual differences in RARE occasions, like the use of Castor oil in Pharma Undecoanate, allowing for a longer time release.

Like you said BBBG
There are no elves and unicorns that make the same molecule react differently based on who turned it from raw into oil.

I'm surprised in this day and age that this argument is still being circulated.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

That being said
As a disclaimer.
I dont care about anyones preference.
Not here to knock what someone likes or doesnt, that's a personal choice.

But strictly speaking in terms of chemistry, there is no difference, for those that prefer Pharma...
Do you brothers.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

100mg/ml HPLC tested UGL
is exactly the same as Bayer Rinos at 100mg/ml

There is no difference other than carrier oil and the use of BA/BB etc.(Hows shes brewed)

Chemistry (Science) tells us this definitively.

Surr a UGL may have to put 5%More raw powder to achieve the dosage.

That being said.... I don't even believe that.
Rimos have come in at 93mg/ml for legit, from the pharmacist on other boards.

Gear is gear.

The main factor for purchasing Pharma would be knowing you're getting a qaulity product that is up to FDA(Or any other local agencies) standards for quality and cleanliness.

It's literally science.

There are very particular and unusual differences in RARE occasions, like the use of Castor oil in Pharma Undecoanate, allowing for a longer time release.

Like you said BBBG
There are no elves and unicorns that make the same molecule react differently based on who turned it from raw into oil.

I'm surprised in this day and age that this argument is still being circulated.

You can keep your crazy “science” I believe in fairies, elves and unicorns and that’s why I get all kinds of gainzzz feelzzz and bonerzzz! There’s a difference I tellzzz you.

 

[Grozny]

Pharm only. I know it’s properly dosed, high quality, sterility will never be an issue, no harmful additives will be used without my knowledge; and it will be produced in an “actual” lab with clean rooms etc. I’m sure some UG labs put out a fine product. But, why gamble with the cost to health ratio.

 

[17Alpha]

I 100% believe this. I've heard this about running vet grade eq. Less dose, better gains and none of the strange eq side effects

Thats probadly more because the amount of oil you would need to inject with 50mg/ml as standard vet dose and and one of those 1200mg EQ cycles is kinda high and expensive so people use less

 

[Avnj5]

As many fakes that are out there it’s not that hard to find legit bayer rimo. You would have much harder time to find legit bayer Testoviron for example. It’s just not available in steroid friendly source countries. You just need to get it in the box so you can scan the code and make sure Serials are not duplicates. But I give Balkan much more credit than a ugl homemade samovar type operation. Of course it’s not bayer. But there is some standard in place and products have always been good to me from them

 

[Jerry5000]

Does primo make anyone else temper mental lol ?

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I'm surprised in this day and age that this argument is still being circulated.

It's like putting a hundred dollar bill and 2 fifty dollar bills side by side and having someone tell you that one is worth more than the other somehow.

 

[Jerry5000]

It's like putting a hundred dollar bill and 2 fifty dollar bills side by side and having someone tell you that one is worth more than the other somehow.

Domestic has good Bayer rimo

 

[wildfuchs]

Pharm only. I know it’s properly dosed, high quality, sterility will never be an issue, no harmful additives will be used without my knowledge; and it will be produced in an “actual” lab with clean rooms etc. I’m sure some UG labs put out a fine product. But, why gamble with the cost to health ratio.

you better be eating only the finest grass-finished beef and wildest of salmons from the cleanest of waters because the trash 99% of people put into their mouths daily is a bigger gamble with their health than injecting ugl gear.

what you don't know is that pharma gear isn't necessarily properly dosed, they tolerate a degree of variance any source would get buried for if it showed up on testing here.

guys still believing in the magic of pharma are like those still clinging to the american dream or other fairy tales from last century.

 

[jtmarlin]

As many fakes that are out there it’s not that hard to find legit bayer rimo. You would have much harder time to find legit bayer Testoviron for example. It’s just not available in steroid friendly source countries. You just need to get it in the box so you can scan the code and make sure Serials are not duplicates. But I give Balkan much more credit than a ugl homemade samovar type operation. Of course it’s not bayer. But there is some standard in place and products have always been good to me from them

I don't even think you need the boxes but I may be wrong. Bayer primo has an undeniable sweet smell and the oil is so thick that it gets consistently stuck in the top of the amp and must be drawn from there as well after snapping. Smell + oil in top of amp = real Bayer Primo.

 

[Jerry5000]

Is castor oil if legit rimobolan

 

[Avnj5]

I don't even think you need the boxes but I may be wrong. Bayer primo has an undeniable sweet smell and the oil is so thick that it gets consistently stuck in the top of the amp and must be drawn from there as well after snapping. Smell + oil in top of amp = real Bayer Primo.

Omnadren has a smell. Sometimes u can smell once snap it open. Balkan has a smell. I smell all of my amps lol. Fakes don’t have these aromas haha.

 

[ZeusNick]

I honestly would go with Balkan where you can verify serials and have a higher chance of actually buying from the lab.

To anyone saying you can verify Bayer Primo by the smell and thick viscosity... I’ll sell you some “Bayer” amps of my sweet piss mixed with some baking powder to make it nice and thick... some prime Bayer Primo for you all. Haha