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[AliceInGains]

Gyms have been shutdown for a while gonna be opening back up soon hopefully just been doing some resistance band stuff pull ups pushups, here’s a cycle I’ve ran a couple times but adding a couple things, see if I could get some input from you guys about it

Age:30s
Height: 6’1
Weight: 235
BF: 11%

Week 1-12———TestP 1ml ED= 700mg week
Week 1-8———-MastP .6ml ED=420mg week
Week 1-8———-TrenA .8ml ED=560mg week
Week 1-4——DbolInjct .5ml ED=350mg week
Week 9-12——HCG 500iu EOD=1500IU week
Week 12-16?——clmid/nolv 100/40 ED
Week 12-16——Aromasin25mg=175mg week

So I have been reading some different things about HCG timing. Would you guys recommend taking HCG at the time I have listed for those doses or higher doses? I have also read some PCT threads on here that say timing on PCT should actually be before cycle ends possibly overlap with HCG? Any thoughts on this as well? I will possibly take clomid and Aromasin a couple few times a week during the beginning of cycle it helps with aromatizing from tren and dbol. Any input would be greatly appreciated

 

[Eman]

HCG is okay... I would wait another week to start PCT... Don't take aromasin during PCT.

 

[AliceInGains]

HCG is okay... I would wait another week to start PCT... Don't take aromasin during PCT.

okay awesome I appreciate it man, you think everything is looks good? I can run Aromasin during HCG though? I do tend to get knots under my nipples when I take tren and dbol and Aromasin seems to help quite a bit, is it fine to take earlier on in the cycle to keep the knots down? Again appreciate any and all help

my natural T is like 198ng/dL and free T is 5.4 I am afraid maybe I didn’t get my nuts all the way back on last cycle by not taking enough HCG

 

[Eman]

okay awesome I appreciate it man, you think everything is looks good? I can run Aromasin during HCG though? I do tend to get knots under my nipples when I take tren and dbol and Aromasin seems to help quite a bit, is it fine to take earlier on in the cycle to keep the knots down? Again appreciate any and all help

You can take it during your cycle... There's just no reason to take it during PCT.

my natural T is like 198ng/dL and free T is 5.4 I am afraid maybe I didn’t get my nuts all the way back on last cycle by not taking enough HCG

Yikes, that's a concern. What was your baseline testosterone level? How long ago was your last cycle?

 

[Silentlemon1011]

You can take it during your cycle... There's just no reason to take it during PCT.



Yikes, that's a concern. What was your baseline testosterone level? How long ago was your last cycle?

I read somewhere that kickstarting a PCT with an AI can be beneficial to restarting HPTA
(Not just an AI throughout PCT.. Just a kickstart to shock HPTA)

I wish I remembered who kn Meso told me this.
Might have been @Old

Was good info,
I just can't fit all this tuff inside my little dinosaur brain.

 

[AliceInGains]

You can take it during your cycle... There's just no reason to take it during PCT.



Yikes, that's a concern. What was your baseline testosterone level? How long ago was your last cycle?

** my last cycle was about 8-9 months ago where I was sitting at 260ng/dl prior to starting**

I will probably take it during cycle and then maybe just for a week during PCT, well that’s the thing my baseline testosterone was 260ng/dL I had 10 years of hardcore drug use IV uppers and downers, I had taken AAS when I was younger but mainly just test only cycles and only a few, well I got clean about 4 years ago and started back into gear I always loved lifting weights and it’s a healthy outlet for me, well my veins are destroyed to this day they can draw blood but it’s a little difficult, so for the first couple years clean going on AAS I just went by what I read offline running testP, mastP, TrenA then taking PCT for about a month but I didn’t find out about HCG until a couple years ago, long story short I am hoping that the couple years I ran tren and masteron without HCG coming off didn’t destroy my natural tesosterone, whenever I told my dr. he thought my history of drug abuse mainly opiates contributed to my low testosterone production, seriously do appreciate your input I have seen you give lots of good info in other posts.

I read somewhere that kickstarting a PCT with an AI can be beneficial to restarting HPTA
(Not just an AI throughout PCT.. Just a kickstart to shock HPTA)

I wish I remembered who kn Meso told me this.
Might have been @Old

Was good info,
I just can't fit all this tuff inside my little dinosaur brain.

I will look into that I don’t think it would hurt running an AI for the first week on PCT, I appreciate your input bro

 

[Eman]

I read somewhere that kickstarting a PCT with an AI can be beneficial to restarting HPTA
(Not just an AI throughout PCT.. Just a kickstart to shock HPTA)

I wish I remembered who kn Meso told me this.
Might have been @Old

Was good info,
I just can't fit all this tuff inside my little dinosaur brain.

It's kind of an old school method, I think. I think Anthony or Bill Roberts might have started it. Drop estrogen to increase testosterone...

Just really not needed when there's SERMs and HCG involved.

 

[AliceInGains]

It's kind of an old school method, I think. I think Anthony or Bill Roberts might have started it. Drop estrogen to increase testosterone...

Just really not needed when there's SERMs and HCG involved.

i appreciate the responses, I won’t worry so much while I’m running SERMS but focus it more during the period I am running tren/mast week 1-8, do you think that running my SERMS 100mg clomid/40mg nolva week 12-16 is good? I think I read dr scally say not to drop doses for example preciously I had ran PCT at 150mg clomid first week 100mg week 2-3 then 50mg week 4 but from what I understand from reading power pct or whatever it is called it’s better to keep the same consistent dose during the whole time instead of going higher to lower. Am I correct in assuming that it’s better to run 100mg clomid/40mg nolva through the entirety of PCT?

 

[All Nats McGee]

If you were getting knots last time you used dbol I wouldn’t touch it. A lot of people myself included get massive gyno flair ups from dbol. You might of got rid of it the first time but maybe the next time you won’t be so lucky. I would use a different oral kick starter if I were you.

 

[Wonderman]

I nip tuck you for 3k, I watch my procedure.

If you were getting knots last time you used dbol I wouldn’t touch it. A lot of people myself included get massive gyno flair ups from dbol. You might of got rid of it the first time but maybe the next time you won’t be so lucky. I would use a different oral kick starter if I were you.