Help with blood test?

[Nano Scale]

Hi, guys!

Today I went to the lab and I just got my first blood results ever. I ran almost everything, and it was all good, except for cholesterol, it was a little bit high.

Then I went to the hormones and I saw this:
Estradiol: 14.8 pmol/l (< 191.0)
Testosteron: 9.82 nmol/l (6.76 ÷ 39.5)

The testosterone is very low, right? I'm almost 30, had 10+ cycles with almost no PCT, it's been 1.5 years since my last cycle. I'll do another test on January and if it's the same I guess I have to consider a TRT, right?

Thanks!

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EDIT: I forgot to mention, that my last cycle with Deca was terrible and something happened since then. It's been year and a half and I feel that I'm still recovering. My prolactin results will come on Monday, I hope it's because of it. I hope that it causes this shitty testosterone downtime and when it get backs to normal I get better. But again, this is just some personal guess based on the stuff I read on the Internet, it could be just a natural low t...

 

[Human_backhoe]

Hi, guys!

Today I went to the lab and I just got my first blood results ever. I ran almost everything, and it was all good, except for cholesterol, it was a little bit high.

Then I went to the hormones and I saw this:
Estradiol: 14.8 pmol/l (< 191.0)
Testosteron: 9.82 nmol/l (6.76 ÷ 39.5)

The testosterone is very low, right? I'm almost 30, had 10+ cycles with almost no PCT, it's been 1.5 years since my last cycle. I'll do another test on January and if it's the same I guess I have to consider a TRT, right?

Thanks!

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EDIT: I forgot to mention, that my last cycle with Deca was terrible and something happened since then. It's been year and a half and I feel that I'm still recovering. My prolactin results will come on Monday, I hope it's because of it. I hope that it causes this shitty testosterone downtime and when it get backs to normal I get better. But again, this is just some personal guess based on the stuff I read on the Internet, it could be just a natural low t...

What else was on the test? When you have all results in can you post it up? (Remember people can cut and paste your info if it is not a screen shot)

Yes that's low test. I had those numbers before gear use! I think I was 10.3 nmol for testosterone.

Do you have information on your hormones before you cycled?

What was your last pct regiment? Please include time from last injection until pct

 

[Nano Scale]

What else was on the test? When you have all results in can you post it up? (Remember people can cut and paste your info if it is not a screen shot)

Yes that's low test. I had those numbers before gear use! I think I was 10.3 nmol for testosterone.

Do you have information on your hormones before you cycled?

What was your last pct regiment? Please include time from last injection until pct

Prolactin is 130.9 mIU/l (83.0 - 414.0)

I was hoping that the prolactin is high and causes the low T. The interest thing is that I feel like I have a normal T levels. And no, that’s my first blood test in my life. It’s been 14 monts since my last injection - it was Deca cycle. I’ll do another blood test January, if it’s still down I’ll do a test cycle and start considering blast and cruise.

 

[Human_backhoe]

Prolactin is 130.9 mIU/l (83.0 - 414.0)

I was hoping that the prolactin is high and causes the low T. The interest thing is that I feel like I have a normal T levels. And no, that’s my first blood test in my life. It’s been 14 monts since my last injection - it was Deca cycle. I’ll do another blood test January, if it’s still down I’ll do a test cycle and start considering blast and cruise.

Honestly your blood tests are lacking. You need to see LH and FSH compared to T and free T. Decca sticks around for quite a while after last injection. So when you start PCT matters quite a bit! What was your PCT protocol?

If you feel normal that might be your natural level. But yet again it's hard to say without the right tests.

In January maybe add the following for a clear picture of what is going on.

LH/FSH, cortisol, TSH, Free T, SHBG.

 

[Nano Scale]

Honestly your blood tests are lacking. You need to see LH and FSH compared to T and free T. Decca sticks around for quite a while after last injection. So when you start PCT matters quite a bit! What was your PCT protocol?

If you feel normal that might be your natural level. But yet again it's hard to say without the right tests.

In January maybe add the following for a clear picture of what is going on.

LH/FSH, cortisol, TSH, Free T, SHBG.

I did only Pregnyl 5000 UI 2 weeks after my last Deca injection. I started the Deca cycle 2 weeks after the PCT from my testosterone cycle. Basically, I did very stupid things last year. I really hope I can recover to ~20 nmol until January. I had a very wild summer, drinking a lot of alcohol, I didn’t workout for about 7-8 months. I started last week on a diet, no alcohol, daily workouts, I hope it helps...

January I’ll run more tests

 

[Human_backhoe]

I did only Pregnyl 5000 UI 2 weeks after my last Deca injection. I started the Deca cycle 2 weeks after the PCT from my testosterone cycle. Basically, I did very stupid things last year. I really hope I can recover to ~20 nmol until January. I had a very wild summer, drinking a lot of alcohol, I didn’t workout for about 7-8 months. I started last week on a diet, no alcohol, daily workouts, I hope it helps...

January I’ll run more tests

If I were in your shoes I would get bloodwork sooner. After Deca 5 or 6 weeks was needed to let the ester clear..... Also hcg Clomid and Nolva would have been the way to go. Alcohol definitely reduces T! So does bad diet, marijuana ect.....

It's not to late to get some bloods and start another PCT!!!!

Reach out to @The Terminator or @Old . Those dudes really know their shit!

 

[Nano Scale]

If I were in your shoes I would get bloodwork sooner. After Deca 5 or 6 weeks was needed to let the ester clear..... Also hcg Clomid and Nolva would have been the way to go. Alcohol definitely reduces T! So does bad diet, marijuana ect.....

It's not to late to get some bloods and start another PCT!!!!

Reach out to @The Terminator or @Old . Those dudes really know their shit!

Yes, I combine alcohol with marijuana a lot, this summer I ate junk food mostly. I've stopped all of them and started the diet a week ago. I'll ask them now, thanks a lot!!

 

[Human_backhoe]

Yes, I combine alcohol with marijuana a lot, this summer I ate junk food mostly. I've stopped all of them and started the diet a week ago. I'll ask them now, thanks a lot!!

Good to hear you're back on the path! Another member @BirdieNumNum went through hell to get restarted! He has a log of it somewhere I believe. You are in a much better position than he was!

Don't hesitate to reach out and ask questions!

Good luck my man!

 

[Human_backhoe]

Also as general information to all members.

Marijuana causes a immediate pulse of LH to be released. This in turn cause a pulse in testosterone production. Once the cannabis clears your system the feedback of the elevated Testosterone reduces your endogenous LH production!!!!!!!

 

[Cashton]

Also as general information to all members.

Marijuana causes a immediate pulse of LH to be released. This in turn cause a pulse in testosterone production. Once the cannabis clears your system the feedback of the elevated Testosterone reduces your endogenous LH production!!!!!!!

What does that mean for daily pot smokers?

 

[Human_backhoe]

As far as I remember the LH pulse only lasts 20 mins. So in the longer day to day the result is suppression of endogenous testosterone

 

[Nano Scale]

@Human_backhoe thanks a lot for your help!

The interesting thing is that I feel normal, rarely with depression. I also have testicular atrophy, but not much more than usual after cycle. But it's been more than a year so I decided to get a blood test. I wonder if I was this way my whole life, with low T...

Anyway, about the weed - I like it, I usually smoke a small amount sometimes before bed, it relaxes me and I watch some movie or something. Then I sleep like a baby. The problem is that on next day I feel like I'm still high, lol. I feel like my testosterone has been dropped.

So I decided to just stop it, I've found that a lot of cardio helps my sleep, so anyone who can't sleep without weed - try 30 mins cardio after workout, or in the morning, you'll sleep without any problems.

 

[Human_backhoe]

@Human_backhoe thanks a lot for your help!

The interesting thing is that I feel normal, rarely with depression. I also have testicular atrophy, but not much more than usual after cycle. But it's been more than a year so I decided to get a blood test. I wonder if I was this way my whole life, with low T...

Anyway, about the weed - I like it, I usually smoke a small amount sometimes before bed, it relaxes me and I watch some movie or something. Then I sleep like a baby. The problem is that on next day I feel like I'm still high, lol. I feel like my testosterone has been dropped.

So I decided to just stop it, I've found that a lot of cardio helps my sleep, so anyone who can't sleep without weed - try 30 mins cardio after workout, or in the morning, you'll sleep without any problems.

Love the cardio pre sleep! I used to use half a bottle of calvados or congac or 12 beers lol.

Remember some guys...."low" t is completely normal! Mine was very high until I ruptured 3 vertebrate and fractured one.....it was 5 years of pure depression until Trt.

 

[roastdawg]

You don't have to do anything. If you feel good then keep doing what you're doing. If you like the idea of trt then that route is fine too

 

[Nano Scale]

@Human_backhoe I've found the thread (Recovery from 4 year blast and cruise.) but it's mostly arguing and curses, lol. I believe he started 100mg Clomid for a few weeks, then dropped to 50mg. But I don't understand this: "When I was taking 150mg clomid years ago, my levels went up a little bit (14nmol or whatever). And now taking 100mg ED my levels are 28.9nmol." What does he means by "ED"?

@roastdawg yeah, I won't do anything until it's been 4 months of good diet, workout and sleep and get my blood results again. I've been in the exact same situation (testicular atrophy, depressions, ED) a few years ago, when I ran a Deca cycle. It looks like it doesn't work with my body and also that I'm not doing the PCT correctly. I wish I've found this forum earlier. In my country there's no doctors in this area... The only pharmacy testosterone here is Omnadren, which needs to be injected every other day, so I hope I don't have to start TRT. If it was once a week I have no problem with that, lol...

 

[Human_backhoe]

@Human_backhoe I've found the thread (Recovery from 4 year blast and cruise.) but it's mostly arguing and curses, lol. I believe he started 100mg Clomid for a few weeks, then dropped to 50mg. But I don't understand this: "When I was taking 150mg clomid years ago, my levels went up a little bit (14nmol or whatever). And now taking 100mg ED my levels are 28.9nmol." What does he means by "ED"?

@roastdawg yeah, I won't do anything until it's been 4 months of good diet, workout and sleep and get my blood results again. I've been in the exact same situation (testicular atrophy, depressions, ED) a few years ago, when I ran a Deca cycle. It looks like it doesn't work with my body and also that I'm not doing the PCT correctly. I wish I've found this forum earlier. In my country there's no doctors in this area... The only pharmacy testosterone here is Omnadren, which needs to be injected every other day, so I hope I don't have to start TRT. If it was once a week I have no problem with that, lol...

What country are you in?


Also Meso is I shit show lol. I believe he blasted a ton of hcg for quite a while!

 

[Human_backhoe]

@Silentlemon1011 am I missing anything? Helpful people or threads?

 

[Silentlemon1011]

@Silentlemon1011 am I missing anything? Helpful people or threads?

I've always leaned on @Old and @The Terminator for HPTA recovery

 

[Nano Scale]

What country are you in?


Also Meso is I shit show lol. I believe he blasted a ton of hcg for quite a while!

I live in Bulgaria, it's a small country in Europe

 

[The Terminator]

Well it’s good that you stopped the alcohol and weed. Could very well have been that which gave you low T or at least contributed. Would have been helpful to know what LH/FSH was at but no matter.

I would start hCG and stay on it until T is at least 400-500 which would be like ~14-17nmol, but of course you could stay on till it’s higher. For me I’d start ~1000iu 3x/wk and adjust if necessary. Once you reach that T level then you can switch to clomid/tamoxifen for min 1-2 months. Doses I’d do like 50/20, maybe 25/10 towards the end but prob not necessary to taper unless planning on using them longer. The 100/40mg if you were to do it I’d only do so for the first day or two but then 50/20.

If the serms don’t help there’s always triptorelin. I have it but never used triptorelin tho you’re supposed to inject 0.1mg once: more then that can leave you temporarily suppressed.