To my patriots... This day in history

eh, it's gods way of slapping the liberals around. Shame to see that much burn though.
At least with 9/11 we knew the terrorist. A lot if these fires were started by domestic terrorist that took advantage of the Insane dry winds we were having. Also 10 times more firefighters are Involved basically losing on every front and can’t hold a line.
 
At least with 9/11 we knew the terrorist. A lot if these fires were started by domestic terrorist that took advantage of the Insane dry winds we were having. Also 10 times more firefighters are Involved basically losing on every front and can’t hold a line.
Those fires were started intentionally? Seriously?
 
Socialism isn't the enemy, we already have socialism, if you didn't old folks would be living in dumpsters. Since when is helping your fellow man considered a problem? This idea that it's American to have us all pitted against each other competing, the elites in charge love that, but does that help the masses of people in this country, I've not seen evidence if you actually take a tour of the America they don't show you on TV?

9/11 was bullshit, we were fed a pack of lies, it was used by our government to put all of us under surveillance. It was used by the military industrial complex to drain us dry, to send our young men to worthless wars that cost their bodies and minds.

9/11 is the exact reason not to be patriotic. You can't honestly trust our government, Bush and Cheney, those two should have been tried for war crimes, treason, and turned into taxidermy mounts.

We opened up a hell on earth in the middle east, countless people were lined up and shot in the head, many of them were put on their knees and had their heads sawed off slowly while they gurgled and chocked on their blood.

I don't wave the American flag, I don't give a shit about our government. I care about my fellow citizens, but our government is run by psychopaths and I consider them the enemy of all that is sane and good.
 
Socialism isn't the enemy, we already have socialism, if you didn't old folks would be living in dumpsters. Since when is helping your fellow man considered a problem? This idea that it's American to have us all pitted against each other competing, the elites in charge love that, but does that help the masses of people in this country, I've not seen evidence if you actually take a tour of the America they don't show you on TV?

9/11 was bullshit, we were fed a pack of lies, it was used by our government to put all of us under surveillance. It was used by the military industrial complex to drain us dry, to send our young men to worthless wars that cost their bodies and minds.

9/11 is the exact reason not to be patriotic. You can't honestly trust our government, Bush and Cheney, those two should have been tried for war crimes, treason, and turned into taxidermy mounts.

We opened up a hell on earth in the middle east, countless people were lined up and shot in the head, many of them were put on their knees and had their heads sawed off slowly while they gurgled and chocked on their blood.

I don't wave the American flag, I don't give a shit about our government. I care about my fellow citizens, but our government is run by psychopaths and I consider them the enemy of all that is sane and good.
Can you just save your political rhetoric and shove it up your recently banned ass? It's been said 1000000x. REGARDLESS, on this day, innocent people lost their lives. Yea, there was something fishy going on in the years that followed. I AGREE. I was there. I saw it first hand. Did you?
 
Can you just save your political rhetoric and shove it up your recently banned ass? It's been said 1000000x. REGARDLESS, on this day, innocent people lost their lives. Yea, there was something fishy going on in the years that followed. I AGREE. I was there. I saw it first hand. Did you?

I watched in unfold on TV just like most people, I was 28 at the time, watched it all day and into the night at work.

However it didn't need to happen. It didn't need to be covered up.

We could have prevented it easily had we not made so many miscalculations over the past few decades.

Ask the Israelis if they knew this shit was going down before hand, those guys know just about everything that is happening in the Middle East. 5 minutes after it happened......call to Israel....oh yeah it's Bin Laden, forgot to tell you he was planning that, well while we have you here could please start a war with Iraq to get Saddam off our ass?

Don't forget it was propaganda from Israel that got us into the first Gulf War.

Cut ties with Israel, stop letting the Middle East immigrate here and you just solved the problem.
 
It’s sad for all the people that died on 911 so many innocent lives killed.


a misconception about our government telling the people they attacked us because they don’t like our freedoms. that’s the biggest bullshit line I’ve ever heard. they attacked us because we have military bases/installations in their countries. kind of like having Russia and China having military bases in our country. I don’t think we’d be too happy about that or the bombing of our country. we would not appreciate that and I’m sure all of us will take up arms against those foreign military members in our country. that’s the reason why they attacked us on 9/11 not the bullshit excuse our government gave us because they don’t like our freedoms and way of life. such a crock of shit.



I remember legitimately our government trying to go after bin Laden in Afghanistan, but he fled to Pakistan. it turned into the United States fighting for Afghanistan’s freedom and policing their country like a police force which had nothing to do with our freedoms or liberties here in the US. we could’ve had a special forces track him down without so many of our military members killed and injured in action because our government makes stupid decisions trying to make Afghanistan a democracy.

Iraq was another total disaster and another stupid decision by our government sending our men and women into war for absolutely no reason and again to fight for some other countries freedoms which they don’t even give two shits about. such a waste of time resources and money. I feel for our military members who got called upon by their government to fight for some other country’s freedoms which had nothing to do with securing our liberties and freedoms. such a shame.

and another war in Vietnam. a stupid dumb decision by our government sending our military members to get killed for some other country’s freedom. you could add the Korean War to that as well.

Not sure you could even call them wars because we haven’t declared war since World War II as our Constitution requires to send our troops into battle. but as we all know the government doesn’t give two shits about the US Constitution and that’s why our country is so fucked up like it is today.
 
The thing to consider is that each time we go to another country to fight and bring freedom, we in turn give up our freedoms.

Look at WWI all the bills that were introduced to silent any opposition, it was barbaric.

WWII, people quickly learned to stfu or go to prison.

Some of the best all time antiwar speeches have been given by our vets, not guys sitting on their ass, but men with bullets whizzing over their heads, scooping their buddies brains up with a helmet.

You can't argue with that.

And this isn't just a leftest issue, read some of Pat Buchanan, he'll school you on how America has been used as a whore. Look at the Libertarians that have been ranting about this for decades.
 
Another thing that seems to make no sense. Yes Afghanistan is a hell hole and the Taliban ain't no joke, these cavemen are barbaric and I feel sorry for the people that have to live among these neanderthals.

That said, South of the border, is some of the most dangerous violent people on the planet. We seem to always look about 7000+ miles away from our country to start a war. And yet we could have spent that money to help the people in South America our next door neighbors.

I've watched many uncensored videos of torture and killings from south america that would make the most radical ISIS member blush with its sadism, it's like something out of the worst XXX rated horror movies and they aren't even doing it for religion purposes, they're just doing because they seem to enjoy it.
 
I watched in unfold on TV just like most people, I was 28 at the time, watched it all day and into the night at work.

However it didn't need to happen. It didn't need to be covered up.

We could have prevented it easily had we not made so many miscalculations over the past few decades.

Ask the Israelis if they knew this shit was going down before hand, those guys know just about everything that is happening in the Middle East. 5 minutes after it happened......call to Israel....oh yeah it's Bin Laden, forgot to tell you he was planning that, well while we have you here could please start a war with Iraq to get Saddam off our ass?

Don't forget it was propaganda from Israel that got us into the first Gulf War.

Cut ties with Israel, stop letting the Middle East immigrate here and you just solved the problem.
Yup, absolutely right. CIA picked up on a "catastrophic event on the US" on whatever lines they have in the months prior. I know little about Israel so I wont even pretend I do. I've heard arguments from multiple sides over the past 19, I know what happened. As stated in the aforementioned, I know something was off, I know that the number of casualties in certain circumstances was way off. I know a goddam wooden hammer didnt cost the Gov $300 bucks.
Out of respect tho, as stated before, innocent lives were lost. Dont forget that, regardless of how you feel.
 
The thing to consider is that each time we go to another country to fight and bring freedom, we in turn give up our freedoms.

Look at WWI all the bills that were introduced to silent any opposition, it was barbaric.

WWII, people quickly learned to stfu or go to prison.

Some of the best all time antiwar speeches have been given by our vets, not guys sitting on their ass, but men with bullets whizzing over their heads, scooping their buddies brains up with a helmet.

You can't argue with that.

And this isn't just a leftest issue, read some of Pat Buchanan, he'll school you on how America has been used as a whore. Look at the Libertarians that have been ranting about this for decades.
Jesus fucking christ, who joins a goddam anabolic steroid forum to dive right into political bullshit/anti whatever they're protesting these days?
 
Out of respect tho, as stated before, innocent lives were lost. Dont forget that, regardless of how you feel.

It wouldn't be respectful for me to gloss over the truth. Those poor people jumping to their deaths one by one deserve the truth and our government has refused to let the truth be known.

And Israel is the main reason we are hated. Sure our military bases stir up trouble, but Israel is the most contentious part of this entire argument.

We have sent thousands of or men into harms way, many with horrific injuries and Israel has sat back and laughed at us every step of the way as we fall for their master class game of lying.

"God will bless those that bless Israel" It actually states "those that bless Abraham(not Israel). The evangelicals have bought into this. It used to be back in the early 1900's and before, Americans didn't believe this bullshit.....thanks to Contemporary Christian Zionism started with the Scofield bible printed in 1909 they started turning Americans into mindless zombies trying to fulfill the end times prophecies by kissing j*w ass.

Benjamin Netanyahu is on video claiming he can get Americans to believe and do anything in a secrete video recorded in a hotel.

He constantly feeds us bullshit propaganda about Iran WMD's.....this will be our next war, our young boys will be fed into a meat grinder once again.

He fed us bullshit about WMDs in Iraq, the entire purpose of invading.

The Palestinians many of whom have been there for many generations have the right to live anywhere they like in Israel, however that didn't workout. Jews move in, Palestinians are told to pack up and gtfo again and again, they have been herded into smaller and smaller tracks of land where they live in slums.

This pisses off Muslims the world over......and who supports Israel with bombs, weapons and lots of cash every single year to the tune of $4 billion....good old USofA and that is why they hate us and that is why 9/11 happened.
 
Socialism isn't the enemy, we already have socialism, if you didn't old folks would be living in dumpsters.
yeah asswipe, it's one of a few enemies. And your idea of helping old people out is not socialism.

Since when is helping your fellow man considered a problem
when they're mongrels that don't lift a finger to help themselves. I'd rather crush their skulls with anything blunt than give them a bowl of leftover, dried out white rice.

Lol at you. What about the old people? Twit. You go ahead and show me one article, news report, one editorial, one social media post that has anything related to the issues that old people are causing through their socialist ideals. I'll wait. Can't find any, because they aren't socialist.

You pretend to be smart. Pretend harder
 
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The Palestinians many of whom have been there for many generations have the right to live anywhere they like in Israel, however that didn't workout. Jews move in, Palestinians are told to pack up and gtfo again and again, they have been herded into smaller and smaller tracks of land where they live in slums.
you know who cares? Hezbollah. Iran. Socialists. Liberals.

You know who doesn't care? The other 96% of the world.

The palestinians are living a life of scum because that's what they want based on how they act. You don't want to be kept in an uneducated, stagnant state? How about taking a good look at your internals and figure out why it's not working, AND THEN CHANGE IT. Life and its obstacles are rarely other people's fault. Weak liberals will cry and blame others. It takes men to get their house in order. You won't find men when you look at socialism, radical religious ideology etc. You find lost boys that are looking for a way to cry themselves to sleep to justify why they're so weak, indoctrinated puppets that follow anyone with a promise of grandeur even if they've watched generations of their countrymen do the same before them with nothing but disastrous results.

Epic failures, all of them.
 
My Grandmother had nothing.

She was committed at a young age after she tried to kill her mother, she was schizophrenic(with multiple distinct personalities), received electroshock therapy when they did that sort of thing to snap her out of it, she did manage to do some work in life, but not much. Later she was put into an assisted care living home where she lived for about 25 years until the last couple where she died in a nursing home after heart attacks.

The State sent us a notice that her total cost of care, including all of her surgeries, housing, food, endless medications(one medication for her mental problems was $1000/month), was right around $900,000.

We are in fact a socialist country, it's just that we pretend we're not because we like the rugged american myth of the marlboro man.

There are plenty of people in this country that are costing a fortune that contribute very little at all, hedge fund managers, most of the government, corporations that get endless bailouts and walk off with golden parachutes. We got an entire upper class that are basically parasites.
 
you know who cares? Hezbollah. Iran. Socialists. Liberals.

You know who doesn't care? The other 96% of the world.

The palestinians are living a life of scum because that's what they want based on how they act. You don't want to be kept in an uneducated, stagnant state? How about taking a good look at your internals and figure out why it's not working, AND THEN CHANGE IT. Life and its obstacles are rarely other people's fault. Weak liberals will cry and blame others. It takes men to get their house in order. You won't find men when you look at socialism, radical religious ideology etc. You find lost boys that are looking for a way to cry themselves to sleep to justify why they're so weak, indoctrinated puppets that follow anyone with a promise of grandeur even if they've watched generations of their countrymen do the same before them with nothing but disastrous results.

Epic failures, all of them.

No doubt Islam is a huge pile of shit and the middle east tends to retard or stunt the entrepreneurial spirit as they rely on black gold to provide for their basic needs.

That said, if you were living in Israel and all of the sudden millions of people came pouring into your neighborhood and told you to pack up and get out. You think you'd just suck it up and say "come on in you sons-a-bitches and make my life a living hell", "take everything I've ever known and had and claim it as your own".

Very few of these people moving in had any real connection to the Middle East, the Palestinians look Middle Eastern(the vast majority are from Egypt originally), many of these other people(jews) are just your average white guy walking down the street. It would be like me claiming to be native and telling the natives to leave their lands because I'm the rightful owner even if my entire family is white and German.
 
Very few of these people moving in had any real connection to the Middle East,
so please enlighten me: when did these Jews from Europe decide to become jewish? If they didn't have any real connection to israel there must be a notes dmark in history that explains this. Please find it and show us.


the Palestinians look Middle Eastern

many of these other people(jews) are just your average white guy walking down the street
Go to Israel. Your statements are profoundly incorrect. Seriously, if you haven't had your boots on the ground in Israel you have no clue what they "look like".

the Palestinians look Middle Eastern(the vast majority are from Egypt originally)
proof reading is a must. If the palestinians are originally from Egypt then who the fuck are they to say anything about Jews maintaining israel as their nation? GTFO with this anti-semitic hypocritical bull shit.
 
so please enlighten me: when did these Jews from Europe decide to become jewish? If they didn't have any real connection to israel there must be a notes dmark in history that explains this. Please find it and show us.





Go to Israel. Your statements are profoundly incorrect. Seriously, if you haven't had your boots on the ground in Israel you have no clue what they "look like".

proof reading is a must. If the palestinians are originally from Egypt then who the fuck are they to say anything about Jews maintaining israel as their nation? GTFO with this anti-semitic hypocritical bull shit.

Dont bother

Just like he talks smack about socialism... hes never been to an actual socislist country.

Or had to see this shit in ACTUAL reality.

He reads a fee biased books and watches a couple of agenda based documentaries and assumes that's how the world works.

Wouldnt know Isreali or Jewish hospitality if it beat him with a stick.

Wouldnt know Socialist corruption if it executed him at point blank with a shovel.
 
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