Raw sources

Those who are curious about such things are encouraged to venture to the steroid underground.

Pick a source thread and read through at least the last 10 pages to get an idea for how customers feel about said source.

Repeat the above process until you find one that you feel comfortable with.

Nobody is going to vouch for anyone around here.

And don't trust anybody trying to sell to you through private message.

Hope that helps and welcome to MESO.
 
I’ve been doing a lot of reading on dynamiteraws and that seems to be the more ideal thing to me but I have no idea how to get in touch with them. Sorry I’m new to this form
If you read enough in his thread, you should probably see an email or wickr contact.

You could also search for posts made by extreme pip to maybe narrow down your search.
 
Go through Dynamiteraws, dragonordnance and purplepandas thread and make up your own mind.
Honestly I’ve heard quite a few accounts of PPL selectively scamming and sending members plain corn starch i believe it was instead of raws, I would stay clear of them but of course always check shit out yourself and make an informed decision.
 
Honestly I’ve heard quite a few accounts of PPL selectively scamming and sending members plain corn starch i believe it was instead of raws, I would stay clear of them but of course always check shit out yourself and make an informed decision.
Oh shit! Shots fired! I had not heard this...and you've heard of it happening to multiple folks? Damn. Good looking out.

I don't brew myself but sometimes will browse their thread when it pops up on the newest posts.

I remember their rep saying they don't accept analytical testing done by janoshik.

Most guys know of Jano's past indiscretions, but I found it to be an odd statement. He isn't known for faking results anytime recently and when his analysis has been checked against lab4tox, it has been the same.

It struck me as being strange, but if they are selective scamming, that is one more out to use if someone has caught them sending out bunk products, I guess.

Where'd you happen to hear about them sending out corn starch? On meso or elsewhere?
 
Oh shit! Shots fired! I had not heard this...and you've heard of it happening to multiple folks? Damn. Good looking out.

I don't brew myself but sometimes will browse their thread when it pops up on the newest posts.

I remember their rep saying they don't accept analytical testing done by janoshik.

Most guys know of Jano's past indiscretions, but I found it to be an odd statement. He isn't known for faking results anytime recently and when his analysis has been checked against lab4tox, it has been the same.

It struck me as being strange, but if they are selective scamming, that is one more out to use if someone has caught them sending out bunk products, I guess.

Where'd you happen to hear about them sending out corn starch? On meso or elsewhere?
I believe I read one on meso.
 
Honestly I’ve heard quite a few accounts of PPL selectively scamming and sending members plain corn starch i believe it was instead of raws, I would stay clear of them but of course always check shit out yourself and make an informed decision.
No shit? I’ve used them a few times since Reddit (lmao) never heard of such a thing. However with such a large source I guess it’s not unbelievable.
I wonder if anyone actually brewed up corn starch and injected it...I’d be so pissed.
 
No shit? I’ve used them a few times since Reddit (lmao) never heard of such a thing. However with such a large source I guess it’s not unbelievable.
I wonder if anyone actually brewed up corn starch and injected it...I’d be so pissed.
They tried, obviously it didn’t dissolve at all, I BELIVE they sent it off for testing and it couldn’t be identified as any AAS. Maybe I shouldn’t have said quite a few, but a few I’ve seen.

Honestly don’t know why they would do that, it doesn’t really make sense to me, they have the product(one would assume) they want repeat business (again assuming) and you would think they stand more to gain from business then to lose in terms of negative reviews, but then again who really believes the word of some random person when they have so many reputable members and even labs purchasing from them.
 
They tried, obviously it didn’t dissolve at all, I BELIVE they sent it off for testing and it couldn’t be identified as any AAS. Maybe I shouldn’t have said quite a few, but a few I’ve seen.

Honestly don’t know why they would do that, it doesn’t really make sense to me, they have the product(one would assume) they want repeat business (again assuming) and you would think they stand more to gain from business then to lose in terms of negative reviews, but then again who really believes the word of some random person when they have so many reputable members and even labs purchasing from them.
Yeah I’d expect them to want repeat business as well considering people who buy raws are typically repeat customers if you’re provided quality. That’s crazy I never heard of this, granted I’m fairly new to these communities. Good to know
 
Honestly I’ve heard quite a few accounts of PPL selectively scamming and sending members plain corn starch i believe it was instead of raws, I would stay clear of them but of course always check shit out yourself and make an informed decision.
Where is the proof on his? I've heard this before and every time the guys that claim they got sent corn starch/sugar or whatever instead of what they ordered, they dont have any proof to back it up. I doubt PPL would ever do something like that with his whole reputation at sake. Its like those idiots on anabolex that claims DO sent them bunk raws. lol, scammers.
 
Where is the proof on his? I've heard this before and every time the guys that claim they got sent corn starch/sugar or whatever instead of what they ordered, they dont have any proof to back it up. I doubt PPL would ever do something like that with his whole reputation at sake. Its like those idiots on anabolex that claims DO sent them bunk raws. lol, scammers.
I tried to scan the forums looking for the thread but couldn’t find it, I’m pretty sure I read one of them here, it wasn’t me that was scammed so I don’t have proof but there was a lab result I believe for something that couldn’t be identified as any aas, I know there’s lots of happy customers and I can’t think of a reason why they would selectively scam but that wasn’t the first account I’ve heard of this. I’m just saying I have heard of them selectively scamming and wouldn’t want to take that risk with them and would honestly go to dynamite or dragon before using PPL.
 
I tried to scan the forums looking for the thread but couldn’t find it, I’m pretty sure I read one of them here, it wasn’t me that was scammed so I don’t have proof but there was a lab result I believe for something that couldn’t be identified as any aas, I know there’s lots of happy customers and I can’t think of a reason why they would selectively scam but that wasn’t the first account I’ve heard of this. I’m just saying I have heard of them selectively scamming and wouldn’t want to take that risk with them and would honestly go to dynamite or dragon before using PPL.
PPL has always seemed like the Walmart of the raws world to me. I've always gotten the impression that they were a pretty large, sophisticated operation, but that could just be good marketing, I suppose.

It doesn't really make sense for them to be selectively scamming, sending out corn starch when they are basically the guys on top of the mountain. I don't believe they arrived there by ripping folks off but who knows?

Naps was/is probably still getting lots of customers even though they are known to be shady.

Whatever the case, this is the exact reason that we encourage folks to do their own research and then make their own educated decision.

Just because everything was all good, doesn't mean it still is...
 
PPL has always seemed like the Walmart of the raws world to me. I've always gotten the impression that they were a pretty large, sophisticated operation, but that could just be good marketing, I suppose.

It doesn't really make sense for them to be selectively scamming, sending out corn starch when they are basically the guys on top of the mountain. I don't believe they arrived there by ripping folks off but who knows?

Naps was/is probably still getting lots of customers even though they are known to be shady.

Whatever the case, this is the exact reason that we encourage folks to do their own research and then make their own educated decision.

Just because everything was all good, doesn't mean it still is...
No you’re right, they are a fairly large and long standing operation so one would assume that they have their ducks in a row and can’t think really of a good reason they would selectively scam, perhaps maybe it’s one of their reps doing it selectively on their own, perhaps it’s all bullshit... I seen recently there’s an issue with the test E raws causing pip no matter how it’s brewed and of course they’ve continued to sell the product despite multiple reports of it causing weird pip, that’s right in there thread.
 
Yeah, I've read about test e raws being hit or miss with the bad pip from a lot of different sources over the past year. I have also read that some brewers have figured out how to "wash" the raws somehow and eliminate the problem.
 
Yeah, I've read about test e raws being hit or miss with the bad pip from a lot of different sources over the past year. I have also read that some brewers have figured out how to "wash" the raws somehow and eliminate the problem.
Maybe a byproduct from the synthesis that they didn’t care or know of to clean up, I’m really not familiar with the production methods for large scale testosterone synthesis. I think that shows how much those Chinese chemists really care about what they’re sending us, lol.
 
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