Why does Test affect facial appearance even when lean?

[Exister0]

Something I’ve noticed is even a moderate amount of test e like 200mg a week can result in a slightly larger face for some people. Is this all simply down to e2 levels or are there other factors at play? I’m considering a future cycle with 100mg test e a week with 300mg of tren ace weekly.

I’ve come to realize that when my test levels are at normal range for a natural I look a lot leaner all around. However just a conservative 200-250mg dose of test can cause a noticeable change.I’ve never taken an AI before so that could play a role in this.
What are your thoughts?

 

[Dthcore]

Sometimes its E2, others its the synthetic androgen load. OR both even lol

 

[Exister0]

Sometimes its E2, others its the synthetic androgen load. OR both even lol

Synthetic androgen load? Can you elaborate on that?

 

[Hank81]

That's just a little retention. Renin-angioten
sin-aldosterone system in action (thus antidiuretic hormone).
There's no much you can do, don't take antidiuretics. You shouldn't need an AI at that dose but you can give a try to Exemastane due to it's safety margin even if your E2 is already low.

GL.

 

[Exister0]

That's just a little retention. Renin-angioten
sin-aldosterone system in action (thus antidiuretic hormone).
There's no much you can do, don't take antidiuretics. You shouldn't need an AI at that dose but you can give a try to Exemastane due to it's safety margin even if your E2 is already low.

GL.

I’m thinking of maybe lowering the dose to 100 mg a week. But maybe it’s the dnp that’s causing it because my face was fine before I started my run with it.

 

[malfeasance]

DNP causes water retention!

 

[grey]

synthetic androgen load

What are you talking about?

 

[Exister0]

DNP causes water retention!

Is the water retention that noticeable? I could never tell if it’s all in my head or not

 

[Brandaddy]

I've always found this weird. I've been on test for a bit and when I started I got the classic moon face. After awhile my face actually leaned out considerably and now I went from cubby cheeks to not looking like I hardly have any fat on face. Always chalked it up to long term use of test.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

I only get this at 1g plus and no AI.

I don't think you'd get noticable bloating in the face at 200mgs pw. It's crazy how people react so much differently.

 

[All Nats McGee]

125mg to 250mg I get more bloat in my face.

 

[Dthcore]

Synthetic androgen load? Can you elaborate on that?

Natural test Peaks and valleys. TRT (Sythentic) Stays elevated through out the day and i believe that the masculinization is due to its androgenic properties. A lot of times TRT also puts us at higher amounts than we produce naturally as a whole. Again contributing to a more masculine look. Think about compounds that are more androgenic and the way it effects cosmetics. Like Masteron and Tren are alot more androgenic. Those compounds effect the look of the muscle and even the face more. I know its not test but its just to create an example. Test in the end of the day is still androgenic and DHT tends to go up as well if you are not inhibiting it.

The "moonface/bloated" look i believe is due to E2.

 

[Duke Nukem]

I definitely have a bit of a moon face but the worst thing is after doing a tren bulk cycle I developed a fucking double chin and this is with about 13% body fat, looks ridiculous, fuck my life.

 

[Exister0]

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I only get this at 1g plus and no AI.

I don't think you'd get noticable bloating in the face at 200mgs pw. It's crazy how people react so much differently.

I definitely have a bit of a moon face but the worst thing is after doing a tren bulk cycle I developed a fucking double chin and this is with about 13% body fat, looks ridiculous, fuck my life.

You think tren contributed to that?

 

[Duke Nukem]

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You think tren contributed to that?

Im assuming so as it only happened after using tren, and to be clear it's not fat it's basically my chin/neck muscle that got bigger.. someone said T3 would take care of it, haven't tried that yet. I did gain 30 lbs from the cycle so I'm not complaining too much, just wish I had that chiseled jawline I see some dudes with.

 

[Dthcore]

 

[Exister0]

I wonder if it’s just test and other wet compounds that cause that or if all aas in general contribute to the puffy look

 

[Deleted member 59947]

I wonder if it’s just test and other wet compounds that cause that or if all aas in general contribute to the puffy look

He looked a lot better and a lot more masculine on AAS.
His face filled up better and he didn't have those hollow eyes with puffy bags.