Will you get the covid vaccine ?

[No Gods No Masters]

I'm aware of the difference in that regard, but the irony remains. There are guys willingly injecting untested, unresearched compounds... Hair in the vial? Run it through a filter. It's ironic that a vaccine is met with such antagonism from guys that regularly attempt to inject anything that will potentially grow muscle or burn fat based on anecdotes. I still understand why it's met with apprehension... It's ironic none the less.

It's all about control.

I control what I put in my body. Don't want to be mandated to do anything.

If the vaccine was nothing more than a consumer product you could buy off the shelf, a free will consumer choice, that would be fine, but instead it is being pushed, marketed, mandated, forced and heavily propagandized.

No one propagandizes steroids, they are instead demonized by society and health professionals. Sure the gym culture has some influence, but you can easily leave a gym, but if your employer forces you to do something that is the problem.

Because our society is now geared towards obedience, there is no place for a person to go if they disobey, you will be "othered" until your will is broken, returning, crawling on your hands and knees in reverence, prostrating to your overlords, begging forgiveness, for questioning their wisdom.

In other words we're tired of the bullshit, this shit needs to stop, leave people alone, let the fatties die in peace.

 

[Eman]

No one propagandizes steroids

Uh, no... That is false.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

Uh, no... That is false.

Who is specifically coming on TV today and telling you about using steroids.

Sure people are putting up images of physical perfection that don't really exist without enhancement. That's not handing you specific product, that's just suggesting that you might want to join the party of your own free will.

Lets not lump trt in with steroid use, it's there to allow men to get there life back so they can get on with living and not just sleeping through the last decades of their lives.

NBC, FOX, CNN is running nonstop propaganda for the vaccine. I don't see any ads for tren, dbol, deca, masteron.....ect.

6-12 million people use anabolic steroids in the USofA. Big Pharma considers those numbers small potatoes, they're looking for hundreds of millions of customers, that's where mandated vaccines come into place.

When was the last time your baby was scheduled twenty shots of anabolic steroids....not gonna happen, but vaccines...no problem, brain inflammation for your baby that grows up to become shit your pants retarded....also no problem. All brought to you by big pharma.

 

[jJjburton]

Absolutely not. I might however be one of the few that is at least questioning the system. Granted there are millions that question it, but perhaps they haven't the time to ask how we got here.

It's philosophical, not practical.

We aren't far from genetically engineering humans, it won't be long before we are little more than domesticated gmo's. It's pretty much over for the human race. Hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution is laid to waste in a rapidly changing system. We have scientist eager to use their skills to fix all of our problems, they have a fantasy utopia with them to steer us in the right direction.

Man can't leave things alone, he can't just be and that will be the downfall, as we rapidly accelerate to our destruction, perhaps the final die off of life, as mammals we really were an incredible evolutionary happening, we were efficient, mobile, smart, but then we started demanding too much.

This is probably what the egyptians said about the new coming age after them... and then the next and on, and on. Since cave men, its always the next generation thats going to ruin the world.

 

[jJjburton]

I guess maybe it's the question of it being give mandated but... Does no one see the irony of gear heads being so opposed to a vaccine when there is a steady flow of threads regarding injection of questionable substances? I swear some guys in the community will try to inject anything... But not a vaccine lol.

Exactly, after all the crap i put in my body, a vaccine will be the least of it. Lucky to even be here.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

i'm afraid of needles, they're sharp and scary. Therefore i will be opting out of receiving the vaccine.

 

[Eman]

Who is specifically coming on TV today and telling you about using steroids.

Sure people are putting up images of physical perfection that don't really exist without enhancement. That's not handing you specific product, that's just suggesting that you might want to join the party of your own free will.

Lets not lump trt in with steroid use, it's there to allow men to get there life back so they can get on with living and not just sleeping through the last decades of their lives.

NBC, FOX, CNN is running nonstop propaganda for the vaccine. I don't see any ads for tren, dbol, deca, masteron.....ect.

6-12 million people use anabolic steroids in the USofA. Big Pharma considers those numbers small potatoes, they're looking for hundreds of millions of customers, that's where mandated vaccines come into place.

When was the last time your baby was scheduled twenty shots of anabolic steroids....not gonna happen, but vaccines...no problem, brain inflammation for your baby that grows up to become shit your pants retarded....also no problem. All brought to you by big pharma.

Someone coming into TV and telling you to use steroids is not the beginning and end of propaganda - it's absurd that you would chalk propaganda up to that, and only that. Propaganda isn't only a means to sell something, or force you to use something. In this case actually, steroid propaganda is designed to deter the population from using it. You're making comparisons to steroids and vaccines that, aside from just being strange, don't exist and don't prove your point because you're comparing apples to oranges.

Anytime someone of some or zero importance fucks up and steroids are found in the vicinity - the steroids were to blame. WWE wrestler gets a brain tumor? Steroids caused it. Athlete kills themself? Steroids to blame. Athlete won first place? They were cheating because they were using a dangerous substance... A dangerous substance that occurs naturally in the human body. People have unrealistic expectations of what a human body should look like? Steroids to blame.

The government and media are promoting misleading information when it comes to steroids. I'm not saying it does or doesn't happen with vaccines (before you post 5 more paragraphs, I am more than clear of your particular stance) but it most certainly does happen with steroids.

 

[Eman]

This is probably what the egyptians said about the new coming age after them... and then the next and on, and on. Since cave men, its always the next generation thats going to ruin the world.

I think it's typically blamed on progressives... It's true that the new generation is the most progressive generation. It was true of the last generation too. Every generation is the most progressive generation until the next comes. By the time the next one succeeds, they'll be looking back and shaking their heads at the previous.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

This is probably what the egyptians said about the new coming age after them... and then the next and on, and on. Since cave men, its always the next generation thats going to ruin the world.

The difference is they didn't have the technology to alter biology. They still lived according to the basic laws of nature.

We are far off from a technological singularity, we are far off from the super computing capabilities needed to predict every undesirable outcome when we tinker with something as unpredictable as a non-isolated biological system.

Egyptians were dealing with politics and even though that is complicated, you can make adjustments if you miscalculate.

No one can really predict the future, we have plenty of geeks that claim they can, but it's bullshit. The butterfly effect is relevant, you simply can't know what one action will do far down the road.

Rich people will want designer babies, politicians will want domesticated GMO humans that are easily controlled and selected for their docile productive nature.


You're fucked as natural selection is all but history and you are duped into the ignorant belief that you can attain perfection without serious consequences.

Millions of years of evolution, nature is unbeatable with regards to survival, even if there has been mass die offs at least 5 times in history due to catastrophic events that caused a collapse of life support.

What humans are basically doing is looking at a future of having already picked the lowest hanging fruit, peak oil if you will has long since arrived and gone. Now he is left with having to invest as much energy as he harvests, the gravy days are over. This fantasy that we can engineer ourselves out of any problem is a nice one, but look around you, what isn't made of oil or requires a toxic waste dump of chemicals.

Like it or not, population reduction is what nature wants, killing off the weak is necessary for the survival of the species, this is why vaccines are wrong. Let the weak die, shut down the hospitals, pull the plug.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

Someone coming into TV and telling you to use steroids is not the beginning and end of propaganda - it's absurd that you would chalk propaganda up to that, and only that. Propaganda isn't only a means to sell something, or force you to use something. In this case actually, steroid propaganda is designed to deter the population from using it. You're making comparisons to steroids and vaccines that, aside from just being strange, don't exist and don't prove your point because you're comparing apples to oranges.

Anytime someone of some or zero importance fucks up and steroids are found in the vicinity - the steroids were to blame. WWE wrestler gets a brain tumor? Steroids caused it. Athlete kills themself? Steroids to blame. Athlete won first place? They were cheating because they were using a dangerous substance... A dangerous substance that occurs naturally in the human body. People have unrealistic expectations of what a human body should look like? Steroids to blame.

The government and media are promoting misleading information when it comes to steroids. I'm not saying it does or doesn't happen with vaccines (before you post 5 more paragraphs, I am more than clear of your particular stance) but it most certainly does happen with steroids.

Yes, but that's negative propaganda with regards to steroid use.

Where's the government negative propaganda with regard to vaccines?

You mentioned the government is trying to deter steroid use. That's fine, I have enough shit to last me 100 years if I wanted, so while they deter, I continue on with my life without giving a shit what the government wants.

I just wish they were a little more even handed with regards to vaccines.

It comes back to self ownership. I think the government looks at vaccines as protecting their property, that property being me.

 

[Eman]

Yes, but that's negative propaganda with regards to steroid use.

Where's the government negative propaganda with regard to vaccines?

You mentioned the government is trying to deter steroid use. That's fine, I have enough shit to last me 100 years if I wanted, so while they deter, I continue on with my life without giving a shit what the government wants.

I just wish they were a little more even handed with regards to vaccines.

It comes back to self ownership. I think the government looks at vaccines as protecting their property, that property being me.

"Yes, but that's negative propaganda"

... Say what? Propaganda is propaganda, it makes no difference if it promotes something or antagonizes it. No clue what your point is.

Why is there no negative propaganda about vaccines? I hesitate to ask.. but what the hell would there really be to say other than your argument that, "umm well the government is making me do it so I don't want to...". Some of your argument might fit given that Covid is very survivable... If we consider that the arguments virus changes to something less survivable, even something like polio, your argument suddenly doesn't hold water very well.

"Why is there no negative propaganda about vaccines"... Lol, give me a fucking break.

 

[flenser]

I guess maybe it's the question of it being give mandated but... Does no one see the irony of gear heads being so opposed to a vaccine when there is a steady flow of threads regarding injection of questionable substances? I swear some guys in the community will try to inject anything... But not a vaccine lol.

No argument some here seem willing to inject anything if it might improve their body image. But I think I could make a case for (some) black market steroids being safer than (some) FDA approved vaccines. And that is in normal times which these definitely are not.

This particular vaccine is being offered at a time of unprecedented media censorship and exceptional government enforcement of very questionable laws. Study after study shows the futility of masks and lockdowns against infection, as well as the harm they cause to societies.

There is also the issue that many of the biggest supporters of the vaccine are also strong proponents of population control for the sake of the environment. Many have openly called the pandemic an opportunity to enact a new system of government (a.k.a. The Great Reset) that is environmentally and socially friendly, etc. Coupled together those two motives should scare the shit out of everyone.

Finally, the people mentioned above are the ones controlling the governments in almost every way. I don't trust the governments, I don't trust the people controlling them and I sure don't trust any products they recommend, with or without threats. And this vaccine product comes with a very real threat against those who don't want it.

 

[Eman]

No argument some here seem willing to inject anything if it might improve their body image. But I think I could make a case for (some) black market steroids being safer than (some) FDA approved vaccines. And that is in normal times which these definitely are not.

This particular vaccine is being offered at a time of unprecedented media censorship and exceptional government enforcement of very questionable laws. Study after study shows the futility of masks and lockdowns against infection, as well as the harm they cause to societies.

There is also the issue that many of the biggest supporters of the vaccine are also strong proponents of population control for the sake of the environment. Many have openly called the pandemic an opportunity to enact a new system of government (a.k.a. The Great Reset) that is environmentally and socially friendly, etc. Coupled together those two motives should scare the shit out of everyone.

Finally, the people mentioned above are the ones controlling the governments in almost every way. I don't trust the governments, I don't trust the people controlling them and I sure don't trust any products they recommend, with or without threats. And this vaccine product comes with a very real threat against those who don't want it.

I really don't disagree with anything you said, aside from the fact that I find the vaccine population control conspiracy extraordinarily far fetched... I'm really not arguing for or against the vaccine, I don't think the government should mandate much of anything - that doesn't take away from the irony that I think we both know that if a questionable new underground oil became available that boosted muscle mass by X%.. motherfuckers would be stabbing themselves with syringes.

Also, there's a limited series on amazon prime called "Uptopia". Highly recommend... It is really tough to watch in parts, although still more of a dark comedy. Kind of shocking how many parallels are happening in today's world with that show.. which was shot prior to all of the covid stuff.

 

[malfeasance]

This is where it’s heading.

Wear a mask.
Get the vaccine
Keep wearing the mask.

Oh covid mutated.
Wear a mask.
Get the NEW vaccine
Keep wearing the mask.

Oh covid mutated YET AGAIN.
Wear a mask.
Get the NEW vaccine
Keep wearing the mask.

Looking at the average scared dumbfuck citizen, they can probably milk this for another 5 years. People are legitimately brainwashed into thinking getting the virus will kill you or cause bad long term effects.

Yet no one is thinking rationally and considering all the collateral damages:

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San Francisco County has a population total of only a little over 800,000, so . . .

 

[No Gods No Masters]

"Yes, but that's negative propaganda"

... Say what? Propaganda is propaganda, it makes no difference if it promotes something or antagonizes it. No clue what your point is.

Why is there no negative propaganda about vaccines? I hesitate to ask.. but what the hell would there really be to say other than your argument that, "umm well the government is making me do it so I don't want to...". Some of your argument might fit given that Covid is very survivable... If we consider that the arguments virus changes to something less survivable, even something like polio, your argument suddenly doesn't hold water very well.

"Why is there no negative propaganda about vaccines"... Lol, give me a fucking break.

Not all propaganda is equal.

There's some propaganda that can be used to go against personal choice.

Like I said, if you want to take something of your own free will that's fine.

If you use propaganda to coerce a group of people into doing something against their will, forcing them to behave and obey, making them look like crack pots if they don't do what everyone else is doing.

It's sinister to shut down a system and make it so you can't do anything without your vaccine passport, where if you refuse your vaccine you can be fired from your job, in a world where there will be no other options, you will be required to comply no matter how long they have to wait before you crack.

And the polio vaccine had numerous fuckups. Read about the 1955 screw up where numerous children received polio from the vaccine and the paralysis that came with it for the rest of their lives. 200,000 children received active polio virus just from that one mistake alone.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

I really don't disagree with anything you said, aside from the fact that I find the vaccine population control conspiracy extraordinarily far fetched... I'm really not arguing for or against the vaccine, I don't think the government should mandate much of anything - that doesn't take away from the irony that I think we both know that if a questionable new underground oil became available that boosted muscle mass by X%.. motherfuckers would be stabbing themselves with syringes.

Population control isn't the point of the vaccine.

Control is the purpose. To condition your response in such a way that when the time comes you're like putty in their hands.

They're testing the waters, to see what your threshold is.

You think bill gates cares about your health. They want to skewer his head on stake in Africa and India for the harm he has done testing vaccines on poor populations.

Like I said, just leave people alone, let nature take its course. If you're ill either due to your fault or no fault, just let happen what will happen. We don't need these billionaire elites coming in to save us with things that don't really do any good. People like Bill Gates have a one track mind, whatever your problem, he has a vaccine to fix it......fuck this motherfucking nut job. What is up with this guys obsession and vaccines, he's college drop out, he has no medical training at all, he couldn't even make decent OS.

Steroids has absolutely nothing to do with this. We are such a small subsection of the population that what we do shouldn't be factored into the population at large vaccine debate.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

There is also the issue that many of the biggest supporters of the vaccine are also strong proponents of population control for the sake of the environment. Many have openly called the pandemic an opportunity to enact a new system of government (a.k.a. The Great Reset) that is environmentally and socially friendly, etc. Coupled together those two motives should scare the shit out of everyone.

Finally, the people mentioned above are the ones controlling the governments in almost every way. I don't trust the governments, I don't trust the people controlling them and I sure don't trust any products they recommend, with or without threats. And this vaccine product comes with a very real threat against those who don't want it.

The problem is the elites aren't really concerned with the environment. Bill Gates doesn't exactly have a small carbon footprint.

What Billy Boy is really interested in is landscaping, clearing the view of icky poor people, the peasant class.

You think this asshole cares about the environment? If you look at air and land travel, housing the tonnage of CO2 the super rich like Billy put out is mind boggling.

Just check out this cunts Yacht.


Now look at what the unabomber lived in for decades. This is man that actually walked his talk, he wasn't talking about the environment in the abstract.

 

[Eman]

Population control isn't the point of the vaccine.

Control is the purpose. To condition your response in such a way that when the time comes you're like putty in their hands.

They're testing the waters, to see what your threshold is.

You think bill gates cares about your health. They want to skewer his head on stake in Africa and India for the harm he has done testing vaccines on poor populations.

Like I said, just leave people alone, let nature take its course. If you're ill either due to your fault or no fault, just let happen what will happen. We don't need these billionaire elites coming in to save us with things that don't really do any good. People like Bill Gates have a one track mind, whatever your problem, he has a vaccine to fix it......fuck this motherfucking nut job. What is up with this guys obsession and vaccines, he's college drop out, he has no medical training at all, he couldn't even make decent OS.

Steroids has absolutely nothing to do with this. We are such a small subsection of the population that what we do shouldn't be factored into the population at large vaccine debate.

You really do not need to quote me with an essay on every post I make in this thread... I think your values and opinions are misguided at best and borderline manic at worst, we can leave it at that.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

You really do not need to quote me with an essay on every post I make in this thread... I think your values and opinions are misguided at best and borderline manic at worst, we can leave it at that.

Eman, we're doing our damnedest in this corner of the net to share some ideas and some of thing things we're noticing with regards to endless brainwashing covid campaign.

Every-time we turn on the news or flip to a homepage there's some blubbering idiot crying because their fat relative died or some thumbs up celebrity receiving a saline placebo for the camera to reassure the sheep.

You gotta admit this is really fucked. Come on dude!

 

[Munky]

It’s a personal choice and health issue, if you are a carrier and asymptamatic you are at risk of infecting someone like your grandma etc or anybody higher risk it could be there death sentence and one might not even be aware of that and or give a shit of this problem,it’s like the right to not wear a condom or smoke cigarettes it’s your body or share needles if your a junky in some of the higher level fentanyl cities like Portland, Chicago etc , nobody is going to force you to get vaccinated it’s like abortiion women can alter there hormones and take birth control no questions asked but a man can’t make his testosterone healthier and get testosterone and alter his hormones for better quality of life, in time this pandemic will be history and it’s no ones fault all thou the government is getting blamed and now taking credit, it’s something not to be taken lightly or be ignorant about, los angles county a person dies every 15 seconds of covid 19 and the nurses and doctors feel totally fucked and pissed on as people say it’s no big deal and they are on the front lines daily and they are people watching people die and suffer and my friend is a nurse and was crying because of how media and misinformation is getting more attention then reality of death in hospitals , so anyway I’m doing my best for myself to be helping the situation I want to be part of the solution not the problem , getting tested is the only way you can say you don’t have covid 19 , that’s pure science and medical proof not here say from a undiagnosed individual or misinformed person, who really knows the truth?