Testosterone Cypionate without BB?

[Oroku_Saki]

Since the TestE Raws from China are all causing trouble, i'm about to do my first brew with TestC.

Now i would like to know if someone of you already tried to brew it without solvents like BB or EO and if yes, at which concentration?

I'm asking because TestE would hold in almost any carrier at 250mg with 1-2% BA without the need for a solvent.

I already searched the forum but couldn't find anything except for recipes with solvents.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Old-timer36]

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[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Um yea you could. I brew mine at like .8% ba. It would be thick as fuck you would have to warm it up unless you used a big ass pin. Even warming it up wouldnt be enough but it would hold solution. I work with this old guy who used to juice in the 80s when you could easily get whatever you wanted. He said he used to use a 18g pin for his shit. This is anechdotal obviously but I wonder if they used to make it with way less or no bb

 

[No Gods No Masters]

You'll get a thick glop of crash. It will look sort of like gelatin.

You can try brewing at say 100mg/ml with mct, 1-2% ba and see if it will hold.

Cyp can become a mess if it starts crashing while you're filtering.

So I suggest going with 15% BB and save yourself the headache.

 

[Boss hog]

You'll get a thick glop of crash. It will look sort of like gelatin.

You can try brewing at say 100mg/ml with mct, 1-2% ba and see if it will hold.

Cyp can become a mess if it starts crashing while you're filtering.

So I suggest going with 15% BB and save yourself the headache.

I have made 200cyp at 1/14 with mct oil and those never crashed so it might hold at 100mg with MCT /EO with no BB.

The best I could get 250 to hold was at 1/14 with MCT oil. That was my standard recipe for 250 cyp and even then on occasions I would get a random bottle start to crash.

 

[Old-timer36]

Is there a list somewhere i haven't found with the recipes that pharma uses like Bayer Pfizer Watson?

Edit i have seen many recipes but not much on copies of said pharma recipes. Those are what I would like to look at.

 

[Oroku_Saki]

Thank you for your input guys. So, In conclusion it doesn't make sense to brew it without solvents. I don't really want to experiment with concentrations as low as 100mg/ml because the volume would get too big for comfortable usage.

I'll start with the recipe from Boss hog (1/14) and will see how that goes.

Thanks again.

OldTimer, the recipes of phrama-products are often online, pfizer for example:

http://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=1740

 

[Old-timer36]

Thank you for your input guys. So, In conclusion it doesn't make sense to brew it without solvents. I don't really want to experiment with concentrations as low as 100mg/ml because the volume would get too big for comfortable usage.

I'll start with the recipe from Boss hog (1/14) and will see how that goes.

Thanks again.

OldTimer, the recipes of phrama-products are often online, pfizer for example:

http://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=1740

Thanks I didnt see that when I looked but its exactly what I was looking for

 

[Jet Labs]

Why the fuck would anyone want to make test with EO instead of BB? Watson test-cyp is brewed doing .9/20 and it come out absolutely painless at 200mg/ml!

 

[janoshik]

I am fairly sure, I've tested 200 mg/ml test cyp without any EO or BB at all, so it's definitely doable.

 

[Jet Labs]

I am fairly sure, I've tested 200 mg/ml test cyp without any EO or BB at all, so it's definitely doable.

I'm pretty sure test-cyp at 200mg/ml in oil with no bb or eo would crash so hard it would look like ice.

 

[Joe383]

Don't be afraid of the Test E. Just get some and brew it or get some BB and make the test C. Keep it simple and avoid potential complications down the road.

 

[Boss hog]

I'm pretty sure test-cyp at 200mg/ml in oil with no bb or eo would crash so hard it would look like ice.

I pretty sure it will crash as well. Although its not as finicky as some make it it out to be but you do need some bb in there to get it to hold

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Um yea you could. I brew mine at like .8% ba. It would be thick as fuck you would have to warm it up unless you used a big ass pin. Even warming it up wouldnt be enough but it would hold solution. I work with this old guy who used to juice in the 80s when you could easily get whatever you wanted. He said he used to use a 18g pin for his shit. This is anechdotal obviously but I wonder if they used to make it with way less or no bb

I thought I amended this. You def have to use heat when ya mix it and if you can use mct. You would also need to keep it at room temperature. Hypothetically from what Ive seen a lot of raws are soluable in oil. I have never been able to find concentrations or anything about what the experience is like.

 

[janoshik]

I'm pretty sure test-cyp at 200mg/ml in oil with no bb or eo would crash so hard it would look like ice.

*shrug*

 

[Nilatac]

Any reason why you wouldn't use BB?

Test C I didn't try to brew without solvent but don't think that you can make it stay stable. Use at least 10% to be safe and don't keep in cold places.
Safe yourself from all the headache and don't try to invent the wheel. If you only find recipes with BB in is a reason for that

 

[Jet Labs]

*shrug*

Shrug what?

 

[janoshik]

Shrug what?

I mean, I'm fairly sure I've tested I've tested 200 mg/ml test cyp without any EO or BB at all, but I don't feel like arguing or spending time going through my data to support my claim.

 

[Oroku_Saki]

Any reason why you wouldn't use BB?

Unfortunately i'm one of the few people that get some pip from BB, nothing too bad, but it's annoying.
As soon as the raws arrive, i'll start testing some recipes with different concertrations, carriers and amount of BB used.

If you are interested, i'll keep the thread updated.

Thanks to everyone for the partecipation in the discussion.

 

[Joe383]

Unfortunately i'm one of the few people that get some pip from BB, nothing too bad, but it's annoying.
As soon as the raws arrive, i'll start testing some recipes with different concertrations, carriers and amount of BB used.

If you are interested, i'll keep the thread updated.

Thanks to everyone for the partecipation in the discussion.

To help out with crashing maybe try storing it on your hot water tank. It shouldn't get too hot but will keep it a little warmer than room temp. I haven't tried it with gear but have stored other things that way for temp reasons.