Knew a guy that used to sell to pros, orals at the 200-300mg per day mark were not uncommon.
I think the sides and health scares happen a lot more than ppl think, you just don't hear abt them
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I think the sides and health scares happen a lot more than ppl think, you just don't hear abt them
Ferenor
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Cool to hear this since I want to try a high test only cycle.
Test_Subject
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I can't even imagine. My appetite goes to shit on 100mg of anadrol. 2-300mg and I'd waste away.
Makes me wonder how they manage to get their calories in and what they take to promote their appetite.
Bumpygooch
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2g EQ and a ghrelin agonist?
Test_Subject
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That would help. EQ turns my brain into a fat kid brain at even at 750mg and I'll eat everything in the house. That's mostly why I like it for bulking so much.
750 test and 750 EQ gets it done.
Bumpygooch
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I’d love to try it, but, my HCT and RBC tend to become elevated easily, I don’t want to have to start self phlebotomizing every 2 weeks.
1,500 of test is minimal to gain size at a different level.
3,000 of test is supposed to be a “game changer”.
I can’t imagine how I’d function on that much gear though.
Bumpygooch
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Dave Crosland frequently discusses how terribly he felt on 3g/week. 1 vial of 300mg/ml test e a week. Fuck off. My dysmorphia is pretty pervasive, but, I don’t think it could ever compel me to run 3g, let alone 1.5g(as a non competitor) Having run 840/week, 1g is most likely in the cards, it seems.
MuscleFreak
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Most run between 1.5-2g of test,3g + is very rare only some very tall but also big guys
Ferenor
Member
Lol I'm 187 cm so if I want to see real size I must up the dose, well.
MuscleFreak
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I am just 174 haha
Agreed, this has been the general dosing consensus for years now
MuscleFreak
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For me the best is 250-300mg test e + 100mg p EOD
Ferenor
Member
My maximum dose was 750 mg solo ... But I'm not that big compared to all of you. Every time I was blasting I got injured so I never finished a cycle currently ahaha.
I will say that whenever I go beyond TRT and use prop to bridge that gap I do feel better. For example, if I went 700mg a week test and 500 was from prop I would feel better than all 700 from test e or cyp
MuscleFreak
Member
I also always like to mix long and short esters,e or c to keep it staple all the time and binds better then prop to aromatise less and i can feel that extra kick from faster ester
RebornNez
Member
I mean it could be because short esters don't accumulate so on paper your dose is the same but give it a few weeks and the long ester will accumulate
Plate Smacker
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Low to me is 600mg, medium is 1.2g, high is anything above 2g... ultra high is 3g, ultra high +1 is 4g, ultra high +2 is 5g, up to 6g and more is jerking off with Thanos Glove, but the stones are inside the palm, upside down, pointy part of gems touching your jiggly bits...
Personally, anything above 1.2g isn't really needed. I believe those that do it are reaping the benefits of the increased estrogen, although can be harmful long term. Some will know what I am referring to.
The most I will do after every crazy thing I have done...
Is start at 500 Test E and work up to 900 Test E
Deca at 600mg/wk max.
If throwing in Tren E, 600mg/wk max
Small runs of 3 weeks winstrol at certain points.
Standard is 10mg Cialis ED, and only block with Nolva. No AI.
As far as growing... and size, honestly, can be done on 500mg easy. So why do I take more?
We are not all the same. I don't respond as well to those lower dosages. You have to find the sweet spot.
300-400 will make it easy to maintain, and you can grow some.
250 is my cruise.
Right now cruising on 300, for a bridge, or fake cruise, of around 10 weeks. Then bloodwork.
Personally, anything above 1.2g isn't really needed. I believe those that do it are reaping the benefits of the increased estrogen, although can be harmful long term. Some will know what I am referring to.
The most I will do after every crazy thing I have done...
Is start at 500 Test E and work up to 900 Test E
Deca at 600mg/wk max.
If throwing in Tren E, 600mg/wk max
Small runs of 3 weeks winstrol at certain points.
Standard is 10mg Cialis ED, and only block with Nolva. No AI.
As far as growing... and size, honestly, can be done on 500mg easy. So why do I take more?
We are not all the same. I don't respond as well to those lower dosages. You have to find the sweet spot.
300-400 will make it easy to maintain, and you can grow some.
250 is my cruise.
Right now cruising on 300, for a bridge, or fake cruise, of around 10 weeks. Then bloodwork.
malfeasance
Member
Have you actually run 6 grams a week???? If so, I would really like to hear more about what that was like (the good AND the bad).
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You say "anything above 1.2g isn't really needed." But needed for what? Is an NPC amateur in men's open who wants to go to Nationals and qualify for a pro card in the next 2 years going to not need anything above 1.2g, in your opinion?
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As for 500 mg, well, it might also depend on your size, right? Once you have outgrown that 500mg, eating more is just going to make you fatter, not add muscle. I firmly believe that there is a size/dose relationship (just as we all know there is a dose/side effects relationship).
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You say "anything above 1.2g isn't really needed." But needed for what? Is an NPC amateur in men's open who wants to go to Nationals and qualify for a pro card in the next 2 years going to not need anything above 1.2g, in your opinion?
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As for 500 mg, well, it might also depend on your size, right? Once you have outgrown that 500mg, eating more is just going to make you fatter, not add muscle. I firmly believe that there is a size/dose relationship (just as we all know there is a dose/side effects relationship).
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