Should I scrap my first brew?

[KCMO]

i made 40ml of 200mg/ml test cyp, and within minutes of bottling it it started to develop large crystals. Over the next 24 hours they got really dense.

My process was to heat 25ml gso to around 95c, added in 8g tc, then 1 ml ba and 8ml bb. I let it sit at 95c for about 10 minutes, then sucked it all in a giant syringe and sent it through a sterile syringe Filter into presterilized vials.

to fix, I put 25g needles in the 4 vials and set them on top of the heat plate for about 30 minutes. The plate was set to 95c. 12 hours later they are still crystal clear.

my concerns are this: the brew looked clear when I initially bottled. Was it mixed evenly enough where split into the 4 vials, the dose will still be accurate between them? It should have been at least a suspension at that point, right?

I read a few references after saying that I should let it cool some before filtering. I don’t see any signs of filter media in the vials, should I be good there?

and spending extra time on heat, did I potentially damage the hormone or remove solvents?

the vials look beautiful, I could stare at them for hours lol. But if I have to trash them it’s not a huge deal. What would you guys recommend?

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

You should dissolve hormone with BB only for first... in a hot stirring plate where you set temperature, you don’t need to go over 50 C.
After hormone is solved in BB, let it cool down a bit and add your carrier oil, your BA, stir, warm a little, and filter . You can filter while warm, it speeds up filtering, so better drawing from the beaker where you dissolved hormone and bb while keeping it warm, so you can add in the filter bottle warm oil... or if you use just a syringe filter good luck, I suggest you to set a movie during your filtering. I like Star Wars, maybe you could watch Star Wars 1 2 and 3 during your 40mls filtering. And you ll get Popeye arms for sure, or use a culking gun

 

[KCMO]

Thanks for the info, I’ll make sure to follow that process next time. Should I toss the 4 vials I made?

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

I don’t know, try this way, put vials 15min at 100 C in the oven, and see if it can definitely fix it... that’s a tip for fixing Crashed Gear which some vet wrote here on Meso... don’t remember who exactly but it’s solid

but I don’t know if it can def fix your... usually that’s advices for cloudy gear, so, very little crashed... try and see... otherwise trash then that’s not big deal...

Manage to have a good hot stirring hot plate and maybe even some bottle top filters

 

[thesaucygeneral]

Ya, I’d reheat the vials too. However, I suspect it’ll crash again once it cools down.

 

[KCMO]

I reheated them and they were fine for a couple days. I went to use on the third day and two vials were crashed to hell again. I tossed them all, I'll try again soon.

Thanks for the wisdom guys

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

You couldve just kept re heating....and used them then next time.coming up with a different plan. Ive heard of people pinning crashed gear they said it just hurts more

 

[Boss hog]

i made 40ml of 200mg/ml test cyp, and within minutes of bottling it it started to develop large crystals. Over the next 24 hours they got really dense.

My process was to heat 25ml gso to around 95c, added in 8g tc, then 1 ml ba and 8ml bb. I let it sit at 95c for about 10 minutes, then sucked it all in a giant syringe and sent it through a sterile syringe Filter into presterilized vials.

to fix, I put 25g needles in the 4 vials and set them on top of the heat plate for about 30 minutes. The plate was set to 95c. 12 hours later they are still crystal clear.

my concerns are this: the brew looked clear when I initially bottled. Was it mixed evenly enough where split into the 4 vials, the dose will still be accurate between them? It should have been at least a suspension at that point, right?

I read a few references after saying that I should let it cool some before filtering. I don’t see any signs of filter media in the vials, should I be good there?

and spending extra time on heat, did I potentially damage the hormone or remove solvents?

the vials look beautiful, I could stare at them for hours lol. But if I have to trash them it’s not a huge deal. What would you guys recommend?

If it was me and each vial is 10 ml I would add .5ml to a vial and see if that hold.
When I make 50 ml of Tcyp in GSO I use 14 ml bb and it seems to hold just fine. 8ml might not be enough for it to hold.

 

[xgunx]

I reheated them and they were fine for a couple days. I went to use on the third day and two vials were crashed to hell again. I tossed them all, I'll try again soon.

Thanks for the wisdom guys

Should not have thrown it away. Just fix it. Stop it from crashing. Waste of time and money throwing it out. I made tren that didn't hold at 260 and walked it down 4 times until it held at 220.

Also I'm not sure why your mix didn't hold. I made 40 ml of test cyp at 260 in cso at 1% ba and 19% bb and holds fine.

 

[Oroku_Saki]

Also I'm not sure why your mix didn't hold. I made 40 ml of test cyp at 260 in cso at 1% ba and 19% bb and holds fine.

He must have done something wrong. I brewed it at 1/15 for 200mg/ml in CSO and it holds perfectly. He used more than 2% BA, 20%BB and to much oil for 200mg/ml, so it's a little less than 200mg. Somethings off.

 

[xgunx]

He must have done something wrong. I brewed it at 1/15 for 200mg/ml in CSO and it holds perfectly. He used more than 2% BA, 20%BB and to much oil for 200mg/ml, so it's a little less than 200mg. Somethings off.

Yeah I didn't even do the math but could easily tell.

 

[KCMO]

I used a brew calculator for ingredients quantity, I did overkill solvents by a little. It called for .8ml BA and 7.2ml BB, everything else was exactly what it called for to make 40 ml at 200mg/ml. I used the calc on basskiller's website.

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I definitely messed something up lol, if you're supposed to dissolve the hormone in the solvent first that's where I messed up. I'm not too worried about the time or money investment, it was under $10 in product and maybe an hour total mess around time. I don't know for sure if it was crashed or if the filter came apart and the stuff was filter debris, to play it safe I just trashed it. Before I need my next vial I'll try it again with the advice you guys gave.

 

[xgunx]

I used a brew calculator for ingredients quantity, I did overkill solvents by a little. It called for .8ml BA and 7.2ml BB, everything else was exactly what it called for to make 40 ml at 200mg/ml. I used the calc on basskiller's website.

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I definitely messed something up lol, if you're supposed to dissolve the hormone in the solvent first that's where I messed up. I'm not too worried about the time or money investment, it was under $10 in product and maybe an hour total mess around time. I don't know for sure if it was crashed or if the filter came apart and the stuff was filter debris, to play it safe I just trashed it. Before I need my next vial I'll try it again with the advice you guys gave.

You can mix the ingredients at anytime or combination. Low heat 50c or less or none at all. Either way you will wanna get it clear then leave it for a little bit to cool (I toss it in the fridge for 10 minutes) take it out and see if it's still holding or fogging and crystalizing. The closer it gets to holding without crashing the longer and colder it will take to start the crash.

That tren e I made at 260 crashed right away. Dropped it to 247 then 237 then 230 then 220 lol everytime it started golden then tiny crystals then white as fuck.

This part I find important if you haven't already tried a recipe knowing it works well. Even if you have, right down each thing like
10g powder
1ml ba
6ml bb
30 ml cso
Then after adding one check it off! If your expirementing and have to add again this is a life saver right down each additional additive as you go. Those were random numbers btw. Also start with less solvents you can always add but never remove to fix it.

If you have anymore questions hit us up. Anymore problems don't scrap it first just cover it and store it because most cases it can be fixed.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

You can mix the ingredients at anytime or combination. Low heat 50c or less or none at all. Either way you will wanna get it clear then leave it for a little bit to cool (I toss it in the fridge for 10 minutes) take it out and see if it's still holding or fogging and crystalizing. The closer it gets to holding without crashing the longer and colder it will take to start the crash.

That tren e I made at 260 crashed right away. Dropped it to 247 then 237 then 230 then 220 lol everytime it started golden then tiny crystals then white as fuck.

This part I find important if you haven't already tried a recipe knowing it works well. Even if you have, right down each thing like
10g powder
1ml ba
6ml bb
30 ml cso
Then after adding one check it off! If your expirementing and have to add again this is a life saver right down each additional additive as you go. Those were random numbers btw. Also start with less solvents you can always add but never remove to fix it.

If you have anymore questions hit us up. Anymore problems don't scrap it first just cover it and store it because most cases it can be fixed.

Didnt understand if crashed gear is g2g or not... what does it change? Just some pip? Why should it lose potency?

 

[xgunx]

Didnt understand if crashed gear is g2g or not... what does it change? Just some pip? Why should it lose potency?

???? Somewhat confused. I think maybe what I posted came off wrong.

I was just saying not to throw it out it can be fixed. Usually by lowering the dosage by cutting it with more oil or solvents until it holds.

Trying to give him some pointers for next time.
Don't toss it out so soon.
Keep up with each thing you put in it in case it crashes and you need to adjust it, that way you know what it is at the end also.
Not sure about the pip statement but I wouldn't use crashed gear. I would fix it by lowering the dose if possible.