Hey guys I’m new to brewing but I’m just wondering about the process of mixing the raws , bb, ba and carrier oils. Should the raws be mixed in any certain order such as the bb and ba should be mixed together , then the powder and then the oil or does it matter and is it the same for all steroids , esters Etc.or only certain ones. Thanks for any info you can give me.
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Correctionnn
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Dissolve the raws in your solvent and ba then add your oil.
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
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Don t put BA at first with BB (@Correctionnn) because it will evaporate with heath.. add BA last, before filtering...
Let the mix with BB and Raws cool before mix with oil... better bring oil to the BB - Raw mixture’s temperature before mix them all..
Once you have the whole solution , warm it a little before filter to speed up a little the process..
you dont need to use more than 50 C in every process... almost never
Let the mix with BB and Raws cool before mix with oil... better bring oil to the BB - Raw mixture’s temperature before mix them all..
Once you have the whole solution , warm it a little before filter to speed up a little the process..
you dont need to use more than 50 C in every process... almost never
Correctionnn
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I was under the impression using heat to force into solution is frowned upon, at least with test. Are using heat with all compounds?
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
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i wont go over 50 C with all compounds... Tren is maybe the most heat sensitive..
Just curious why you say this because the boiling point for BA is 205 degrees c. I see some guys do what you said, others do the raws with bb and ba first, and then some do all at once. And others add BA After filtering lol.
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
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I do the same with BB only , cover the becker with cellophane and I see the vapor condenses...
thesaucygeneral
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I wouldn’t stress about when you add BA unless u plan on annihilating the solution with heat.
I’ve added BA and then cooked at 170F and always been fine. (Don’t cook tren that high)
I’ve added BA and then cooked at 170F and always been fine. (Don’t cook tren that high)
by putting the cellophane over the top you truly dont know what is condensing onto the cellophane. is it BA or BB? it could be but i doubt that low of a heat vaporizers them. more than likely its water in the air condensing on the cellophane.
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
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Good point.. but for peace of mind I cover it and add BA after filtering
Wait...what! You add the ba AFTER filtering?
Correct. Could also be impurities.
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
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Mistake... meant before not after
TrennedOutLunatic
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Don't bother.
Weigh the compound.
Measure the BA/BB with syringes.
Throw it all in the beaker.
Heat to 50c max. Swirl.
Optionally, get a magnetic stirrer with hotplate.
Done.
Nothing will happen to any of the solvents or to the oil lmao.
Check solvents' boiling points and see if you are even getting close at 50c.
Check compound's melting point and see if you are even getting close at 50c.
How:
You want information about trenbolone acetate.
You google Trenbolone acetate CAS Number.
(CAS number = Chemical Abstracts Service number.)
10161-34-9 is the CASRN of trenbolone acetate.
You google 10161-34-9 melting point.
You check multiple sources. No mistakes.
Keep the temperature way lower than that.
Half of that if you want.
50c suits all of the compounds I've done till now.
Tren A/E/H
Test C/P/E/U
Nandrolone D/NPP
Mast E/P
EQ
Primo E
1)20%BB
2)2%BA
*1 and 2 measured with a syringe and thrown right in. Straight away with no delays and shit,throw the carrier in. Get a graduated beaker and straight up fill it to the desired level with your carrier oil. No fancy numbers. Displacements my ass.
3)EO(What i use. Pick any) MCT,GSO,CSO
Stove will be hard to regulate the heat.
You will need a glass thermometer in the beaker all the time plus your eyes on it.
Invest in a magnetic stirrer hotplate.
It will cost you 60$.
You will buy one sooner or later. Make it sooner.
Ebay.
Syringe filters and bottle top filters. Alibaba.
1)PVDF 0.22um 4$ each bottle top filter. Case of 24. 3 years shelf life.
They sell the same ones on ebay. Literally the same fucking brand, 5+ times the alibaba price.
2)Syringe filters PVDF 0.22um 0.50$ each. Case of 50/100. 3 years shelf life.
Fuck 2.
Go straight to 1. You will sooner or later so let's make it sooner.
Gl45 Lower units to screw the filters on. You buy these separately. I hear the plastic ones crack. Ebay.
25$ vacuum pump from ebay.
Run the tubing to the filter. Use tensioner on the pump part. Make sure that there are no air leaks.
The pump will need a 12v converter. Costs pennies. Just get one and run the wiring.
Long esters 200mg/ml
Short esters 100mg/ml
Equipoise 500mg/ml minimum. Yeah I know,weird. No you won't have pip.
Just get over with it and brew it like a man at 650mg/ml. 0 pip. Equipoise raws are liquid in room temperature.
These concentrations are problems free and cause no issues. The solutions will be stable as fuck and pip-less.
Find the carrier oil that suits you.
If you are in the US and doing small batches,you can filter into ready presterilized vials. If you trust that they are correctly sterilized.
If you are in Europe,buying ready presterilized vials is expensive, and troublesome. Buy from eBay UK if you insist.
Otherwise, crimp your own.
I can help with this except from the sterilization.
There are many protocols to sterilize the vials,rubbers,aluminum seals. This is the only thing I will leave on you.
Yeah. Crimp your own. Fuck the precrimped ones.
I use an autoclave to sterilize the vials.
Ask anything you want.
Weigh the compound.
Measure the BA/BB with syringes.
Throw it all in the beaker.
Heat to 50c max. Swirl.
Optionally, get a magnetic stirrer with hotplate.
Done.
Nothing will happen to any of the solvents or to the oil lmao.
Check solvents' boiling points and see if you are even getting close at 50c.
Check compound's melting point and see if you are even getting close at 50c.
How:
You want information about trenbolone acetate.
You google Trenbolone acetate CAS Number.
(CAS number = Chemical Abstracts Service number.)
10161-34-9 is the CASRN of trenbolone acetate.
You google 10161-34-9 melting point.
You check multiple sources. No mistakes.
Keep the temperature way lower than that.
Half of that if you want.
50c suits all of the compounds I've done till now.
Tren A/E/H
Test C/P/E/U
Nandrolone D/NPP
Mast E/P
EQ
Primo E
1)20%BB
2)2%BA
*1 and 2 measured with a syringe and thrown right in. Straight away with no delays and shit,throw the carrier in. Get a graduated beaker and straight up fill it to the desired level with your carrier oil. No fancy numbers. Displacements my ass.
3)EO(What i use. Pick any) MCT,GSO,CSO
Stove will be hard to regulate the heat.
You will need a glass thermometer in the beaker all the time plus your eyes on it.
Invest in a magnetic stirrer hotplate.
It will cost you 60$.
You will buy one sooner or later. Make it sooner.
Ebay.
Syringe filters and bottle top filters. Alibaba.
1)PVDF 0.22um 4$ each bottle top filter. Case of 24. 3 years shelf life.
They sell the same ones on ebay. Literally the same fucking brand, 5+ times the alibaba price.
2)Syringe filters PVDF 0.22um 0.50$ each. Case of 50/100. 3 years shelf life.
Fuck 2.
Go straight to 1. You will sooner or later so let's make it sooner.
Gl45 Lower units to screw the filters on. You buy these separately. I hear the plastic ones crack. Ebay.
25$ vacuum pump from ebay.
Run the tubing to the filter. Use tensioner on the pump part. Make sure that there are no air leaks.
The pump will need a 12v converter. Costs pennies. Just get one and run the wiring.
Long esters 200mg/ml
Short esters 100mg/ml
Equipoise 500mg/ml minimum. Yeah I know,weird. No you won't have pip.
Just get over with it and brew it like a man at 650mg/ml. 0 pip. Equipoise raws are liquid in room temperature.
These concentrations are problems free and cause no issues. The solutions will be stable as fuck and pip-less.
Find the carrier oil that suits you.
If you are in the US and doing small batches,you can filter into ready presterilized vials. If you trust that they are correctly sterilized.
If you are in Europe,buying ready presterilized vials is expensive, and troublesome. Buy from eBay UK if you insist.
Otherwise, crimp your own.
I can help with this except from the sterilization.
There are many protocols to sterilize the vials,rubbers,aluminum seals. This is the only thing I will leave on you.
Yeah. Crimp your own. Fuck the precrimped ones.
I use an autoclave to sterilize the vials.
Ask anything you want.
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FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
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TrennedOutLunatic
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If it wasn't for the
I wouldn't have answered.
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FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
New Member
anyway Ethyl Alcohol has a boling point of 79 C but I always see it evaporate at room temp... so , I add BA before filtering because I don’t trust NEITHER THE FUCKIN AIR in this rigged world... they re watching us... and hearing us... all the time...
TrennedOutLunatic
Banned
Ethyl Alcohol is not the same as Benzyl Alcohol.
Ethyl alcohol is Ethanol.
Benzyl Alcohol, CAS 100-51-6
Ethyl Alcohol-Ethanol, CAS 64-17-5
All of this is from the MSDS.
The rest is broscience.
