Confused on this lecture on HGH... Very knowledgeable People please, no fake natties no China middlemen

People with shit genetics will ALWAYS be using more PEDS it's as simple as that and gifted guys will use the least amount necessary. Look at Platz, he combined his amazing genetics with MASSIVE amounts of hard work and most likely moderate PED use and the guy had the best legs of anyone ever lol and I highly doubt he was using a shit ton of hgh/slin back then. It's genetics combined with hard work/will power and PED use is dead fucking last imho :cool:
I got my PT certification from Platz back in the late 90s. Got to do a day in the gym with him. He had some great stories, but he was kind of an asshole tho. [emoji1787]
 
If you are really into a thing....like,really into a thing and it's pretty expensive...
You will find "ways" to "fund" it.
I am not talking about an 9-5 job.
I am not even talking about legal or ordinary stuff.

But fuck me,18iu of serostim is a fuckload of money.

It would require quite some non-legal shit to fund it.

I don't really know. Just my thoughts.

I don't know if my English makes sense?
I did not even know you were a non-native English speaker. I'd say your English is very good.
 
Kkkkooolll... tell me EVERYTHING please... stories... training... asshole etc
Can't tell if you're fucking with me or not, but one story that sticks out is he said Arnold's secret to being full on stage was carrot cake. He said that he and Franco would literally take a carrot cake on the plane with them with its own seat and eat it a few hours before getting on stage. The training shit was cool, too. I didn't actually physically train with him, he demonstrated a bunch of exercises for the group of us getting certified. Watching him squat was pretty cool. As far as the assholeness, he was just really arrogant and carried himself like a 6' 4" guy, despite being 5' 8". Dude still had/has the best hair in BB, as well as the legs.
 
Can't tell if you're fucking with me or not, but one story that sticks out is he said Arnold's secret to being full on stage was carrot cake. He said that he and Franco would literally take a carrot cake on the plane with them with its own seat and eat it a few hours before getting on stage. The training shit was cool, too. I didn't actually physically train with him, he demonstrated a bunch of exercises for the group of us getting certified. Watching him squat was pretty cool. As far as the assholeness, he was just really arrogant and carried himself like a 6' 4" guy, despite being 5' 8". Dude still had/has the best hair in BB, as well as the legs.
Wasnt fucking... you spoke about Tom Platz... not about a @PandaRep ’s seminar... so my curiosity was legit.. fuck arrogant people... I love John Meadows <3 ahah
 
Well, seriously, how do broke bodybuilders trying to compete and get big buy all of this growth hormone? Sure, after you are at the Olympia level, you probably have several hundred thousand dollars a year in endorsement contracts, but new pros, and amateurs, do not make any money from bodybuilding. Many of them are working full time and trying to bodybuild and make that into a living. They can't do 18 iu of serostim a day. How did your top level amateur acquaintance afford that?

If @master.on were still here, he would tell you G4P. He'd probably be right in this instance too. Anything to succeed.
 
If @master.on were still here, he would tell you G4P. He'd probably be right in this instance too. Anything to succeed.

Most people i know who are tight on funds sacrifice by not owning much in the way of toys/property, don't take expensive vacations, don't own expensive clothing, don't own a car, don't eat out and so on. I've lived that way most my life as well and my only regret is not traveling.
 
If you are really into a thing....like,really into a thing and it's pretty expensive...
You will find "ways" to "fund" it.
I am not talking about an 9-5 job.
I am not even talking about legal or ordinary stuff.

But fuck me,18iu of serostim is a fuckload of money.

It would require quite some non-legal shit to fund it.

I don't really know. Just my thoughts.

I don't know if my English makes sense?

I did not even know you were a non-native English speaker. I'd say your English is very good.
I didn't know if I was passing my point with this wording. Thanks though!
If @master.on were still here, he would tell you G4P. He'd probably be right in this instance too. Anything to succeed.
That's one of the things I meant.

Hmm...G4P cashes. It really does.
I am telling you. Eh!!
 
Most people i know who are tight on funds sacrifice by not owning much in the way of toys/property, don't take expensive vacations, don't own expensive clothing, don't own a car, don't eat out and so on. I've lived that way most my life as well and my only regret is not traveling.
Well, fucking travel! You only get one life in this world. Get out and see some of it.

Make decisions based on what will cause you the least regret later. Go see Mt. Rushmore or Carlsbad Caverns or explore the giant Douglas fir forests of the Pacific Northwest, or the redwood forests in California, or find a state park, national forest, or national park near you and go for a long hike. Have you ever seen Old Faithful blow? If no, then go do it! Eifel Tower, Neuschwanstein Castle, the Colosseum, Stonehenge . . . get going! I want to go big game hunting in Africa before I get too old or all the snowflakes who mean well but don't understand the consequences of their decisions ban it.
 
Well, fucking travel! You only get one life in this world. Get out and see some of it.

Make decisions based on what will cause you the least regret later. Go see Mt. Rushmore or Carlsbad Caverns or explore the giant Douglas fir forests of the Pacific Northwest, or the redwood forests in California, or find a state park, national forest, or national park near you and go for a long hike. Have you ever seen Old Faithful blow? If no, then go do it! Eifel Tower, Neuschwanstein Castle, the Colosseum, Stonehenge . . . get going! I want to go big game hunting in Africa before I get too old or all the snowflakes who mean well but don't understand the consequences of their decisions ban it.

Only insecure cunts kill for sport! If you are serious go sport hunt child diddlers or women beaters and leave the animals the fuck alone!
 
Only insecure cunts kill for sport! If you are serious go sport hunt child diddlers or women beaters and leave the animals the fuck alone!
He has a point, I understand killing animals for the meat, like a deer or a hog or whatever, but killing for sports in a safari it's just barbaric imho.
 
What makes you anti-hunter types think the meat is not consumed? You sure are taking strong positions in your ignorance.



It is disturbing watching basically all of the younger generation making political decisions (like outlawing hunting in Africa) based upon feelings.


"The problem isn't that Johnny can't read.
The problem isn't even that Johnny can't think.
The problem is that Johnny doesn't know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling."

Thomas Sowell
 
What makes you anti-hunter types think the meat is not consumed? You sure are taking strong positions in your ignorance.



It is disturbing watching basically all of the younger generation making political decisions (like outlawing hunting in Africa) based upon feelings.


"The problem isn't that Johnny can't read.
The problem isn't even that Johnny can't think.
The problem is that Johnny doesn't know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling."

Thomas Sowell

No you don't understand, you are not eating the meat, someonelse is eating it, you are not killing for necessity or to improve your diet eating wild meat like I have seen some ppl here do, you kill for fun. I'm not anti hunter I'm against killing wildlife for amusement, it doesn't matter if someonelse is gonna eat the meat.

If you kill an animal you should respect the life taken and eat the meat and so you should kill only what you can eat.

That's my opinion, you have yours. Many of the big five animals that get shoot in Africa are endangered species, and that's why many of those countries ban thropy hunting periodically or for many years. I see no fun in killing a lion or an elephant or a ghepard, those are beautiful animals that I wouldn't shoot it unless I'm gonna personally eat it and there is a need to shoot it as well.

I go hunting in my own country, I kill boars mostly and deers when it's allowed if there are enough around. Boars have never been close to extinction, actually is the complete opposite, you Must hunt boars because they have no more natural predators and so they will proliferate without any limits if not hunted down.

So fuck off with your antihunter talks, I know what it means to take an animal life and I do it when it makes sense in the big picture, I sure as hell I don't travel on a fucking plane to go to Africa and shoot a fucking lion or whatever and hope to bring home a fucking throphy.
 
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