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Do steroids damage mental health?

Gaia262 said:
No doubt the roids exasperated it.
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100% I’ve experienced it myself. It’s never a good idea to start a cycle when your life isn’t stable and in order.

not quite to those extremes but it made things harder to juggle ESPECIALLY when you have no idea how to balance your e2 and blood work.
 
Gaia262 said:
Anecdotally , I have seen people's mental health deteriorate with steroid use.

I used to work out at the same gym as Candice Armstrong who used tren, she would talk to herself and have conversations with herself , it was sad to see.

Vitalyzd (tren user ) and Connor Murphy (type of AAS use not confirmed) are both mentally ill now and were previously hyper social before.

It really does fry your brain for this reason Im stepping away from AAS and only doing the safest possible cycle on occasions like before summer. It's a luxury tool to be deployed when needed, too many people try to lean on it and feel they can make it work.

Yes they took other things but it's clear the roids exasperated it, this looks permanent damage as well.



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Can you delete your account please. I stg I'm losing brain cells reading your posts
 
Cashton said:
No doubt a LITTLE bit, but you seem to come to this forum with some sort of super fucking weird bias seeing as your taking gear, but against it, but also suffering awful side effects cuz you’re a moron but keep taking gear wrong.
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Damn bro you helped me in the past so I'm not going to retaliate.

Let's keep it on topic instead of attacking me we can fight it out in the pm.

I'm learning , no way would I follow people's advice blindly. Should I blindly take 500mg testosterone to start as this is what people say is right?

Should I not test my gear because my dealer says its all good?

Of course not.

Yes anavar only is not a good idea, and I am taking your advice to take a small dose of test with it. I only plan on doing this for summer time or special occasions.

I don't want to make it part of my lifestyle , its not for me.
 
Gaia262 said:
Damn bro you helped me in the past so I'm not going to retaliate.

Let's keep it on topic instead of attacking me we can fight it out in the pm.

I'm learning , no way would I follow people's advice blindly. Should I blindly take 500mg testosterone to start as this is what people say is right?

Should I not test my gear because my dealer says its all good?

Of course not.

Yes anavar only is not a good idea, and I am taking your advice to take a small dose of test with it. I only plan on doing this for summer time or special occasions.

I don't want to make it part of my lifestyle , its not for me.
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i don’t mean to be rude, I’m sorry... It just seems like you have a preconceived notion that steroids are evil, but you’re doing them and doing them improperly... that was my point, sorry I came across mean, I was just waking up
 
Millard said:
You can't make such conclusive statements with in vitro and rat studies, and correlational studies.

Even the researchers don't go so far:

For example, correlation does not equal causation in brain changes studies. It's just speculation:

View attachment 144511And the nandrolone is 11x worse than testosterone... it's a big leap to go from in vitro to human conclusions. Notice the qualifiers from researchers:

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The conclusions are overstated, often mere speculation, and have not been proven in humans for most of these studies. We need to be careful speaking beyond what the evidence actually says.

Source:

Bjørnebekk, A., Walhovd, K. B., Jørstad, M. L., Due-Tønnessen, P., Hullstein, I. R., & Fjell, A. M. (2017). Structural Brain Imaging of Long-Term Anabolic-Androgenic Steroid Users and Nonusing Weightlifters. Biological Psychiatry, 82(4), 294–302. Redirecting

D’Ascenzo, S., Millimaggi, D., Di Massimo, C., Saccani-Jotti, G., Botrè, F., Carta, G., Tozzi-Ciancarelli, M. G., Pavan, A., & Dolo, V. (2007). Detrimental effects of anabolic steroids on human endothelial cells. Toxicology Letters, 169(2), 129–136. Redirecting
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Just one more example of how you can't trust the headlines, lol

Appreciate you sharing those details!
 
Gaia262 said:
I'm learning , no way would I follow people's advice blindly. Should I blindly take 500mg testosterone to start as this is what people say is right?
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No - but if I was inexperienced, I would certainly want to listen to those with experience. Most have also told you WHY you should do this, not that it is "right," but to be clear, I think everybody has told you not to take anything for your goal because you can meet your goal natty, which is obviously healthier and wiser if that is an option. For your goal, it is an option.
 
Gaia262 said:
No doubt the roids exasperated it.
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People can be mentally ill to start with and it has nothing to do with the PEDs.

The media loves to demonize PED use. They report on anything that may be related to steroids. So a guy with mental illness abuses his wife but also happens to take a little test and deca, the media jumps on the drugs as the cause.

Mental illness affects 1 in 5 people in America. The Mayo Clinic estimates 3 million Americans use PEDs. That’s less than 1% of the population.

Based on those numbers, don’t you think it’s more likely that people suffer from mental illness just naturally, and it’s not the roids?
 
Anything can be damaging to your mental health.
Eat cheese burgers and become a depression ridden fat fuck.
Etc etc etc.

Can things like Tren be dangerous?
Absolutly

Take any compound/lifestyle with a grain of salt.
Like BBBG said, ALOT of people have mental health issues, myself and others on this board included.

I can definitively say gear has actually improved my mental health, but that result/conclusion is most definitely not to be considered the norm.
 
Whether gear use damages your mental health or not depends largely on how mentally healthy you are when you start taking it.

If you’re a train wreck of a human then absolutely, fucking with your hormones will likely make that worse. If you’re insecure and have a little man complex then absolutely, AAS will probably make you more hostile and aggressive.

But the friends that I have who use PEDs are the chillest guys that you’ll ever meet. They’re all married, have kids, good jobs etc. and they know that they could pop most people’s heads off if they wanted to, so they have nothing to prove.
 
Test_Subject said:
Whether gear use damages your mental health or not depends largely on how mentally healthy you are when you start taking it.

If you’re a train wreck of a human then absolutely, fucking with your hormones will likely make that worse. If you’re insecure and have a little man complex then absolutely, AAS will probably make you more hostile and aggressive.

But the friends that I have who use PEDs are the chillest guys that you’ll ever meet. They’re all married, have kids, good jobs etc. and they know that they could pop most people’s heads off if they wanted to, so they have nothing to prove.
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Don't you insult Ben Affleck. How DARE you!
 
Cashton said:
No doubt a LITTLE bit, but you seem to come to this forum with some sort of super fucking weird bias seeing as your taking gear, but against it, but also suffering awful side effects cuz you’re a moron but keep taking gear wrong.
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Exactly what I was about to say. He/she constantly contradicts him/herself.
 
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