200 tren is not going to provide any anabolism at that dose. Tren is made for fat loss and nutrient partitioning, but in terms of actual muscle growth 200mgs of test will yield more than tren, hence why most report making more mass gains on high test. Even 500mgs of tren will pale in comparison to 500 test.
If I were to bulk on 600mg of tren with 150 test I’d gain mostly fat, maybe 2lbs of muscle, with maybe some added vascularity which wouldn’t matter considering high tren low test makes you flatter. Simply put High tren low test only works for cutting as high test (at least 500mgs) is necessary for the tren to actually work and build muscle.
700mgs of pure test on the other hand will result in very little fat gain and more tissue growth, strength and a more fuller look. Test is a man’s hormone so higher test means more room for your body to carry muscle. Tren doesn’t do that unfortunately and if anything tren decreases protein synthesis.
I don’t know man, and don’t know even how could you be sure about what you wrote..
As far I read, tren has been developed for veterinary use in 60’s... I read it was “to increase appetite and increasing muscle mass” , some form of veterinary tren has been proposed with estradiol, since it seems its common knowledge that estrogens are absolutely needed to increase muscle mass by some pathways, not only by increasing the amount of glycogen stored.
I read even that main purpose of tren was to save more muscle tissue possible during the slaughtering process, that need some days after death of the animal and so on... don’t know exactly
The thing above about saving muscle tissue it seems to belong to glucocorticoid receptor binding ability of tren... so it should lower the effect of cortisol in muscle tissue wasting
I read that tren binds to androgen receptor way stronger than testo and it should be translated into bigger protein synthesis, since tren doesn’t just bind like antagonist like Tamoxifen does to estrogen receptor, but activates it.
Something similar it seems to appear to DHT that binds to androgen receptor stronger than testo, and it doesn’t convert to estradiol, because of lack of conversion, DHT derivatives are used in cutting, I think.
So , tren shouldn’t have been created as a fatloss agent, but , just wrote it above.
I made bloodworks while on tren one day and found my t3 levels skyrocketed, and I wasn’t on HGH and so on...
It seems it’s common that nutrion partitioning of tren could involve T4 conversion into t3 and other pathways.
So, I don’t think tren dosage should be taken into consideration just like testo ones, because they’re not on the same level , in lot of aspects.
don’t think anyone should need the dosages you wrote because unfortunately, growing as humans isn’t so easy , look at Bostin Loyd, in his famous vid crazy 1 year transformation he was wonderful, ok synthol and what you wanna but it s clear he didn’t have horrible genetic, absolutely, I think he was fuckin awesome, in that famous video in the gym locker room.
then, he went retard and ran a shitload of shit, and blew off... he didn’t become Nick Walker just because he ran 1kg of gear weekly and ate 800k kcals daily..
given that said, I add a screen from a post of that Victor Black my bro
@Ferenor named,
I don’t really know, I think that high dosages of tren COULD lead to more growth in some circumstances, and that’s applies I think for every aas.
I know that more tren for me mean more bloating and more stomach issues that prevent me from eating , and that I had great results with 150mg of tren ace in 9 weeks...
