What’s the point in running more than 200mgs of test on a cycle?

[Infidel141]

How come my test was so low even after running 100mg test for the week?

Test doesn't work that fast, do you read ANYTHING around here?
Just stop injecting any kind of hormones and be a natty before you fuck yourself up beyond repair

 

[Exister0]

Just listen to what your being told and stop asking all sorts of questions.

Inject 2-3 times a week in your delts (same amount each day) that adds up to 150-200 mgs, let’s say 60 mgs Monday / Thursday / Saturday ... you won’t need an AI so don’t even ask. 6 weeks from now have your bloods checked again. Then come back with labs

Will do. I just really want to know what made me feel so good and lost weight for the two weeks I stopped test and why I felt and looked like shit after that.

 

[Exister0]

Test doesn't work that fast, do you read ANYTHING around here?
Just stop injecting any kind of hormones and be a natty before you fuck yourself up beyond repair

So why did I start gaining weight when I started injecting small baby doses even with taking an AI alongside? This all happened during that week and the week I got latest bloodwork done

 

[Streetfighter V4]

Will do. I just really want to know what made me feel so good and lost weight for the two weeks I stopped test and why I felt and looked like shit after that.

I still think u are a troll, judging from ur previous thread and ur “emotional” problems

 

[jJjburton]

I still think u are a troll, judging from ur previous thread and ur “emotional” problems

He is, but his technique is working wonders, he is achieving what he is setting out to. Its remarkable. Keep up the good work!

 

[Exister0]

I still think u are a troll, judging from ur previous thread and ur “emotional” problems

Not right now I’m being dead serious. I really want to know how I went from feeling great and losing weight to suddenly shit with high e2 (water, acne, emotional, endurance) sides even though bloodwork showed me having both low estrogen and test. Normally under those circumstances one would lose a lot of weight rather than gain.

 

[Exister0]

He is, but his technique is working wonders, he is achieving what he is setting out to. Its remarkable. Keep up the good work!

Can you at least help me out with this thread? I’m looking for serious answers

 

[Live_Evil]

If only people focused on diet and training this hard they would realize the drug choices don't matter this much. I bet 500 mg of test of week with a dialed in diet and training program would produce much better results and less side effects then any combination with tren and nandrolone.

There should be a rule where no one can use AAS unless they have less than 12% bodyfat and 3 years of solid training, while showing the ability to gain lean mass year after year.

Most people who use AAS look like shit, and they're just hoping the AAS will mitigate the effects of their lack of drive in the gym, and/or lack of ability to beat their food addiction, and/or lack of ability to add volume/frequency (and quality food intake) until their small amount of muscle turns into more muscle.

I've seen fat fuckers do copious amounts of gear, only to beam with pride at their 500 lb deadlift that isn't even 2x their bodyweight. Meanwhile the natty guy who adjusts his diet and training incrementally over a few years, only weighs 170 lbs, but deadlifts 3x his bodyweight for multiple reps, bangs out pullups with 50 lbs strapped to his waist, and can tie his shoes without holding his breath and nearly having an aneurism.

And guess who actually looks good with their shirt off?

The 135 lbs kid who does a gram a week (or even higher, sadly) of AAS but only trains 2 times a week without any compound movements or progressive overload always ends up gaining nothing but water and nitrogen weight, and maybe 5 lbs of fibrillar hypertrophy that he promptly loses post cycle, because he's lazy and wanted a shortcut.

Honestly, if you take that 170 lbs natty, and give him 200 mg a week of test + 100 mg of a DHT derivative, he'll not only look like a fucking god in like 3 months (maybe less, depending on how he adjusts his training and diet), but his performance metrics will make anyone jealous.

10 lbs of muscle is actually a fucking gargantuan accomplishment, and realistically looks like 20 lbs on someone's frame. It's a marathon, not a sprint. That's something alot of AAS users (even experienced guys) often forget.

 

[Streetfighter V4]

Can you at least help me out with this thread? I’m looking for serious answers

How do u expect ppl to help u when they read this?

I’m in the process of going vegan and living an enlightened lifestyle. I don’t need that kind of negativity and bullying in my life. But even if one of you roid freaks were to try and harm me irl I have a brown belt in TaeKwanDo and TaiChi. Plus I never go out in public by myself always with my gf or friends. So I am pretty much protected from thugs like you

 

[jJjburton]

W

Can you at least help me out with this thread? I’m looking for serious answers

whats your question?

 

[Live_Evil]

How do u expect ppl to help u when they read this?

Lol!!!! He has to be a troll. Naming dumb shit like traditional martial arts as a reason he'd fuck someone up can't be real. If he was trying to legitimately talk shit, he probably would have talked about a combat sport like wrestling or boxing.

 

[Exister0]

W

whats your question?

Why was I feeling so great and losing weight during the weeks I stopped test compared to feeling shitty and gaining weight when I starting taking small amounts of test? The recent bloodwork was taken after that week where my endurance was at its worst, high water retention and acne.

 

[Streetfighter V4]

Lol!!!! He has to be a troll. Naming dumb shit like traditional martial arts as a reason he'd fuck someone up can't be real. If he was trying to legitimately talk shit, he probably would have talked about a combat sport like wrestling or boxing.

Hes never alone in public, his gf is always with him for protection

@op
Just try out low test with more anabolics, see if it works for u, adjust ur diet aswell

 

[Exister0]

I forgot to mention I did inject 200mg of test just before I took the 2 weeks off. Still, it doesn’t make sense that reintroducing small amounts of test would cause me to experience high estrogen sides even though my bloodwork shows everything to be crashed

 

[grey]

Still, it doesn’t make sense

You using AAS is what doesn't make any sense.

It isn't for you.

 

[Sven_Northman]

Now keep in mind I completely stopped injecting my usual dose of 200 test for 2 weeks (March 5-19). During this time I noticed an increase in energy, gym performance was mediocre but cardio certainly improved. I lost what seemed to be 10lbs of water despite my diet remaining the same.

On March 19 I injected 200mg of test e (with .5mg adex) followed by 50mg test with .5mg adex on March 22. Got blood work done the next day with results showing my TT at 970 ng/dL, estradiol was 35. During the rest of the week I noticed mood swings, joint pain, water retention, and drowsiness. However the sides went away by the end of the week where I ended up losing even more weight than usual since I decided to not inject test for the rest of the week.

I injected 50mg test e on March 29(Monday) and April 2 (Friday). During this week I gained a bit more weight but not a lot, maybe 3lbs more than the last week. However due to running tren during this time I couldn’t sleep or train without fatigue/lethargy. Noticed a lot of face acne during this time.

So the recent blood work I posted was taken the following week on Monday (2 days after last injection). The rest of the week was absolutely miserable. Even though I reduced the injection to .25mg Mon/Fri I noticed a large increase in water retention, moodiness, lethargy, poor recover and endurance. The weight just seemed to stick despite eating less. Decided to drop the tren mid way through the week.

All of this now has me confused as to what exactly is causing the excessive water weight and shitty feeling. What’s strange is the two weeks I initially took off felt great, I was only running anavar during that time. Perhaps I still had residual test that kept me going from my year long cruise at 200mg test. I’m honestly not sure.

Like already mentioned you're throwing your hormones into a roller coaster. Stop, decide what your goals are then come back and ask for cycle advice. Then stick to ONE dosage protocol.

 

[Sven_Northman]

I forgot to mention I did inject 200mg of test just before I took the 2 weeks off. Still, it doesn’t make sense that reintroducing small amounts of test would cause me to experience high estrogen sides even though my bloodwork shows everything to be crashed

Its simple really. Your body is telling you to stop fucking with it and man up. Of course you will feel good/bad/fat/emotional and repeat when you randomly inject random amounts of test. It spikes, you aromatize a bit, then it stabilizes, and you stop. Then you feel weird, cry when you see babies at the store while your GF shops for purses.

You will feel much better if you stick to ONE plan. Seriously.

 

[Exister0]

Its simple really. Your body is telling you to stop fucking with it and man up. Of course you will feel good/bad/fat/emotional and repeat when you randomly inject random amounts of test. It spikes, you aromatize a bit, then it stabilizes, and you stop. Then you feel weird, cry when you see babies at the store while your GF shops for purses.

You will feel much better if you stick to ONE plan. Seriously.

Like already mentioned you're throwing your hormones into a roller coaster. Stop, decide what your goals are then come back and ask for cycle advice. Then stick to ONE dosage protocol.

Well my goal now is to simply lean out while staying dry and continue gaining strength.

I figure that Test and Masteron are good enough for these goals. Since both labs showed my e2 being low or within range I’m guessing whatever water retention and acne I experienced had nothing to do with estrogen? If that’s the case then 200-250 test e shouldn’t cause any problems.
Then again the first lab results I took 1mg of adex while the most recent was with no AI at all for two weeks and bloods drawn 72 hours after last injection. Maybe there was some spike in estrogen that lowered by the time I pulled bloods.

 

[Sven_Northman]

Well my goal now is to simply lean out while staying dry and continue gaining strength.

I figure that Test and Masteron are good enough for these goals. Since both labs showed my e2 being low or within range I’m guessing whatever water retention and acne I experienced had nothing to do with estrogen? If that’s the case then 200-250 test e shouldn’t cause any problems.
Then again the first lab results I took 1mg of adex while the most recent was with no AI at all for two weeks and bloods drawn 72 hours after last injection. Maybe there was some spike in estrogen that lowered by the time I pulled bloods.

Adex is fast acting and Aromasin takes a little longer to elicit its estrogen lowering effects. Also know that Adex can mess with lipids whereas Aromasin doesn't.

If you want to stay dry then take Anavar. Your GF might have some. OK, maybe not but couldn't resist.

Dude, just run a regular cycle of 400-500 test per week. Your low level cycle is going to suck in the results dept. and you'll be wishing you did it differently. You are not going to bloat on 500/wk any worse than 250 as long as you manage E2. I promise. Don't over think it.

Pick a start date and run it for 12 weeks. Don't take an AI until 2 weeks in and pull bloods. Apply an AI as needed to get in range. Run anavar the last 6 weeks of your cycle. Then PCT. Take HCG at 500iu/wk starting around week 2. You will feel much better and achieve your goals as long as your diet follows.

Mast is nice, but not necessary. Run it at 500-600/wk to reap the benefits from it. Low doses of it don't really add anything but make your wallet lighter. I'd save if for the last 8 weeks as its a finisher to give you a hard grainy look.

 

[phenominal34]

Can you at least help me out with this thread? I’m looking for serious answers

Omg - Stop asking questions, who cares why it did . Because you weren’t stable. There ... there’s an answer. Now stick with a protocol.