Will i gain some pounds while on test / anavar while in a caloric deficit ??

Jamesw94

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Hi im 5ft 8 160lbs 16% bf.
Will i gain extra muscle weight while taking 500mg test / week even on a cutting cycle of 500 calorie deficit? Help would be appreciated

( Ideally I would like to be 170lbs on the leaner side )

Do you think a 12 week cycle of test / anavar with a 500 caloric deficit this is achievable while dropping a few numbers on the bf %

Cheers!
 
Most likely yes. The gear will push nutrients towards some tissue development/protection and likely holding some water. Use the mirror instead of the scale for the first couple weeks. After that if you continue in a deficit weight should fall.
Would i be wrong in throwing in some dbol for the first 3-4 weeks to put on some lean mass?
 
Hi im 5ft 8 160lbs 16% bf.
Will i gain extra muscle weight while taking 500mg test / week even on a cutting cycle of 500 calorie deficit? Help would be appreciated

( Ideally I would like to be 170lbs on the leaner side )

Do you think a 12 week cycle of test / anavar with a 500 caloric deficit this is achievable while dropping a few numbers on the bf %

Cheers!
500mg of test weekly but how much anavar?

The quick and easy answer is yes, you'll certainly recomp. But if you're trying to be efficient during the recomp, I wouldn't cut 500 calories right off the bat. I'd cut 300, track your progress, and adjust by a couple hundred calories every week or so.

Cutting too aggressively can cause your body to hold onto additional calories, and make the cutting process extremely difficult after the first month or so.

In fact, I wouldn't even aim for a caloric deficit, I'd just do enough cardio (on top of your lifting, at a different time during the day) to yield a 300+ caloric deficit daily. If you can just eat at maintenance, but hit a fairly steep deficit through additional energy expenditure, your recomp will go much better.

Anabolics will combat alot of the undesirable effects of dieting hard, but if you're trying to get the most out of your cycle, you're better off utilizing an approach that works wonders even for a natty, then using the AAS to simply enhance the recomp.

The reason increased energy expenditure works better than a caloric deficit, is gene signaling. Basically, the body receives signaling to build muscle while in an environment conducive to building muscle in the form of a caloric surplus, through out a huge chunk of the day, then it's hit with an acute, sudden caloric deficit, after already utilizing most of its nutrients to build muscle. At that point, it really has no choice but to metabolize fat while sparing the muscle it has already exhausted resources building.

Also, do something other than the bro split for your bodybuilding routine. A full body routine is probably best for calorie expenditure, because it jacks your heart rate through the roof. You can realistically hit somewhere around 30 sets per week, as long as you're splitting those sets among compound and isolation. The only real concern is potentially overtraining your connective tissue, since your skeletal musculature will easily handle the load while using AAS (although you'd most likely be able to hit that kind of extreme volume even natty, at least for 6 weeks or so), and you probably don't have the mental fortitude to actually over train the CNS.

TLDR: Eat at maintenance, achieve the caloric deficit by doing cardio at a different time during the day than when you lift, and aim for a high volume routine that isn't the bro split.
 
Hi im 5ft 8 160lbs 16% bf.
Will i gain extra muscle weight while taking 500mg test / week even on a cutting cycle of 500 calorie deficit? Help would be appreciated

( Ideally I would like to be 170lbs on the leaner side )

Do you think a 12 week cycle of test / anavar with a 500 caloric deficit this is achievable while dropping a few numbers on the bf %

Cheers!
It can be done.There are some factors to consider though.How long have you been training and how many cycles have you done?The deficit at 500 is a good number and if you are relative new to training you can certainly do it.Just dont expect huge gains.
 
Hi im 5ft 8 160lbs 16% bf.
Will i gain extra muscle weight while taking 500mg test / week even on a cutting cycle of 500 calorie deficit? Help would be appreciated

( Ideally I would like to be 170lbs on the leaner side )

Do you think a 12 week cycle of test / anavar with a 500 caloric deficit this is achievable while dropping a few numbers on the bf %

Cheers!
Why are you cutting when you want to be 170?
 
500mg of test weekly but how much anavar?

The quick and easy answer is yes, you'll certainly recomp. But if you're trying to be efficient during the recomp, I wouldn't cut 500 calories right off the bat. I'd cut 300, track your progress, and adjust by a couple hundred calories every week or so.

Cutting too aggressively can cause your body to hold onto additional calories, and make the cutting process extremely difficult after the first month or so.

In fact, I wouldn't even aim for a caloric deficit, I'd just do enough cardio (on top of your lifting, at a different time during the day) to yield a 300+ caloric deficit daily. If you can just eat at maintenance, but hit a fairly steep deficit through additional energy expenditure, your recomp will go much better.

Anabolics will combat alot of the undesirable effects of dieting hard, but if you're trying to get the most out of your cycle, you're better off utilizing an approach that works wonders even for a natty, then using the AAS to simply enhance the recomp.

The reason increased energy expenditure works better than a caloric deficit, is gene signaling. Basically, the body receives signaling to build muscle while in an environment conducive to building muscle in the form of a caloric surplus, through out a huge chunk of the day, then it's hit with an acute, sudden caloric deficit, after already utilizing most of its nutrients to build muscle. At that point, it really has no choice but to metabolize fat while sparing the muscle it has already exhausted resources building.

Also, do something other than the bro split for your bodybuilding routine. A full body routine is probably best for calorie expenditure, because it jacks your heart rate through the roof. You can realistically hit somewhere around 30 sets per week, as long as you're splitting those sets among compound and isolation. The only real concern is potentially overtraining your connective tissue, since your skeletal musculature will easily handle the load while using AAS (although you'd most likely be able to hit that kind of extreme volume even natty, at least for 6 weeks or so), and you probably don't have the mental fortitude to actually over train the CNS.

TLDR: Eat at maintenance, achieve the caloric deficit by doing cardio at a different time during the day than when you lift, and aim for a high volume routine that isn't the bro split.
Much appreciated with the detail reply if If i was too go into a calorie surplus around 300cals but go into a deficit with energy as you say? Do you think this would make goals alot better as in more size and more out of the test? Or stick at maintance and It will be the same? Cheers
 
I dunno, should you? That’s a very open ended question with no context.
Basically want to add more pounds and look lean for a holiday in 14 weeks. Always hear people saying dbol will really bloat you. But what about if the diet is clean and in a slight deficit could dbol add some extra lean pounds on a cut at the beginning of the 12 weeks?
 
Hi im 5ft 8 160lbs 16% bf.
Will i gain extra muscle weight while taking 500mg test / week even on a cutting cycle of 500 calorie deficit? Help would be appreciated

( Ideally I would like to be 170lbs on the leaner side )

Do you think a 12 week cycle of test / anavar with a 500 caloric deficit this is achievable while dropping a few numbers on the bf %

Cheers!
If you are a beginner on this sport and on cycles to , but most of the people will not gain any muscle on deficit because you need fuel for your muscles . You cant build a house without bricks !
 
How much test did you run? And what deficit was you in? Did you actually add some extra pounds aswell in the deficit?
Hmm well I went from 4000 down 3200 but i was pretty fat and I cut slow down down to that number and at 4000 i drank alcohol so it coulda been more. I was doing 600 test and 700 var a week. I dont remember gaining much but that wasnt my goal. Dropped a whole pant size just about. What your bf %? Cause its hard to gain in a deficit. You want tren for that at least
 
Hmm well I went from 4000 down 3200 but i was pretty fat and I cut slow down down to that number and at 4000 i drank alcohol so it coulda been more. I was doing 600 test and 700 var a week. I dont remember gaining much but that wasnt my goal. Dropped a whole pant size just about. What your bf %? Cause its hard to gain in a deficit. You want tren for that at least
That's how I tell, by which hole on my belt is getting used. Scales only once a week, and the family joke is I cant walk by a mirror or reflection without staring. This one convenience store near me has so many cameras and huge monitor I can see every angle except bottom of feet.
 
By definition of a caloric deficit you will lose tissue, hopefully only fat tissue. But you won’t gain any weight unless it’s water weight. This will be transient and not permanent weight. If you want to gain 10lbs on the scale you will have be in a surplus, there is no way around it. But that doesn’t mean you can’t lose some fat in the process. More likely is to stay the same weight but recomp by losing some fat and gain the same amount of muscle. Newbie’s do this all the time but it is a lot harder the longer you have been bodybuilding.
 
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