If all pros use higher test why you claim low test is better ?

[MONSTRO1977]

Newbies claim for low dosages test when top pros use high test!

If you search on google pro bodybuilders cycles like this from Big Ramy , you always see they use much higher test than anabolics . Of course we all know to that most of this cycles are not the real cycle of them but at same time one of them can be real and also when a lot of people said the same think there is some truth in that for sure. We all know this top athletes and coaches cant tell the truth about is cycles used because not also give bad reputation to sport but also is supplement brand sponsors don’t allow them to talk about this openly . But at same time you need only one person, friend of them that have access and contact with them take a picture of protocol and with the help of social medias he can easy put something super secret on google ( all forums and youtube videos ) in matter of hours . Today a cell phone can do a lot of thinks for good and for bad , even destroy a life of someone you hate . We live in a dangerous world .

Steroid Cycle

One of the trainers at "Oxygen Gym" leaked the off-season cycle * that took Ramy from 200 pounds to 280 pounds in a single year.

• HGH - 18IU's per day
• Insulin - 5IU's before each meal
• Testosterone Enanthate - 5000mgs per week
• Trenbolone Enanthate - 3000mgs a week
• Equipoise – 3000 mgs per week
• Deca Durabolin – 2000 mgs per week
• Dianabol 100mgs per day
• Anadrol 300mgs per day
• Myostatin (GDF-8) blocking peptides

But the main goal of this article is to understand why most of newbie and beginners claim that low test is the best way to get results , if the best on this sport ( real top pro athletes ) use always higher testosterone . So my conclusion is that all the pros are coached with people that knows a lot more than us , so why try fancy thinks when this sport as no secrets . The best way to grow muscle is :

High levels of test + high levels of hgh and mostly super high levels IGF , and to achieve that you need to use high testosterone + high trenbolone + anadrol + insulin ( lantus + humalog) and IGF . This is all you need to grow .

This beginners that claim low test gives better results probably never try higher test , or is main goal is be small and shredded and look good to the beach . Because if your goal is grow more , higher test is always best option . They probably like low test because they have less side effects , but if your goal is less sides stay natural!



Monstro

 

[FlobppaKroger]

Start with low dose and eventually work up, No one is gonna start with a 1g of test if they want to do this long term. Yea Putting on tons of muscle is awesome, but longevity in this sport is a lot cooler. And if you aren't gonna compete no need to run over 1g of gear total imo.

 

[TheRingloVale]

OP, your threads are usually rambling and don't have much of a point.

I guess you are trying to say that test is best, so keep it high relative to other drugs?

 

[Aftermath9716]

HOLY JESUS dose doses!

 

[Mac11wildcat]

20ccs of test a week huh? 10 of EQ and Deca.

nobody said low test is better than high test. You think all the pros started at a fucking gram? You taper up so you have headroom for the next 10-20lbs of muscle.

No amount of drugs is making any one of us Ramy. He is genetically elite.

This shit is getting annoying AF.

 

[Exister0]

20ccs of test a week huh? 10 of EQ and Deca.

nobody said low test is better than high test. You think all the pros started at a fucking gram? You taper up so you have headroom for the next 10-20lbs of muscle.

No amount of drugs is making any one of us Ramy. He is genetically elite.

This shit is getting annoying AF.

You can actually grow just as much on trt test with high anabolics such as 600+ primo. Low test with a high dose of primo would allow pure protein synthesis without fat or water gain. Nutrient partitioning and insulin sensitivity is better with these kind of cycles

 

[Freakmidd]

Edit: Put it all in 1 pin

 

[Exister0]

Low test > Low E2 makes fat gain nearly impossible

 

[Mac11wildcat]

You can actually grow just as much on trt test with high anabolics such as 600+ primo. Low test with a high dose of primo would allow pure protein synthesis without fat or water gain. Nutrient partitioning and insulin sensitivity is better with these kind of cycles

With all due respect, I don’t think you’ve been in this game long enough or done enough work to make this statement. There’s a reason why open pros aren’t running 200mg test. There’s also a reason they don’t start at a gram.

the idea that fat gain isn’t possible because test/e2 is laughable.

 

[MindlessWork]

With all due respect, I don’t think you’ve been in this game long enough or done enough work to make this statement. There’s a reason why open pros aren’t running 200mg test. There’s also a reason they don’t start at a gram.

the idea that fat gain isn’t possible because test/e2 is laughable.

Welcome back and hope all's well with you. Also good to see our good knowledgeable friend @Exister0 is back again too...

 

[Ryu82]

Newbies claim for low dosages test when top pros use high test!

The answer is right there. Newbies and beginners. Ramy is the current Mr.O

That's a pretty big gap and progression is non-linear.

 

[Exister0]

With all due respect, I don’t think you’ve been in this game long enough or done enough work to make this statement. There’s a reason why open pros aren’t running 200mg test. There’s also a reason they don’t start at a gram.

With all of the information available in today’s age there’s no need to be in the game. Those bodybuilders didn’t no any better and would follow cookie cutter protocols. Now a days many even CB will run low test or no test cycles in their off season to grow without fat gains. Look at all of those bodybuilders in 90s 2000s that ran high dose of test during their off season, they’d get fat to the point where even their heads grew in size.

Luckily today we are going back to golden age era style of PED use. No test all deca, tren or eq. This allows much more freedom in one’s diet as well as overall improved sense of well being. I may have never competed but I’ve been around the block and the whole train.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

With all of the information available in today’s age there’s no need to be in the game. Those bodybuilders didn’t no any better and would follow cookie cutter protocols. Now a days many even CB will run low test or no test cycles in their off season to grow without fat gains. Look at all of those bodybuilders in 90s 2000s that ran high dose of test during their off season, they’d get fat to the point where even their heads grew in size.

Luckily today we are going back to golden age era style of PED use. No test all deca, tren or eq. This allows much more freedom in one’s diet as well as overall improved sense of well being. I may have never competed but I’ve been around the block and the whole train.

Believe whatever you’d like. Your post history tells the story.

guys get fat because they eat like retards. Period.

 

[Exister0]

The answer is right there. Newbies and beginners. Ramy is the current Mr.O

That's a pretty big gap and progression is non-linear.

The difference between 200 test and 500 is negligible and the latter having more side effects. Replace gram of test with primo or eq. Much better nutrient partitioning

 

[Exister0]

Believe whatever you’d like. Your post history tells the story.

I mean not really as you don’t know my credentials. That’s besides the point look at current bodybuilders now such as Mike Thurston or Anthony Mantello. The proof is in the pudding man.

 

[Exister0]

Welcome back and hope all's well with you. Also good to see our good knowledgeable friend @Exister0 is back again too...

Thank you, it’s good to be back. How is your wife doing?

 

[MindlessWork]

Thank you, it’s good to be back. How is your wife doing?

So you are back to your trolling self eh?

 

[MindlessWork]

I mean not really as you don’t know my credentials. That’s besides the point look at current bodybuilders now such as Mike Thurston or Anthony Mantello. The proof is in the pudding man.

What kind of credentials? You have certifications that can be verified? Please tell us more.

 

[Theworm]

I mean not really as you don’t know my credentials. That’s besides the point look at current bodybuilders now such as Mike Thurston or Anthony Mantello. The proof is in the pudding man.

So you are saying that when test is high you get fat?
When I ran test at my highest, I lost fat, and did it pretty easily.
I think you are missing the biggest point: diet
Diet makes you fat, not testosterone

 

[Exister0]

What kind of credentials? You have certifications that can be verified? Please tell us more.

Currently and employee for bodybuilding expo for the past 5 years. So I’ve met and spoken to many pros including bikini competitors. Been coached by Jason Blaha who has his own published program out for the public. Worked side by side with Layne Norton and Tony Trigili.