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Idiots on ASF think JuicePal is good because member got 898 TT from 500 mg Sustanon

Methyl Mike said:
I wonder if all men aged say 25 - 45 the world over had bloods done what percentage would score "normal" and how many would score "below average" would you (or anyone) guess? I've been hearing for years testosterone has been on the decline at least in the US.
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I believe that test across the board has been gong down over the last few decades in all men due to environmental factors. I myself won't heat any food in plastic containers in the microwave and try to buy any food I can that is packaged in glass or any natural packaging. Also the more chemicals we ingest through the environment I do feel have an effect on testosterone levels. Now how much I don't know. It could be a little it could be a lot. I am no tree hugging naturalist but if I can cut out some of the phytoplastic shit that is all around I do. Since I am on injected testosterone year round my levels shouldn't be affected but I also do it for just health reasons.

There is no way to avoid the crap that's in the environment totally but I try to avoid where I can. Again though how much that has to due with actually lowering the populations test I don't know. Maybe it's a little maybe it's a lot. It would be an interesting study to see.
 
Meterman05 said:
I believe that test across the board has been gong down over the last few decades in all men due to environmental factors. I myself won't heat any food in plastic containers in the microwave and try to buy any food I can that is packaged in glass or any natural packaging. Also the more chemicals we ingest through the environment I do feel have an effect on testosterone levels. Now how much I don't know. It could be a little it could be a lot. I am no tree hugging naturalist but if I can cut out some of the phytoplastic shit that is all around I do. Since I am on injected testosterone year round my levels shouldn't be affected but I also do it for just health reasons.

There is no way to avoid the crap that's in the environment totally but I try to avoid where I can. Again though how much that has to due with actually lowering the populations test I don't know. Maybe it's a little maybe it's a lot. It would be an interesting study to see.
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When I was in college a fellow student did a project on bisphenol-a and he proved you could literally take a plastic water bottle and extract a sizeable amount out of it. I dont recall all the details but thats a pretty nasty chemical. @Elistheman perhaps a proper chemist will share insight.

I remember he proved if you heat water bottles such as unopened ones sitting on store shelves he proved that was enough heat to allow bisphenol-a to leach into the water from the plastic bottle. It was scary. He won some award for the experiment.

We absorb heavy metals.and various toxins and phyto-estrogens through our skin. A famous professor used to challenge his students to go 24 hours without touching plastic. No-one ever successfully did it. Touching plastic has all sorts of potentially nasty effects but is it going to hurt you? Sadly I think yes but science hasn't gotten that far yet. Two generations from now I'd wGer a fair.amount the people will look back at us and feel sorry for us because we were hurting ourselves and not realizing it. Like we look back at ww2 and how everyone smoked and shake our heads

I wonder if our declining test has to do with overpopulation or something? Like a built.in population control from.mother nature.
 
So @SponsorJuicePal on ASF is saying that dude probably doesn't convert testosterone well and he doesn't believe in bloods as quality indicator.
He has said over there now he will give credit for independent testers sending samples to lab4tox, chem4tox (or whatever it is) or Jano.
You going to do that for meso too @SponsorJuicePal? You came in here and acted like a jackass and accused members here of lying. How about you show some humility and increase your offer past the shills of ASF?
 
lifter6973 said:
So @SponsorJuicePal on ASF is saying that dude probably doesn't convert testosterone well and he doesn't believe in bloods as quality indicator.
He has said over there now he will give credit for independent testers sending samples to lab4tox, chem4tox (or whatever it is) or Jano.
You going to do that for meso too @SponsorJuicePal? You came in here and acted like a jackass and accused members here of lying. How about you show some humility and increase your offer past the shills of ASF?
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The bitch slap heard round the world
 
You think that bloodwork shows the quality of gear you are pinning like the newb you are....

PLease explain to me why this guy was pinning 1,000 - 1,4000 test a week for 3 weeks and his levels were only 1417?



Customer's bloodwork was only 1447 on 350 mg of test sustanon EOD..(pinning 1050-1400 test a week for 3 weeks only however.) Test results showed the test sustanon that he sent in from the exact vial he was pinning and his other vial was about 300 mg/ml ....

As you can see based on this case, low bloodwork does NOT mean the oils are underdosed. Some people just have problems absorbing test for reasons i do not know.


Test results for this client's test sustanon are below. He sent this in himself from the vial he was pinning and another vial that he just opened to send in for testing. The other test results of diff compounds were because he mixed in other oils of mine and didnt tell jano what he was testing for his own confidence in testing for jano not knowing the samples he was testing only him(he numbered the amps and only he knew what the numbers were for what compound etc.). He sent the package in to jano. He drew the test sustanon that was pinning that gave him that bloodwork. Shows the test sustanon is NOT underdosed despite his low bloodwork. What do you have to say to this case if bloodwork is so accurate?

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytical



screenshots of some emails from the customer earlier this year.

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As you can see i offered to pay for everything for him, the shipping label, the test costs as a source that cares about his customer.

Screenshots below now are just some parts of our convo to show his messages of him getting ready to send it in for testing himself etc.


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Screenshot below, jano has the test results

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Janoshik Analytical
test sustanon result 303 mg

2nd result for the other vial he drew 1 ml from
Janoshik Analytical

298 mg.
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SponsorJuicePal said:
You think that bloodwork shows the quality of gear you are pinning like the newb you are....

PLease explain to me why this guy was pinning 1,000 - 1,4000 test a week for 3 weeks and his levels were only 1417?



Customer's bloodwork was only 1447 on 350 mg of test sustanon EOD..(pinning 1050-1400 test a week for 3 weeks only however.) Test results showed the test sustanon that he sent in from the exact vial he was pinning and his other vial was about 300 mg/ml ....

As you can see based on this case, low bloodwork does NOT mean the oils are underdosed. Some people just have problems absorbing test for reasons i do not know.


Test results for this client's test sustanon are below. He sent this in himself from the vial he was pinning and another vial that he just opened to send in for testing. The other test results of diff compounds were because he mixed in other oils of mine and didnt tell jano what he was testing for his own confidence in testing for jano not knowing the samples he was testing only him(he numbered the amps and only he knew what the numbers were for what compound etc.). He sent the package in to jano. He drew the test sustanon that was pinning that gave him that bloodwork. Shows the test sustanon is NOT underdosed despite his low bloodwork. What do you have to say to this case if bloodwork is so accurate?

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytical



screenshots of some emails from the customer earlier this year.

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Screenshot-from-2021-07-10-21-47-52.png


As you can see i offered to pay for everything for him, the shipping label, the test costs as a source that cares about his customer.

Screenshots below now are just some parts of our convo to show his messages of him getting ready to send it in for testing himself etc.


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Screenshot below, jano has the test results

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Janoshik Analytical
test sustanon result 303 mg

2nd result for the other vial he drew 1 ml from
Janoshik Analytical

298 mg.
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You do realize in 3 weeks of pinning sustanon the latter half of the esters are still just barely starting to elevate blood levels right?

I mean of course you knew that.
 
Listen carefully @SponsorJuicePal, I don't give two fucks about the guy who tested insanely low with bloods on your Sustanon and allegedly sent in the same vials that tested high with Jano. I smell bullshit.
What about the members here who asked if you would give them credit for testing? Answer the question numbnuts. I'm not interested in people you fucked over on ASF who are now your shills.
 
Methyl Mike said:
Also possible his low result the byproduct of the other gear he is running? Maybe his body is converting a shit ton to estrogen or dht?
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That sounds like a good point. How can that be determined? Further bloodwork? This whole thing sounds like one big clusterf'er.
 
Methyl Mike said:
Well I'm not the expert on bloods but assuming he did bloods before starting a recent draw should show elevation of estrogen right?
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Ideally it should. Perhaps a baseline blood draw before starting the cycle to compare to the one done at mid-cycle and it should show changes in your values since when the baseline was done.
 
MindlessWork said:
Ideally it should. Perhaps a baseline blood draw before starting the cycle to compare to the one done at mid-cycle and it should show changes in your values since when the baseline was done.
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We just have to have the before cycle bloods to go by and I have yet to see them...
 
Methyl Mike said:
We just have to have the before cycle bloods to go by and I have yet to see them...
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Oh so a mid cycle one wasn't done? Wow, that doesn't sound good really as that 800 value might then been before cycle. Not a good look for this dude.
 
Methyl Mike said:
Not sure. All I had seen was bloods taken at week 3. Not sure about before or after. Both would be useful.
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Week 3 sounds too soon to me. The end of week 6 or the start of week 7 would been the best time and 48 hrs after last pin. Thought that was the standard.
 
cochino said:
Who said anything about week 3 besides @SponsorJuicePal ? From the post I saw he started on March 25 and pulled bloods June 25. Am I missing something?
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Maybe yes we are not getting the full picture. Thought the standard is getting bloods done at weeks 6/7 and @Methyl Mike mentioned seeing only bloods done at week 3. Seems there may be a mistake or something.
 
cochino said:
Who said anything about week 3 besides @SponsorJuicePal ? From the post I saw he started on March 25 and pulled bloods June 25. Am I missing something?
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Apparently you are. Juicepal pounced on the guy at week 3.

Customer's bloodwork was only 1447 on 350 mg of test sustanon EOD..(pinning 1050-1400 test a week for 3 weeks only however.) Test results showed the test sustanon that he sent in from the exact vial he was pinning and his other vial was about 300 mg/ml
 
Methyl Mike said:
Apparently you are. Juicepal pounced on the guy at week 3.

Customer's bloodwork was only 1447 on 350 mg of test sustanon EOD..(pinning 1050-1400 test a week for 3 weeks only however.) Test results showed the test sustanon that he sent in from the exact vial he was pinning and his other vial was about 300 mg/ml
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Quit sucking on juicepals dick and go read the thread on ASF.
That is what I'm going by.
 
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