So you’re telling me the little 110lb girl squatting with a kb has more functional strength and can outperform a guy who has 1500lb total?
She doesn’t have strength she might have more endurance
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She doesn’t have strength she might have more endurance
Human_backhoe
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A very unpopular opinion lol.
That kind of over 300 lb strength is very functional. Today I had to pick up and lift 6, 6 month old calves into a trailer......right after we dragged iin 7 cows. If we all changed professions you wouldn't have food or building's or vehicle's lol. Some of us do it day in day out and hate being in a office! I build and program machines for a living aside from the farm. I hate being "comfy" in my office on a laptop. I want on the tools and to wrangle cows and throw 1000+ bales a day lol.
adamcarpenter
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“I got that functional strength bro. You know, the kind that’s not useful.”
It’s denial from head to toe. Let’s call a spade a spade. There is no such thing as functional strength. There is just strength. And the more you have the more capable you will be.
There’s no need to muddy the waters with special terms, it just serves as a distraction from the real issue.
It’s denial from head to toe. Let’s call a spade a spade. There is no such thing as functional strength. There is just strength. And the more you have the more capable you will be.
There’s no need to muddy the waters with special terms, it just serves as a distraction from the real issue.
I would definitely say I am not a fear minded person based on the fact that I laugh at covid, people who worry about it, those my friend are fear minded pussies.
but back on topic, I mostly agree. its good to get strong, benching 135 is pathetic, work your way up to 225 for reps 275 for reps now you look like you lift,,but when your now doing reps with over 300 when you started at as 140lb Twink before juice, the pec tear is coming. deadlifting 400plus, one day something is going to happen, hopefully it will have you out 3 weeks and not limit you forever
now goin shit heavy on incline hammer press, lat pull down, probably db chest press as long as reps are over 10 and maybe safer on an incline, that is progression but much safer than loading up the squat bar over years
shit heavy weight on the compounds adds the most size but also causes the most injuries, and everyone online says they have the perfect form. Ive never lifted shit heavy but id guess at some point perfect form doesn't even matter when the load is heavy enough, the body just gives out at the wrong time or someone loses concentration and something snaps and it will never be the same again
alot lift for their ego, id advise a skinny Twink to keep adding poundage but once someone reaches a certain size of the loads get dangerous, switch it up, up the rep range, use machine to progress, the human body can only handle so much
Worf
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Strongman are probably the only athletes that have true “functional strength“ In the construction world. Some of the strongman types are slobs some look like bodybuilders, more function than say a gymnist. Then there’s stuff like mma for cops and soldiers. Even at that, the army is totally changing its fitness requirements and it ain’t about push ups and sit-ups anymore. So when it comes down to it the demands really dictate the function of the strength training. Like boxers beating feet at 3 am for 7 miles and doing a billion push ups aint it anymore. Boxers are doing hill sprints , plyo’s, and explosive throws like shot put and even incorporate tire flips and sledgehammer stuff now. These things change with the times.
Type-IIx
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Difference between fear and educated mindfulness regarding contagion without being swayed by the politicization of an infectious disease.
Where does this belief come from?
400lb deadlift? You realize how commonplace this is? I don't know a single person, among countless, that have had problems from deadlifting this light.
Ah that explains it man. This is just NOT true! While it IS possible to tear something going for a new 1RM by losing concentration, it means bad programming, recovery, nutrition, training WAY WAY more often than your belief that the person has surpassed the limits of their physiology.
I can actually think of one guy I know that meets this description, very genetically cursed but dedicated, and he tore something during a heavy(ish) lift and makes it sound like something just gave out. But, others say he started to do gear and just added a ton of weight too quickly, which does seem a more reasonable explanation.
Worf
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Some jobs require strength is certain areas, like the cow pusher above stated. I’m another. My job requires me to load and unload lift and move around objects from air Conditioners to motors up to 350 lbs, large refrigerant coils, barrels of refrigerant from 30-100 lbs. Of course there’s rigging and chain falls, come alongs, cranes when the weight exceeds 300lbs but I promise anyone who does that type of work the squat, bench, deadlift, ohp and row all carry over. Sure some sand bag lifts or stones would be a bit better for the compressors but moving around motors for bug air handling units is done with a chain and is nearly identical to sumo deadlift. 400 lb deadlift isn’t a path to injupry for everyone. There’s intermediate lvl powerlifters who don’t even get to their working sets until they hit 500 On squat or deadlift. In a meet prep I’m one of them. I’m 230 about 20% bf and can do 3 sets of chins 10-15 reps each or 3 sets of 10 pull ups after a deadlift and bench session. Theses random rules of people being too big and immobile to do Bw exercises is non sense. I have the worst god dam mobility in the world and it doesn’t stop me from doing any Bw exercises. 300 is arbitrary For any lift
Forthewin1123
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I'm 6'1"as well ...between tje height and gaining a decent amount of size in lehs and upper body habe made it even worse
My grip would give out on 4 sheets lol.
I can only consistently carry 2 sheets (all day)
I tried 4, but my carrying hand turned into a claw and I couldnt open it for a while lol.
Brandaddy
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Ha. My little bitch mittens were fine. But my funky disc in my back really didn't care for the awkward bend of going up the stairs and crouching and twisting through the doorways.
FlyGuy3232
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Depends on which whites. Not all of them are...
Test_Subject
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“Functional Strength” is some bullshit that the buck fiddy kiddies made up to feel better about struggling to bench two wheels and being weak sauce in general. It’s pure delusion.
“But my strength is more functional!”
“OK, farmer carry these 120s for 50 feet.”
“But my strength is more functional!”
“OK, farmer carry these 120s for 50 feet.”
Cdave.aol
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Wrong
Calisthenics will enable you to defeat lions, climb trees and survive in the wild
Test_Subject
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I definitely want to see a calisthenics guru fight a lion barehanded.
Worf
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I’m a finger calisthenics expert. 2lb trigger on a 300 win mag ought to win the day. No gloves of course
in my opinion, anyone that fears covid is a pussy. everyone I know who had it said it was nothing and the chance you will die from it is minuscule. im not mr macho I hate heights wont do a roller coaster, but a grown man faring covid is pretty weak, the human mind is fascinating how some grown strong men use hand sanitizer and mask up always and get the covid vaccine
if you travled back in time and told your younger self that one day you will wear a mask, take a vaccine and use hand sanitizer for a Chinese flu that will over 99% of people survive your youngerseld would laugh
we have been conditioned over the past year to give a shit about the "pandemic"
as to the injuries, I have tweaked the pec, know guys that tore it, read countless threads on the forum, and even the self proclaimed know it all of bodybuilding who supplies the first supplements for every ailment, I believe has said stay away from the flat bench.
Are you referring to DC aka Dante Trudel?
Type-IIx
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I mean do you call your neighbor with heart failure or your brother with a liver transplant a pussy for being afraid of the coronavirus? Or is everyone you know in perfect health? I'm not personally afraid of it, just conscientious of others that I could kill with it. I think it's weakness to align yourself with any political side in a debate that sadly exists due to politicization of an infectious disease. Insofar as I am told, the polio vaccine was adopted without much debate. But anyways, back on topic, true a flat barbell bench can be one of the bad choices for some people, just as the full squat is bad for others, just as the hammer row machine is bad for others. Everything is contextual. I just say, do what you can to work on the basic human movements as best you can.
correct, read a post many years ago where he was very adamant that bench, flat, was causing many pec tears. I believe he said the preacher curl was the one that was tearing biceps, not sure if it was 2 arm barbell or 1 arm, id doubt its the preacher machine.
incline is always safer IMO, dumbbells on the incline even safer, but they only go so high. part of it is guys neglect the back, the rotator cuff, rear delts. I have a few physical therapists (ones who work with athletes no old ladies) recommend for most 2x as much pulling as pushing, no idea if true but that stuck with me.
so some of the pec tears are because guys push too much, don't pull enough, don't do shit for rotator cuff, but IMO the flat bench is risky once you start getting into the big numbers, just envision the angle vs an incline.
Back in my permabulker days I got pretty heavy for me and felt the tweak, luckily I tore some tissue in my pec and not the tendon off the bone.
He said if you use flat bench do it like a powerlifer. He did say he’s not a fan because it’s not if but when you get injured doing it.
