Whats with all these youtubers recommended TRT for a cycle?

[Juicedhead]

Hey guys, I was curious your thoughts on all these youtubers (moreplatesmoredishes, vigourus steve, leo longdickgeveity) telling guys to run 250mg test? It actually kind of pisses me off cuz im running into young guys at the gym saying "oh yea i just started my first cycle 250mg test".. Like wtf is that going to do? Anyone else notice this happening?

 

[Demondosage]

It’s because steroids are so mainstream now that it’s almost a given that anyone watching the video is open to TRT or already on it.

But just playing devils advocate here, 500mg of test isn’t a beginner dose to me, 250-300mg is

 

[effswithtren]

It helps once you realize Vigorous Steve, Leo & Longevity, and Greg Doucette are in bed with MorePlatesMoreDates; and that MorePlatesMoreDates owns a TRT clinic that he actively pimps in every video. They’re fucking shills.

See also: When MorePlatesMoreDates and Greg Doucette speculate in every “Natty or Not” video that some jacked celebrity is “probably just on TRT” lol yeah right.

 

[Juicedhead]

It helps once you realize Vigorous Steve, Leo & Longevity, and Greg Doucette are in bed with MorePlatesMoreDates; and that MorePlatesMoreDates owns a TRT clinic that he actively pimps in every video. They’re fucking shills.

See also: When MorePlatesMoreDates and Greg Doucette speculate in every “Natty or Not” video that some jacked celebrity is “probably just on TRT” lol yeah right.

OHHH YEA shit how did i not put that together.. Derek owns that clinic they all push .. wow

 

[Juicedhead]

It’s because steroids are so mainstream now that it’s almost a given that anyone watching the video is open to TRT or already on it.

But just playing devils advocate here, 500mg of test isn’t a beginner dose to me, 250-300mg is

My first cycle was 500mg test E the Galenkia amps and I gained 30lbs. Probably couldve had 20lbs gained on 300 mg. I think it just depends on the person and how old they are and training experience. I always recomend 500mg test cuz thats what I did and I got good results.

 

[Isrrike]

So they can push that bullshit turkesterone shit and discourage people from running real doses of real gear

 

[Plate Smacker]

 

[Rido]

Hey guys, I was curious your thoughts on all these youtubers (moreplatesmoredishes, vigourus steve, leo longdickgeveity) telling guys to run 250mg test? It actually kind of pisses me off cuz im running into young guys at the gym saying "oh yea i just started my first cycle 250mg test".. Like wtf is that going to do? Anyone else notice this happening?

Vigorous Steve advises to take .9 mg of test for every lb of body weight as a guideline. He does 250mg a week and says he's pushing over what he would typically reccomended.


I liked his videos until I started seeing him with Leo. I do think Steve's info is based off of studies or her learned from a smart guy because I can find the articles.

However the turkesterone shit annoys me and I have lost faith in any info when it's combined with any possible agenda for $$.

It just makes me feel like he is a sell out. I have bought 3 of his ebooks and some of his advice is why my libido is up and rocking again.


But I'm looking for other online educators that don't have a high pitch raspy voice or do not have money into a product. I have 0 problem with paying for a "member fee". I just don't want any hidden agenda to buy their products.

I have been looking at victor black lately too

 

[Kappakappa]

Vigorous Steve advises to take .9 mg of test for every lb of body weight as a guideline. He does 250mg a week and says he's pushing over what he would typically reccomended.


I liked his videos until I started seeing him with Leo. I do think Steve's info is based off of studies or her learned from a smart guy because I can find the articles.

However the turkesterone shit annoys me and I have lost faith in any info when it's combined with any possible agenda for $$.

It just makes me feel like he is a sell out. I have bought 3 of his ebooks and some of his advice is why my libido is up and rocking again.


But I'm looking for other online educators that don't have a high pitch raspy voice or do not have money into a product. I have 0 problem with paying for a "member fee". I just don't want any hidden agenda to buy their products.

I have been looking at victor black lately too

Yeah, that turkesterone thing went way too far … they are pushing it everywhere lol so pathetic … “stronger than var” yeah i bet dudes , probably more expensive than fkin var

 

[Kappakappa]

It’s because steroids are so mainstream now that it’s almost a given that anyone watching the video is open to TRT or already on it.

But just playing devils advocate here, 500mg of test isn’t a beginner dose to me, 250-300mg is

I made huge progress on 200-300mg test and 200mg primo… i got bigger even on 200 mg alone.

 

[Albozz]

My first cycle was 500mg test E the Galenkia amps and I gained 30lbs. Probably couldve had 20lbs gained on 300 mg. I think it just depends on the person and how old they are and training experience. I always recomend 500mg test cuz thats what I did and I got good results.

Where did you get the galenikas from?

 

[Rido]

Yeah, that turkesterone thing went way too far … they are pushing it everywhere lol so pathetic … “stronger than var” yeah i bet dudes , probably more expensive than fkin var

It makes me sad when good YouTubers fall for money. That Leo guy is just a piece of shit. I refused to watch anymore of his videos after seeing the first one.

I am sure out of all of them Derek will have a long financially successful life. Regardless if we agree with it or not.

Fuck turkesterone

 

[JC Grifter]

A “beginner dosage” depends on how well that person metabolizes testosterone. 80mg put me in the low 900s 5 days after injection. 250-300mg is going to effect me very differently for someone who needs 2-3 times that much to be in the high end of the reference range.

If I were helping someone with a cycle I would have them start off on the lower side and then run blood work to see where it brings their testosterone levels. They can always increase from there.

 

[effswithtren]

I fucking love that guy’s channel

 

[Rido]

I fucking love that guy’s channel

I was gonna respond to the video. I overall liked it. My only thing is... while I am sure it wasn't intentional, having nerds/geeks in the background to help ensure safety of these substances are good. I don't think that really applies to Derek because of his supplements and his turkesterone though to make money off of morons.

I do think you need experience with practical application obviously. I still think this guy is a piece of shit for calling people out for taking AAS of any dosage. He needs to mind his own business. Leave the other people alone.

 

[Kappakappa]

A “beginner dosage” depends on how well that person metabolizes testosterone. 80mg put me in the low 900s 5 days after injection. 250-300mg is going to effect me very differently for someone who needs 2-3 times that much to be in the high end of the reference range.

If I were helping someone with a cycle I would have them start off on the lower side and then run blood work to see where it brings their testosterone levels. They can always increase from there.

Total test doesnt mean much … free test is important in terms of muscle building…

 

[JC Grifter]

Total test doesnt mean much … free test is important in terms of muscle building…

Correct but my comment was in regards to the topic of the thread which was about dosage. It is individual and there shouldn’t be blanket doses thrown around like it’s a matter of fact.

 

[OnTRT]

Yeah, that turkesterone thing went way too far … they are pushing it everywhere lol so pathetic … “stronger than var” yeah i bet dudes , probably more expensive than fkin var

24mg of anavar blew away whatever mg of Huge Supplements Ecdysterone I tried. I mean not even close. I can't even say the Ecdysterone did ANYTHING at all. I didn't even notice once I was off of it.

 

[Plate Smacker]

I fucking love that guy’s channel

He's saying what everyone wants to say, and hear. Drama channels also thrive. However, they all catch on to following trends.
More Plates More Dates seen Dan Balzerian was trending, and made multiple videos to take advantage of a trend. Nothing wrong with that, not saying there is.
I would have done something like that, but I am in the USA, and my profession among other things wouldn't allow me to be open about that. It would put me on the radar.
About a 2 years ago, youtube was really strict on any channel talking about steroids. People's channels would disappear and they would make another. Now, there are so many people talking about it.

 

[Plate Smacker]

I was gonna respond to the video. I overall liked it. My only thing is... while I am sure it wasn't intentional, having nerds/geeks in the background to help ensure safety of these substances are good. I don't think that really applies to Derek because of his supplements and his turkesterone though to make money off of morons.

I do think you need experience with practical application obviously. I still think this guy is a piece of shit for calling people out for taking AAS of any dosage. He needs to mind his own business. Leave the other people alone.

He does contradict himself saying in a couple of videos that More Plates shouldn't be speaking on stuff if he lost all his muscle. When Jordon is doing the same thing. He is back on gear and working out... but he put a video out just now saying that his size doesn't matter, because he was already massive before. Well, that kind of contradicts himself from putting down others that aren't sauced anymore.
It's going to basically be a drama channel.
Then I think once he gets size again, showing some training and such. Diet stuff, ect.
Calling out people lieing and such about their dosages and claiming TRT. You can only make so many videos about that.