First Tren Cycle (Advice Needed)

[acetate jake]

First time using Tren

Goal = Recomp for Cancun vacation in late may

Plan = Start at 200mg Tren Ace pw + trt Test Cyp (150mg)

(I have aromasin, nolva, p5p, caber on hand)


I would love to hear your guys feedback on my plan and experience you have with this compound
- Gains (at my dose of 200mg?)
- Side Effects (hair loss, libido, acne, sweats, mental, etc..)

What should I be expecting, aware of, or preemptively do to prepare for Tren?

 

[Gixjon22]

Understand 200mg is what is given to CATTLE. Ive ran a lot for a ling time before abd if i dabble with tren again it will Probably be under 100mg/week. I found that low test was what kept sides at bay. Train hard. Eat at maintenance at first and ad 20min ss cardio daily. Lower calories and up cardio the closer you get to your vacation based on progress.

Hair loss will quicken if prone to it. Libido to the moon. Not so much acne. Night sweats can be a problem with some. Bro science talks about no carbs before bed but i found that silly. Mood may improve, but you also might become a little bitch about everything. Lethargy can become an issue as well.

With your ai’s. Hold off on any unless there are actually issues. If and or when there are issues get bloods done i stead of just throwing shit at it. Id take fish oil, prostate, liver, kidney support. Hope any of this helps but understand my u understanding and experiences with tren are completely anecdotal.

 

[Driada Medical]

In my experience, what should be expected from the negative effects are: night sweats, sleep disturbances, irritability, cough after injections.

The effectiveness of tren is indisputable: an increase in lean muscle mass, an increase in strength and fat burning due to an increase in IGF-1.

The advice in this case is the following - watch out for prolactin, take blood tests. There is also an opinion thos who lift a heavy weight - get an increased risk of muscle and tendons injuries when using trenbolone.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Take your Tren dose down to 100mg weekly and add 250-500mg of Mast or EQ. You'll thank me later.

 

[HLee33]

Take your Tren dose down to 100mg weekly and add 250-500mg of Mast or EQ. You'll thank me later.

Absolutely agree on the mast.

 

[Alphalfa]

Take your Tren dose down to 100mg weekly and add 250-500mg of Mast or EQ. You'll thank me later.

I do not think he will benefit from that amount of EQ using only 150mg of Test. Just the opposite, can give him more trouble than benefits regarding E2.

 

[OmL]

I running it at 210mg a week with an equal dosage of masteron for my first time using Trenbolone. And I’m enjoying it, I think I got lucky with this dosage as I’m having minimal sides, now. I had issues with appetite and sleep for a short few days at the start and I still may get a random night with poor sleep.

Mentally, I feel good. But reading other peoples anecdotes, I very well may only think that I feel good. As I’m unable to eat much due to my suppressed appetite I’m forcing myself to eat high protein. I’m getting 150-170g of protein a day but my carbs and fats are lacking. Some days I can sit down and eat a whole box of shreddies and others I can barely stomach a yogurt. I found I had my biggest sleep disturbances when I had casein shakes Late at night. I have no temper issues and I can’t comment on any hair loss as I shave my head anyway.

One thing I will say, and I keep saying it, it has woken up some weird sex mad demon in me. And I do ask my wife for some weird shit. Doing things in the last 7 weeks that I haven’t done once in 15 years. It doesn’t make me look at other women, but I’m just always thirsty for my wife. Erections can be rather prolonged also. It seems like a good thing but it isn’t always.

I also find that the rapid gains on strength are almost scary. I want to try and max out and just keep lifting heavier but I know my tendons can’t do it so I do have to talk myself out of rapid progression. I’m increasing my compounds by 5-7.5kg a week and staying within the desired rep and set ranges. But it probably could be more.

Pinning every day i wasn’t long finding a balance with it and it seems to ease things for me. I get prolactin issues from 600m test a week so I have all necessary shit on hand but luckily daily pinning and p5p seem to be keeping it under control.

The crowning thing I will say, is the look. This weird dry and separated look is fucking insane. You can see all three beads of my delts in detail through my shirts for example and I think that is the most addictive thing about it.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

I do not think he will benefit from that amount of EQ using only 150mg of Test. Just the opposite, can give him more trouble than benefits regarding E2.

Yeah, you're probably right about that. Mast would be the best option. Although Bill Roberts suggests EQ with Tren in several articles I've read. Would like to know what exactly he thinks about it.

 

[HLee33]

200mg is reasonable. With your goal it could most likely be accomplished with 100-150, but nobody here who has ran cycles is going to say 150mg test and 200mg tren is reckless by any means.

That being said, a little less tren and a little mast could really improve upon the results but also would most likely be more enjoyable. Then again, if you add mast, you may want to bump the test slightly up so you don’t run into low estrogen issues.

Health’s supps, I wouoldnt cheap out and I wouldn’t be lazy about it. It doesn’t make what we do safe but mitigation and harm reduction is very very real and can have a great impact.

One thing that helped my night sweats, I had a ceiling fan AND a floor fan. I turn A/C down to 68. I then take a hot ass Epsom salt bath and sweat a bit in there. Then I go to the cold ass room and even if I get the sweats, it’s not NEARLY as wild.

I’m a huge fan of REAL CBD, not the majority of the bullshit on the market. I keep my whey iso, and a bowl of cream of rice in my car for post workout. I hop in my car, eat, then take 100mg of CBD. Sleep, anxiety, relaxation, all so much better. Much better than just blasting THC (which I also do).

Just my 2 cents hope it helps.

 

[Big_paul]

Truth be told, a very conservative cycle. I would not expect much.

I have used up to 150mg/day. I think people pych themselves out when it comes to adding tren to a cycle. I usually ran 100mg/day with dramatic results above what I could expect without adding tren to my cycle.

Do yourself a favor and run 50-75mg/day of ace for 6-8 wks if you want to see results.

 

[grey]

I have used up to 150mg/day.

Holy shit!

 

[Big_paul]

Holy shit!

And I did it for a couple decades. Never had any trouble.

 

[hometeam]

IMO the tren dose depends on goals. I've been on 50-75mg/week for almost 3 months now during a winter bulk, put on 15lbs and now I'm a little chubby so I'm planning 6 weeks at 300mg/week with some T3 to recomp and harden up for a summer body.

 

[grey]

And I did it for a couple decades. Never had any trouble.

Damn sir... That is pretty bloody amazing!

 

[Trainghard1212]

Do yourself a favor and run 50-75mg/day of ace for 6-8 wks if you want to see results.

Yeah I'm running test ace & tren ace
60mg ED but I bumped it up to 75mg
Lost appetite it destroyed my appetite struggled to eat drop back down and I'm sweet ..such a small increase massive side effect
Love to know why it kills appetite the way it does ..

 

[acetate jake]

Yeah I'm running test ace & tren ace
60mg ED but I bumped it up to 75mg
Lost appetite it destroyed my appetite struggled to eat drop back down and I'm sweet ..such a small increase massive side effect
Love to know why it kills appetite the way it does ..

What does is your test at?
Are you experiencing acne, hair loss, libido changes, etc?

 

[Trainghard1212]

Test Acetate was 100mg/ml &
tren Acetate 110mg/ml is that the answer your looking for ..
Nah no acne this cycle pinning ED I'm liking it..no hair loss ,libido is up there crazy .
Just keeping an I on my hard on trying to get a read of it daily test running it fair bit Haha.
But yeah my prolactin was 190mIU/L above reference last bloods my E2 was 100 above so yeah trying to keep e2 and prolactin down with as minimal Anastrozole & gabagoline I taken .25 gabagoline and 1/2 Anastrozole E4D now E5D dropping gabagoline now I took 6 gabagoline tabs since 8/2/22 till now..
Need to get bloods done I had them done 16/2/22 ready to go again
Last time I got bloods done 33hours after pin this time I'm going to get it done 4 hours after pin such sort esters
Just curious to see the difference

 

[Big_paul]

Yeah I'm running test ace & tren ace
60mg ED but I bumped it up to 75mg
Lost appetite it destroyed my appetite struggled to eat drop back down and I'm sweet ..such a small increase massive side effect
Love to know why it kills appetite the way it does ..

Other than night sweats and a temper that I came into this world with, I really had very few sides. Tren just melted fat and to a degree increased strength when I thought I maxed out.

I understand what you're saying because I can't use anadrol. 3 weeks in and it's like I have the flu. Guess we're all different brother, but at the same time I could drink a half gallon of bourbon and wake up at 4:30 and train for 3 hrs.

I don't have an answer for you. God made us all different.

 

[Trainghard1212]

Yeah my guess is its something to do with ya body going into state or ketosis and producing to much ketones but ultimately I have no idea that's just my speculation Haha
I would love to know why it does kill appetite dont know where to look for the answer...Anyway

 

[acetate jake]

I running it at 210mg a week with an equal dosage of masteron for my first time using Trenbolone. And I’m enjoying it, I think I got lucky with this dosage as I’m having minimal sides, now. I had issues with appetite and sleep for a short few days at the start and I still may get a random night with poor sleep.

Mentally, I feel good. But reading other peoples anecdotes, I very well may only think that I feel good. As I’m unable to eat much due to my suppressed appetite I’m forcing myself to eat high protein. I’m getting 150-170g of protein a day but my carbs and fats are lacking. Some days I can sit down and eat a whole box of shreddies and others I can barely stomach a yogurt. I found I had my biggest sleep disturbances when I had casein shakes Late at night. I have no temper issues and I can’t comment on any hair loss as I shave my head anyway.

One thing I will say, and I keep saying it, it has woken up some weird sex mad demon in me. And I do ask my wife for some weird shit. Doing things in the last 7 weeks that I haven’t done once in 15 years. It doesn’t make me look at other women, but I’m just always thirsty for my wife. Erections can be rather prolonged also. It seems like a good thing but it isn’t always.

I also find that the rapid gains on strength are almost scary. I want to try and max out and just keep lifting heavier but I know my tendons can’t do it so I do have to talk myself out of rapid progression. I’m increasing my compounds by 5-7.5kg a week and staying within the desired rep and set ranges. But it probably could be more.

Pinning every day i wasn’t long finding a balance with it and it seems to ease things for me. I get prolactin issues from 600m test a week so I have all necessary shit on hand but luckily daily pinning and p5p seem to be keeping it under control.

The crowning thing I will say, is the look. This weird dry and separated look is fucking insane. You can see all three beads of my delts in detail through my shirts for example and I think that is the most addictive thing about it.

Sounds like you’re having a great time!

How much p5p are u taking everyday?