Test Base (TNE) MCT oil help

[alesis8148]

Have done plenty of home brewing but decided to give TNE a try. I’m using the standard 2%ba and 18%bb but even with heat I cannot get the raws to fully dissolve and clear up in the MCT oil so I can filter. I typically use as little heat as possible but I was thinking maybe test base with no ester needs a higher temp? I know plenty of labs sell it at 100mg so it must hold well and I must be missing something. Do I need to add more bb to help the raws dissolve? Any help is appreciated thanks!

 

[Diempes]

Have done plenty of home brewing but decided to give TNE a try. I’m using the standard 2%ba and 18%bb but even with heat I cannot get the raws to fully dissolve and clear up in the MCT oil so I can filter. I typically use as little heat as possible but I was thinking maybe test base with no ester needs a higher temp? I know plenty of labs sell it at 100mg so it must hold well and I must be missing something. Do I need to add more bb to help the raws dissolve? Any help is appreciated thanks!

ur problem arent the solvents, is the little heat...
i recomend you to heat til melting point!
im always reading that stanozolol is a nightmare, and is just because everybody wants to dissolve just with solvents and no heat... heat that shit man... heat til melting point and look if it holds... 153 degrees centigrade-157 degrees centigrade, then let it cool and see if it holds, if it doesnt holds then use EO, and so...
normally ive seen TNE in suspension and is the easiest thing to do... if u need help pm me! i can help u

 

[theotherguy]

@Jet Labs any good advice on how to brew TNE?

 

[Diempes]

Just because you will read shit here ill repost what someaone said here in this forum...

I agree and have had this discussion about not properly heating (and stirring) can cause pip. I use to make test enanthate 400 and it made an Easter egg on my ass. I walked around like I had those pirate stick fake legs for legs. After trying call sorts of stuff like recipe wise, I even went 100% eo for carrier, and added higher solvent levels. Still I got Easter eggs. I then made friends with a former producer. He told me my problem was how long I was heating and not having an auto stirring set up. I had been heating to sterilize and just used a glass rod to stir it a bit here and there throughout the process. I'm not 100% which part made the pip go away but I always heat it to about 225-230f, and auto stir for about 45minutes to an hour. I have never had any sort of PIP again and I went back to just 2%ba, 18%bb and rest mct or mig.

His producing was before my time so I don't really know just how crazy it got but he has been able to answer anything I have ever posed to him.
Full of info I wish I could just carbon copy and digest into my experience.


this guy was just talking bout pip and temperature, but its not just pip, you dont need more than normal 20% BB and ur carrier oil... here u will read pple using 24 28 30 34% of BB just because they want to dissolve with no heat, i would like to know how do they make a suspension, using 90% of BB dunno, st has a very high melting point, anyway... do it and see if it works. ive only seen TNE in suspension

 

[theotherguy]

Just because you will read shit here ill repost what someaone said here in this forum...

I agree and have had this discussion about not properly heating (and stirring) can cause pip. I use to make test enanthate 400 and it made an Easter egg on my ass. I walked around like I had those pirate stick fake legs for legs. After trying call sorts of stuff like recipe wise, I even went 100% eo for carrier, and added higher solvent levels. Still I got Easter eggs. I then made friends with a former producer. He told me my problem was how long I was heating and not having an auto stirring set up. I had been heating to sterilize and just used a glass rod to stir it a bit here and there throughout the process. I'm not 100% which part made the pip go away but I always heat it to about 225-230f, and auto stir for about 45minutes to an hour. I have never had any sort of PIP again and I went back to just 2%ba, 18%bb and rest mct or mig.

His producing was before my time so I don't really know just how crazy it got but he has been able to answer anything I have ever posed to him.
Full of info I wish I could just carbon copy and digest into my experience.


this guy was just talking bout pip and temperature, but its not just pip, you dont need more than normal 20% BB and ur carrier oil... here u will read pple using 24 28 30 34% of BB just because they want to dissolve with no heat, i would like to know how do they make a suspension, using 90% of BB dunno, st has a very high melting point, anyway... do it and see if it works. ive only seen TNE in suspension

Hey big dawg, you can keep getting butthurt but I won’t trash another persons thread. Jet is a damn good brewer, and whether you’re correct or incorrect about your process doesn’t matter to me in this case. I’m just trying to get some good info out there because Jet is known for having (relatively) smooth TNE.

I’m not gonna argue with you here, but just know that you aren’t the only person that knows how to brew.

 

[theotherguy]

Correction, apparently jet doesn’t make TNE, he makes test suspension.

However my previous point still stands.

Sorry I couldn’t offer anything valuable @alesis8148

 

[Diempes]

Correction, apparently jet doesn’t make TNE, he makes test suspension.

However my previous point still stands.

Sorry I couldn’t offer anything valuable @alesis8148

u again clown... the one who brew 3 TIMES!!!!! and right now is giving chemistry lessons, of course u cannot give us any valuable information clown... u cant even brew ur bolde... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

moron!!!! and u know what... whatever!!! continue brewing with 50% BB as the solution for everything... idiot!!!!!

 

[theotherguy]

Hey @alesis8148 just be careful when talking with diempes, if you don’t agree with exactly what he says, which isn’t necessarily even correct, he will talk to you like he’s trying to talk to me now.

I won’t trash your thread though, good luck with the brew.

 

[klokke23]

Hey @alesis8148 just be careful when talking with diempes, if you don’t agree with exactly what he says, which isn’t necessarily even correct, he will talk to you like he’s trying to talk to me now.

I won’t trash your thread though, good luck with the brew.

He's a child. I have a really hard time believing he's a chemical engineer.
It's easier to understand Type-IIx posts than Diempes gibberish.

 

[Diempes]

He's a child. I have a really hard time believing he's a chemical engineer.
It's easier to understand Type-IIx posts than Diempes gibberish.

Then tell me wanna see my diploma moron? U2? Hard to belive my balls... and tell me.
Vc sabe onque esta falando ou vc é mesmo uma crianç mais aqui que sabe porra nenhuma... par de babacas do caralho.
Smoke my dick

 

[Diempes]

He's a child. I have a really hard time believing he's a chemical engineer.
It's easier to understand Type-IIx posts than Diempes gibberish.

Eu não tenho problema, babaca, se vc acredita ou não tanto faz pra mim... finalmente é vc quem fica cheirando... bom par de idiotas que acham que tds são iguais de idiotas do que vcs.

 

[Big_paul]

Have done plenty of home brewing but decided to give TNE a try. I’m using the standard 2%ba and 18%bb but even with heat I cannot get the raws to fully dissolve

Where the rubber meets the road are you really better off with tne over propionate? Its much easier to use at a higher concentration with almost no problems brewing.

If you are looking for something pre workout dbol, anadrol? I can name other compounds.

I just feel using alot of solvent just can't be good for you. I've had bb dissolve plastic.

 

[Red_subbottom]

Have done plenty of home brewing but decided to give TNE a try. I’m using the standard 2%ba and 18%bb but even with heat I cannot get the raws to fully dissolve and clear up in the MCT oil so I can filter. I typically use as little heat as possible but I was thinking maybe test base with no ester needs a higher temp? I know plenty of labs sell it at 100mg so it must hold well and I must be missing something. Do I need to add more bb to help the raws dissolve? Any help is appreciated thanks!

You can’t make test no ester in oil with out supper solvents like guaiacol. Or use EO but it will crash and you will have to reheat every time to get it dissolved again. Personally I’d use test transdermal, test ace, or test suspension before TNE in oil any day.

 

[klokke23]

Have done plenty of home brewing but decided to give TNE a try. I’m using the standard 2%ba and 18%bb but even with heat I cannot get the raws to fully dissolve and clear up in the MCT oil so I can filter. I typically use as little heat as possible but I was thinking maybe test base with no ester needs a higher temp? I know plenty of labs sell it at 100mg so it must hold well and I must be missing something. Do I need to add more bb to help the raws dissolve? Any help is appreciated thanks!

50 mg/ml in smaller vials. It will crash, but reheat under tap water before use every time. If you're fine with that.

Micronized TNE (test) in oil? Why make suspension?

I see a lot of brews on TNE, and they're all in suspension it seems. Is this because you can't hold it at any reasonable concentration in oil? Panda offers TNE and TNE micronized. Not sure what this accomplished but I bought it. Hoping a simple BB MCT recipe will be sufficient. Getting the...

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[chris gordon]

You can’t make test no ester in oil with out supper solvents like guaiacol. Or use EO but it will crash and you will have to reheat every time to get it dissolved again. Personally I’d use test transdermal, test ace, or test suspension before TNE in oil any day.

Finally the answer... yes must have guaiacol to hold test base or stanazolol in oil. Water based suspension is easier but PIP is always an issue.

 

[Diempes]

Finally the answer... yes must have guaiacol to hold test base or stanazolol in oil. Water based suspension is easier but PIP is always an issue.

50mg/ml stano in oil wont hold... even with guai... it should be 25mg. Using more than 20% guai isnt a good thing.
Even using 100% EO wont hold.
Suspension is easier and depends on ur stano wont pip.

 

[Red_subbottom]

50mg/ml stano in oil wont hold... even with guai... it should be 25mg. Using more than 20% guai isnt a good thing.
Even using 100% EO wont hold.
Suspension is easier and depends on ur stano wont pip.

EO holds test base. But it crashes in a day or two. But reheats on a stove burner quick then inject when it cool downs. Or take the preloaded syringe with you to work and use it when you go to gym

 

[Pezidente]

Have done plenty of home brewing but decided to give TNE a try. I’m using the standard 2%ba and 18%bb but even with heat I cannot get the raws to fully dissolve and clear up in the MCT oil so I can filter. I typically use as little heat as possible but I was thinking maybe test base with no ester needs a higher temp? I know plenty of labs sell it at 100mg so it must hold well and I must be missing something. Do I need to add more bb to help the raws dissolve? Any help is appreciated thanks!

Esterless hormones need mortar & pestle (long time) and a strong solvent. Most use Guiacol (it was in Mr T's fina kit) as the 'super solvent' and Animal had his mystery 'A' (Anything solvent) which is Ethyl Lactate and IMO better anyway & coming thru your skin it smells almost floral instead of a stick of incense. 1% BA (2 if it suits you) and fuck the BB. 15% or maybe more Ethyl Lactate (or Guiacol) and MCT oil should always work. You may have to dose at 75mg but Winny at 100mg in water is cake compared to test base at 100mg. It's not worth it IMO. Guys using 30% solvent should re-examine what they are doing. I've had to tell guys that I am no guru but if someone wants to use winny-the oral is about 80% of the injectable and water based injections can still go bad so why bother? Test prop & phenylprop (75mg/75mg per ml) cause zero pain. Just don't use the Miglycol 840 crap & EO could maybe be justified for TNE but give it 6 months or so and it will eat a standard stopper. I had a gym brother and friend of almost 30 yrs die in his sleep at 48 in June of 2020 (heart) and another needs a kidney. Be careful.

 

[Pezidente]

50mg/ml stano in oil wont hold... even with guai... it should be 25mg. Using more than 20% guai isnt a good thing.
Even using 100% EO wont hold.
Suspension is easier and depends on ur stano wont pip.

was this micornied and then ground up some more??

 

[monichi]

TNE 25mg/ml
18%BB 2%BA
Oil: MCT

Finished product: one vial of 30 ml
MCT: 23.3ml
Raw: 750mg
BB: 5.4ml
BA: 0.6ml

TNE 50mg/ml (not tested from Qingdao)
30%BB 2%BA
Oil: MCT