I don't blame them. That's my worst case scenario plan if I lose a leg for example and can't get a job to pay everything. I choose that anytime then sleeping on the streets
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Scandinavian country and Japan are from another planet
Roco Bama
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Countries that have the best prisons also have the most generous welfare system. In Scandinavia for example, you'll instantly be put on a project housing and get monthly checks from the government if you can't pay your bills anymore.
True, its very hard to be homeless in Scandinavia for long because you can walk in to social services and they will help you out to get an apartment. People with no jobs also have their rents pretty much paid for, because of the welfare system and they will have money left for living.
Pantera
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That's awesome. You could visit your family during Christmas and other holidays. Those were the most depressing and lonely days inside.
Yes it is man. Though you only get permission for the leaves after you have served 2/3 of your sentence, so the beginning in the max security prisons are still just as horrible. Although i think in scandinavia we have much more 'luxuries' in prison i.e. you have tv's in your cell and depending on the wing you get to hit the gym 1-3 times a week etc.
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WannaBeBIG
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Ex cocaine addict here clean for 12 years. Off the booze for 4 years and off weed for 2 years. Those are the only drugs that ever gave me problems. Everything else I've tried I didn't enjoy.
In my younger, more reactive and angry days I got into a bar fight and got popped with an assault charge that stuck. Biggest mistake of my life was getting into that fight while piss drunk not thinking of the potential consequences it would have.
In my younger, more reactive and angry days I got into a bar fight and got popped with an assault charge that stuck. Biggest mistake of my life was getting into that fight while piss drunk not thinking of the potential consequences it would have.
Damn good job mate, i had the same drugs as my biggest problems. In the end i was also using opiates and benzos, they were gnarly with the withdrawals but cocaine and weed are different, they haunt your head after years of being clean.
Well gotta be proud of ourselves..
Only one thing to get rid of anymore and its this fucking stubborn gyno that keeps popping up, makes me act like like im still using coke or amphetamines i will be taking photos and videos of it for an hour and when my girlfriend tells me its not really that bad i bitch out because she doesent get it
or maybe its the tren
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barbell001
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I was an alcoholic from 18 to 34, now I'm coming up to 8 years sober next month 
I spent my 20's doing law breaking things such as drink driving every night etc. By the skin of my teeth I narrowly avoided going to prison for something and instead got 300 hours community service - that was enough of a wake up call for me to fuckin grow up and realise its not me against the world or indeed the police. Its not the steroids themselves you become addicted to, its the results they give you. I mean the UNBELIEVEABLE results they give you. Whether its strength or size that you constantly desire, the longer that you run them the less you want to come off them. And when you do, seeing yourself shrink everyday and get weaker seriously sucks ass, so you take up pinning again. This then becomes the vicious cycle you can end up trapped within if you are not careful.
I spent my 20's doing law breaking things such as drink driving every night etc. By the skin of my teeth I narrowly avoided going to prison for something and instead got 300 hours community service - that was enough of a wake up call for me to fuckin grow up and realise its not me against the world or indeed the police. Its not the steroids themselves you become addicted to, its the results they give you. I mean the UNBELIEVEABLE results they give you. Whether its strength or size that you constantly desire, the longer that you run them the less you want to come off them. And when you do, seeing yourself shrink everyday and get weaker seriously sucks ass, so you take up pinning again. This then becomes the vicious cycle you can end up trapped within if you are not careful.Well said brother, i often feel like on cycle i am just barely okay without a shirt on and when i come off cycle/blast having body dysmorphia and low self esteem is really a bitch because it always takes you back to "you look like shit" mode.I was an alcoholic from 18 to 34, now I'm coming up to 8 years sober next month
I was homeless for a few weeks and saw this happen. I remember standing in line outside the shelter and we were all just silent looking at this hawk perchet up top the roof...well after a minute the hawk just effortlessly swooped down, reached outbits talons, then grabbed and crushed a little Robin in its grip. Then it just sat there and ate it.
I swear it felt like a message from the universe. If you don't get to the top, then you'll be crushed and turned into food for the rest.
I have a lengthy story about how the healthcare system got me hooked know opioids. Starting with my first IV morphine shot, to liquid oxygen for a good month, to vicodins here and there to MS-Contins for 6 months, to fentanyl patches for 14 or 15 months along either percocets and somas. Eventually I fucked up the patches of course and moved on to Heroin for a gold while. Finally went to rehab and cpuldnt latch on to thay 12 step shit because i dont believe in god. Got out and kept using. Then one day after like 10 months I just decided fuck this I'm done. I spent a week feeling like shit then went back to school.
Eventually got myself hooked on poppy tea for a few months, then switched to kratom. Did kratom for like 2 or 2 years then quit.
Had a few little slip ups on the poppy tea or kratom here and there.
Bodybuilding, lifting, cardio, hiking, being outdoors, all of these things give me something better than a high. It's a feeling of actual progress. I am focused on the PROCESS, not the results. And I love if. I do need/want to take more time off between cycles though....its hard. I don't wanna die in 10-20byears.
WannaBeBIG
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My main vice was always alcohol. Started around age 12 until my 30s very heavily daily drinking for most my life. When I got sober I read and watched a lot from Gabor Mate who deals with many addicts and he questions “not why the addiction but why the pain leading to the addiction”. I think for most of us there’s a reason we first started using and it’s usually not just because we liked getting high/drunk but were trying to soothe some hurt we weren’t able to face yet.
I know my drinking kept me numb to a lot of trauma but killing myself slowly wasn’t the answer so the easy choice was to give up the drugs/drinks and gain a whole full life with so much to offer.
Having been there and been to rehab twice I’ve met many recovering addicts and many have been some of the kindest people I’ve ever met. Real people to the core. I have a mountain of respect for people who come back from addiction
I know my drinking kept me numb to a lot of trauma but killing myself slowly wasn’t the answer so the easy choice was to give up the drugs/drinks and gain a whole full life with so much to offer.
Having been there and been to rehab twice I’ve met many recovering addicts and many have been some of the kindest people I’ve ever met. Real people to the core. I have a mountain of respect for people who come back from addiction
Huppurotta
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Im from Finland also,never been in prison tho. Jail only and community service. I used heroin,benzos and speed. Now im on suboxone from doctor.
I also grow without my father like op. Got into crime very young and met this one dude who was little older than me who basically "took me under his wing". He helped me a lot like if i got beat up he would jump in and help me if i was bullied in school etc. At that momemt i was just drinkin alcohol a lot. He did couple runs in prison couple years a time. Then one day i heard he got 12year sentence and her gf was pregntant. Long story short,he killed himself in prison after that. Rip T. I carry your name on my skin
And that really got me. My that time girlfriend was with me when i heard the news. She said that he can burn in hell and because he was criminal its good that he is death. (Even tho he never did anything to her,she barelly know him,just heard stories) So i started using benzos etc and later heroin IV.
Now im been clean about 2 years,or clean in like no illegal drugs only what they give me on my clinic. (only on suboxone 14mg/day)
Training really has helped me to get over some things that ive seen/did myself. I basically changed my drug addiction to gym. I was little over 50kilos at my worst and now im about 70-73kg. This post was long sorry about it,i just got Lost into this mode,it happens sometimes when i think my past.
If you are strugling with addiction,i believe in you, we all have power inside us that can help us make a change
I also grow without my father like op. Got into crime very young and met this one dude who was little older than me who basically "took me under his wing". He helped me a lot like if i got beat up he would jump in and help me if i was bullied in school etc. At that momemt i was just drinkin alcohol a lot. He did couple runs in prison couple years a time. Then one day i heard he got 12year sentence and her gf was pregntant. Long story short,he killed himself in prison after that. Rip T. I carry your name on my skin
And that really got me. My that time girlfriend was with me when i heard the news. She said that he can burn in hell and because he was criminal its good that he is death. (Even tho he never did anything to her,she barelly know him,just heard stories) So i started using benzos etc and later heroin IV.
Now im been clean about 2 years,or clean in like no illegal drugs only what they give me on my clinic. (only on suboxone 14mg/day)
Training really has helped me to get over some things that ive seen/did myself. I basically changed my drug addiction to gym. I was little over 50kilos at my worst and now im about 70-73kg. This post was long sorry about it,i just got Lost into this mode,it happens sometimes when i think my past.
If you are strugling with addiction,i believe in you, we all have power inside us that can help us make a change
Our stories sound pretty similar in a way. The VA fed me every pain pill you could imagine and they increased dosages anytime I asked. That is where my addiction started.
I also dabbled with poppy pod tea for a good while, damn that shit was disgusting but potent as hell. Had my wife at the time(ex now) convinced the tea I was making was an herbal tea to help me sleep at night. Which was kinda true, just not entirely true.
Zerg
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Gear has completely destroyed my desire for alchol and I have been a lifelong alcoholic. Lucky side effect I suppose.
For me too! Only thing i desire anymore is weed sometimes when im on tren lol
I do not like this. This breeds weak people with no drive. Who was the last Scandinavian person to change the world with something accomplished? Or anything of note?
there needs to be consequences for not paying bills and being productive. Capitalism rewards the driven. Without that, the USA would be inconsequential like all the Scandinavian countries too. And we appear to be headed to Loserland in the states soon too though. Literally seeing what has set us apart from the rest of the world just be given away without a fight. So maddening
Started doing AA, and i am just listening to the part about god and higher power, making my higher power the energy of the universe. As i dont believe in god. But i i am ok with others who do, because who am i to say they are wrong. When its what they believe. So i pass over that part, because the other aspects are for healing spiritually. But the healing if the pain felt and progressing like @MFAAS said is huge. I am really done with all the pain that cane with substance use. It just gets worse and worse always leading to the same dam place lower and lower.
Been working this program because i have no way else to try to get sober. I have tried everything. And so far so good. I must spend 2-3 hours working on myself because my last relapse was tourture and horrible. The damage that can be done in just 5-9 days is ridiculous.
Been working this program because i have no way else to try to get sober. I have tried everything. And so far so good. I must spend 2-3 hours working on myself because my last relapse was tourture and horrible. The damage that can be done in just 5-9 days is ridiculous.
Although i agree on some parts like laziness should not be rewarded, you just made yourself sound like a stereotypical dumb ass yankee lol
'Murica
What has the USA done recently that changed anything for the better?
Even the president is damn near incapable of forming a normal sentence. The one before that was even worse. Also US is probably top of the list on unhealthy people, and crime, and the best US cant go a few years without sparking a war.
And besides all this, most likely you wouldnt know about the accomplishments of european countries because you most likely cant even pinpoint Europe on a map let alone know anythkng that happens here.
ALSO the unemployment rate in scandinavia is lower than the US, and the minimum wage is way higher
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