Anavar or Masteron?

[Live_Evil]

Anavar is a waste for men, in my opinion. It’s great for women but there are tons of better oral options for men. DMZ, or dymethazine, is a DHT based designer steroid that blows Anavar out of the water, is much cheaper and can be purchased for “research” purposes. Anavar is also one of the more common hormones to be faked.

I really wish this myth would die. Anavar is excellent for acute strength gains, and pretty damned anabolic mg for mg.

Have you ever tried anavar? Maybe you had a bad experience with it, but that isn't the case for everyone. It's an amazing compound. It's a "feel good" steroid through and through. And if you can push through the strength gains proportionately, you'll build gobs of muscle.

 

[Live_Evil]

I'll agree with you on the Prino aspect
I think Mast is great and has its place, I dont think its garbage, I've loved Mast with Deca, one of my favorite stacks.

But Test/Primo is just too fucking good.
and the fullness/Qaulity of a Prino cycle is just fantastic.... I'll probably never run Mast again...(Because Primo is a thing)

But I'd say it's a good compound.... just inferior to Primo IMHO


I have to disagree ........BUT from a powerlifting perspective, I've always made a good strength improvement from var and managed to add weight to my lifts while staying the relative same weight and dropping a little fat.
A few Powerlifters I respect and learn from, sometimes just prep for a meet with TRT and Anavar only.

I cant really speak from a bodybuilder perspective as I've never used it for that... only Adrol ... over a dozen years ago to gain wicked size

Yeah man, I shouldn't have called it garbage. I just think of it that way after using primo. I actually used mast before primo, and was amazed once I used real primo, rather than its cheap step cousin. Primo + test is such an amazing cycle for feeling good, having good health markers, and still making gains.

Why would Primo boost strength much? It lacks significant androgenicity compared to Test and Mast

I actually wouldn't call primo a good steroid for gaining strength. I was talking about anavar.

 

[Theworm]

Anavar is a waste for men, in my opinion. It’s great for women but there are tons of better oral options for men. DMZ, or dymethazine, is a DHT based designer steroid that blows Anavar out of the water, is much cheaper and can be purchased for “research” purposes. Anavar is also one of the more common hormones to be faked.

IMO I’ve tried dmz and got acne and didn’t really notice much. Oxandrolone from a us pharmacy was much better for me, strength increased crazy (50mg) and hardened me up good... loved oxandrolone, would never use dmz again

 

[Sampei]

Yeah but primo is fucking expensive but that's the minor problem, the biggest one is 100mg/ml for fuck sake! I'm not gonna pin 6 ml of oil a week of just primo. So yeah tren masteron test alternated with test/deca until I'm old or dead. Anavar sometime at the end of a blast to break through plateau. End of story for me on compounds.

 

[Sampei]

Btw anavar give me killer pumpz and that wouldnt be a problem if it didn't give me pumpz while chewing.... My fucking mandible explode EVERYTIME I chew bread or anything that isn't soft while I'm on anavar. My wife experience the same... A fucking pain in the butt I tell you, especially when eating 2 pizzas ahahahah

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Yeah but primo is fucking expensive but that's the minor problem, the biggest one is 100mg/ml for fuck sake! I'm not gonna pin 6 ml of oil a week of just primo. So yeah tren masteron test alternated with test/deca until I'm old or dead. Anavar sometime at the end of a blast to break through plateau. End of story for me on compounds.

Yeaj dunno why labs do that.
I get 150mg/ml Primo with no GC and no PIP
Guys like @JetsFan can homebrew qaulity Primo over 100mg without issue if I remember correctly

 

[Live_Evil]

Yeaj dunno why labs do that.
I get 150mg/ml Primo with no GC and no PIP
Guys like @JetsFan can homebrew qaulity Primo over 100mg without issue if I remember correctly

Yeah, I currently have some 200mg/ml and there isn't any PIP at all. I really have no idea why they hardly ever go higher than 100mg/ml.

 

[Test_Subject]

Yeah, I currently have some 200mg/ml and there isn't any PIP at all. I really have no idea why they hardly ever go higher than 100mg/ml.

Price, mostly.

 

[Ryu82]

OP, another vote for test/mast 1:1 or 1:2 here.

Was not a fan of anavar but test and mast puts me in a very happy place...

Except for trying to pee at 3am with a ridiculous hard on. I just cant get past a 45 degree tilt.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

I run Masteron at higher ratios to Test than others and have had good results with zero side additional effects. My favorite stack is High Mast:Low Test:Low to Very Low Tren.

Just not a fan of oral steroids myself.

Agree. That is my cycle right now. My favorite. The older I get, the less I like the bloat/moonface/gainer gear.

500 mg Masteron/300 test/250 Tren is my sweet spot. Very little sides, feel like a God.

 

[Ninjaturtle2020]

I really wish this myth would die. Anavar is excellent for acute strength gains, and pretty damned anabolic mg for mg.

Have you ever tried anavar? Maybe you had a bad experience with it, but that isn't the case for everyone. It's an amazing compound. It's a "feel good" steroid through and through. And if you can push through the strength gains proportionately, you'll build gobs of muscle.

I got pretty ripped off anavar and testosterone. That stuff is not weak at all. I took anavar for breakfast with an energy drink and could do fuckin' 20 sets until failure with a smile on

 

[Mr350mg2]

Bottom line is if tou had a bad experience with anavar you took too much to start. I made this mistake and started at 40mg. I couldnt sleep, i had heart burn, whatever i ate was never enough, unbearable agression, my teeth felt clenched all the time like i could bite down so hard they would explode in my mouth. So I dropped the var down to 20mg where it was manageable and realized thats all my body can handle and be comfortable. I'm fine with that 20mg/ a day is amazing for performance and even better for the recovery boost. Im running 125mg test E 200 primo/ 140 var a week. My lifts are going up in weight at an incredible rate of progression. Almost to the point i should slow down or I wont have anything left to do in a couple years.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Bottom line is if tou had a bad experience with anavar you took too much to start. I made this mistake and started at 40mg. I couldnt sleep, i had heart burn, whatever i ate was never enough, unbearable agression, my teeth felt clenched all the time like i could bite down so hard they would explode in my mouth. So I dropped the var down to 20mg where it was manageable and realized thats all my body can handle and be comfortable. I'm fine with that 20mg/ a day is amazing for performance and even better for the recovery boost. Im running 125mg test E 200 primo/ 140 var a week. My lifts are going up in weight at an incredible rate of progression. Almost to the point i should slow down or I wont have anything left to do in a couple years.

Take progesterone before bed to relax from androgens.

 

[Mr350mg2]

Take progesterone before bed to relax from androgens.

Thanks very much for this.

 

[the_unit]

There is definitely a lot of interindividual variability with response to anavar. I was also very underwhelmed when I used it, may give it a go at another point, but not the experience I hear shared by people who like it.

 

[Country Club Hero]

No other compound makes me as strong as oxandralone. But it comes with heartburn and back pumps. But tendon snapping strength for sure. Mast is amazing and makes a great companion to tren or NPP. I imagine with trest too.

primo is pretty unique as well. But you have to be careful with it if you don’t take higher test or things that aromatize. I don’t like that i can’t run 600 primo and 250 test. I can run those numbers with mast and test though and still feel great. But primo does a number on my estrogen. Mast makes me look statuesque and grainy. All while boosting sex drive and sense of well-being. And high quality mast is an experience.

 

[Alistair7]

I was looking around for a similar thread, I’m currently on 50mg Anavar a day. And since adding it in I feel utterly horrible. I’m irritable, I have stomach pains, I have not done a solid poop since starting it, I get deep muscular pains running up my neck onto my head, headaches, and I feel like I have a weird kind of haze over me. I’m dropping it from right now after only 17 days. I felt like Hercules himself before taking 40mg Tbol a day, I said I’d try Anavar this time.

Are these sides somewhat common or uncommon? I don’t feel right at all since adding it on. All else I’m taking is a straight forward 500mg test e a week. Diet is good, training is good, sleep is good, I’m taking the needed natural things to combat BP and cholesterol and such. BP is 114/60.

I don’t care what anyone else says, 50mg of Anavar is overkill. 10mg 3x a day would be my max. Why not try running a lower dose before stopping it completely

 

[Alistair7]

Yeah but primo is fucking expensive but that's the minor problem, the biggest one is 100mg/ml for fuck sake! I'm not gonna pin 6 ml of oil a week of just primo. So yeah tren masteron test alternated with test/deca until I'm old or dead. Anavar sometime at the end of a blast to break through plateau. End of story for me on compounds.

Pharmacom had an excellent Primo 200 product until they axed it. I’m trying to get them to produce it again.