First cycle (progress) of many to come…

[PinIt2WinIt]

You will be okay running two compounds. My first cycle I ran 400 test and 50 mg anavar. Zero issues

Yeah I agree…I know it’s “good” to run just test to see how you react but I was willing to take an extra risk with the dbol. Next cycle depending on how this goes I want to run anavar. I’ve heard good things about it…also debating right now if I want to just cruise instead of doing a pct. I’ll be able to get some shit before this cycle is done.

 

[Deezznutzz]

Yeah I agree…I know it’s “good” to run just test to see how you react but I was willing to take an extra risk with the dbol. Next cycle depending on how this goes I want to run anavar. I’ve heard good things about it…also debating right now if I want to just cruise instead of doing a pct. I’ll be able to get some shit before this cycle is done.

I wish I started trt at your age. I waited until I was 45. My dr was making fun of me wanting to wait until 50.

 

[PinIt2WinIt]

I wish I started trt at your age. I waited until I was 45. My dr was making fun of me wanting to wait until 50.

Damn 50?! Yeah I’m still kinda researching it. I see a lot of people argue it’s better than doing a pct and then hopping back on a cycle going back and forth like that. Pct is better for guys doing a blast and then waiting an extended amount of time before another one is what I’ve been seeing…?

 

[Deezznutzz]

Damn 50?! Yeah I’m still kinda researching it. I see a lot of people argue it’s better than doing a pct and then hopping back on a cycle going back and forth like that. Pct is better for guys doing a blast and then waiting an extended amount of time before another one is what I’ve been seeing…?

What's your total t? I started when mine hit 499 but it was also 399 the time before that. I was able to boost it 100 points with steaks and eggs.

 

[PinIt2WinIt]

What's your total t? I started when mine hit 499 but it was also 399 the time before that. I was able to boost it 100 points with steaks and eggs.

I’m going to get blasted for this but I didn’t get bloods done pre cycle. I was super skeptical of where I could get shit done around here and not get in trouble with the military finding out etc. I just recently found out about privatemdlabs.com so I’m going to run a during cycle test at least just to kind of see where everything is that way. It is what it is lessons learned.

 

[MetalAsh]

It's much better to run a DHT like substance (like primo, var, or winstrol) on top of test than using dbol. Gives big strength gains and enhances the effect of test quite a bit.

A lot of private labs will handle the results through mail. If you're important enough in the military that you have intel agencies going through your mails from time to time then I guess you have reason to be paranoid otherwise they won't care / find out. I'd be more concerned about leaving needles on base, training deployments etc.

 

[PinIt2WinIt]

It's much better to run a DHT like substance (like primo, var, or winstrol) on top of test than using dbol. Gives big strength gains and enhances the effect of test quite a bit.

A lot of private labs will handle the results through mail. If you're important enough in the military that you have intel agencies going through your mails from time to time then I guess you have reason to be paranoid otherwise they won't care / find out. I'd be more concerned about leaving needles on base, training deployments etc.

Yeah next blast I plan to run anavar for sure. Luckily right now deployments are non existent and training is slow. I’m at a point now where I can comfortably do a blast and not worry about being gone for a week or something. Also living off base so needles do not even touch the base or their trash lol.

 

[Rido]

I started test and primo on my first cycle.(I came from TRT) I used my first cycle as a learning cycle for different compounds. probably dropped more money on blood work than I did on AAS.

anavar
anadrol
mast
test
primo
hgh

I wound up ending with test/Mast and cruised on mast
I have 0 regrets.... but thats doesnt mean you wont.

I think test/mast/var are mild enough to know the difference. I did like anadrol but I could feel water retention at 2 weeks

 

[PinIt2WinIt]

I started test and primo on my first cycle.(I came from TRT) I used my first cycle as a learning cycle for different compounds. probably dropped more money on blood work than I did on AAS.

anavar
anadrol
mast
test
primo
hgh

I wound up ending with test/Mast and cruised on mast
I have 0 regrets.... but thats doesnt mean you wont.

I think test/mast/var are mild enough to know the difference. I did like anadrol but I could feel water retention at 2 weeks

This is actually pretty interesting never thought about doing that…experimenting with mild stuff one at a time on top of test as the base. Not going to lie I feel slightly bummed about the lack of benefits I got from dbol. I don’t want to go full retard and just blast a bunch of shit but I also feel confident in how I feel so far and potentially maybe including anavar or mast on the last half of this cycle. No matter what you do there will ALWAYS be someone on here to argue and say your decisions are fucking retarded and to do what they did/think you should do. Nobody knows your body as well as you….I think there’s definitely a line of going overboard and being overly safe with shit.

 

[Rido]

This is actually pretty interesting never thought about doing that…experimenting with mild stuff one at a time on top of test as the base. Not going to lie I feel slightly bummed about the lack of benefits I got from dbol. I don’t want to go full retard and just blast a bunch of shit but I also feel confident in how I feel so far and potentially maybe including anavar or mast on the last half of this cycle. No matter what you do there will ALWAYS be someone on here to argue and say your decisions are fucking retarded and to do what they did/think you should do. Nobody knows your body as well as you….I think there’s definitely a line of going overboard and being overly safe with shit.

Sometimes its fun to try different things.

Ironically I went less on my anabolics for cycle 2. Dbol hasn't been on that list.


Atleast you know how Dbol is. Right?


For mast if you are prone to hair loss it may worsen in. Even for my cruise I noticed I don't retain water at all from sodium which I love.

 

[PinIt2WinIt]

Sometimes its fun to try different things.

Ironically I went less on my anabolics for cycle 2. Dbol hasn't been on that list.


Atleast you know how Dbol is. Right?


For mast if you are prone to hair loss it may worsen in. Even for my cruise I noticed I don't retain water at all from sodium which I love.

Lol yeah not a complete loss at least now I know. Yeah I’ve noticed I’ve been shedding hair more than usual…not sure if it’s “a lot” but more than normal. Mast better than var for strength gains? Looking good isn’t my too priority…I don’t want to be a big fat fuck and strong though lol look good but strong as fuck.

 

[Rido]

Lol yeah not a complete loss at least now I know. Yeah I’ve noticed I’ve been shedding hair more than usual…not sure if it’s “a lot” but more than normal. Mast better than var for strength gains? Looking good isn’t my too priority…I don’t want to be a big fat fuck and strong though lol look good but strong as fuck.

I am not sure but I think mast is harder on the hair than var. In terms of strength I would think maybe var is better? I would defer to someone more experienced

 

[hometeam]

It's much better to run a DHT like substance (like primo, var, or winstrol) on top of test than using dbol. Gives big strength gains and enhances the effect of test quite a bit.

A lot of private labs will handle the results through mail. If you're important enough in the military that you have intel agencies going through your mails from time to time then I guess you have reason to be paranoid otherwise they won't care / find out. I'd be more concerned about leaving needles on base, training deployments etc.

He might've been trying to kickstart the cycle since he's using long test esters. Notice the dbol is only the first 4-5 weeks.

 

[PinIt2WinIt]

He might've been trying to kickstart the cycle since he's using long test esters. Notice the dbol is only the first 4-5 weeks.

It was the kickstart without a kickstart hahaha. But yeah that was the idea…

 

[PinIt2WinIt]

Okay…6 week check in. Dropped the dbol at 4 weeks since it really didn't so shit for me and started anavar at week 5. So right now I’ve been on 50mg/ day of that…taking one 25mg in the AM and one in the PM or before a workout. My weight got up to 210 on the last day of dbol. This last week I had work early mornings until super late at night basically getting 4-5 hours of sleep and eating basically crumbs (whatever the fuck was in the pantry or fridge) that I could make at 1am fast and pass out lol. As well as McDonald’s or Taco Bell a couple times for lunch. Ended up dropping down to 202 got back from that shit and devoured steak, ground beef, potatoes, broccoli, etc…today I weighed in at 204.4lbs. Strength is starting to go up and I’m noticing an increase in my vascularity especially when I’m super pumped. I also said fuck it and increased the test from 500mg to 750mg/week at week 5 when I started the anavar and injecting three times a week (M/W/F). No apparent sides yet thankfully and I’m feeling super solid. Started including more farmers carries in my workouts. So I’ll either hit shrugs one day or farmers carries when I used to only do different shrug variations. I’m also doing more bicep work just supersetted after my supplemental work or accessory depending on how I’m feeling. Also alternating between dumbbells, ez curl, or barbell.

 

[PinIt2WinIt]

Week 8 update…

Ran anavar for 3 weeks the majority of it at 50mg twice a day and the test at 750mg per week. Saw a ton of strength increase in all of my lifts.
Squat: 475 (20#pr)
Bench: 285 (10#pr)
Deadlift: 500 (25#pr)
Body weight floats between 205-208.

Ordered some more test cyp, tren ace, and anadrol last week. Decided to cut the anavar out to save for my cruise and dropped my test back to 500mg per week. Added the tren on Monday which I’ll run 100mg eod along with the anadrol 50mg twice a day. I have some TUDCA, milk thistle, and potassium supplements coming in this week to start taking. So far as of this morning my blood pressure was 136/80 which isn’t too bad? What’s actually kind of crazy is that my BP has dropped since I started using gear. Not sure if it’s because I stopped taking pre workout, energy drinks (occasionally), and eating healthier or all of the above, but, I’m pumped about that. Going to run the test, tren, anadrol for the remainder of the cycle which will be 6 weeks unless anything crazy happens etc.

 

[hometeam]

You're getting results. Probably not the kind of results you wanted since you're switching to the strongest PEDs there are though. Tren and adrol will make a big difference though. Careful not to hurt yourself.

Lifting strength will immediately go up like 20% and your tendons might not be strong enough for it. Watch for gyno. And above all else, you've already been taking dbol and high dose anavar for 8 weeks, be careful with the adrol and your liver. You start getting diarrhea or pale floating stools then discontinue the adrol immediately. Tren isn't exactly easy on your liver either.

 

[PinIt2WinIt]

You're getting results. Probably not the kind of results you wanted since you're switching to the strongest PEDs there are though. Tren and adrol will make a big difference though. Careful not to hurt yourself.

Lifting strength will immediately go up like 20% and your tendons might not be strong enough for it. Watch for gyno. And above all else, you've already been taking dbol and high dose anavar for 8 weeks, be careful with the adrol and your liver. You start getting diarrhea or pale floating stools then discontinue the adrol immediately. Tren isn't exactly easy on your liver either.

Thanks man…yeah noticing results strength and aesthetically for sure. I’m thinking of keeping the weight down and focusing on maybe 3 or 5 rep maxes or just keeping it around rpe 8 and not going full throttle. Haven’t had any gyno flare up yet thankfully but got meds on hand if needed. Thanks for the info on what to look for in the stools. I’m thinking the liver supports, eating good, and no alcohol should be alright…when I cruise I’ll or ably drop all the orals and just keep it simple with the test.

 

[Clyde]

Okay…6 week check in. Dropped the dbol at 4 weeks since it really didn't so shit for me and started anavar at week 5. So right now I’ve been on 50mg/ day of that…taking one 25mg in the AM and one in the PM or before a workout. My weight got up to 210 on the last day of dbol. This last week I had work early mornings until super late at night basically getting 4-5 hours of sleep and eating basically crumbs (whatever the fuck was in the pantry or fridge) that I could make at 1am fast and pass out lol. As well as McDonald’s or Taco Bell a couple times for lunch. Ended up dropping down to 202 got back from that shit and devoured steak, ground beef, potatoes, broccoli, etc…today I weighed in at 204.4lbs. Strength is starting to go up and I’m noticing an increase in my vascularity especially when I’m super pumped. I also said fuck it and increased the test from 500mg to 750mg/week at week 5 when I started the anavar and injecting three times a week (M/W/F). No apparent sides yet thankfully and I’m feeling super solid. Started including more farmers carries in my workouts. So I’ll either hit shrugs one day or farmers carries when I used to only do different shrug variations. I’m also doing more bicep work just supersetted after my supplemental work or accessory depending on how I’m feeling. Also alternating between dumbbells, ez curl, or barbell.

Nice progress and documentation!

What lab is the dbol? I used dbol with test many years ago and didn't notice anything, so I just assumed it was bunk.

That's quite a first cycle my dude! Tren, you're braver than me when I started. My first cycle was test e @ 250mg every 4th day. That shit dramatically increased my strength pretty quickly. I was at about 3rd yr of solid lifting at that point, and seemed to be pretty maxed out being natural.

Did a few more cycles, this was 20 years ago btw, and went from about 170's to just under 200 by the time I stopped lifting/gear.

I recall you in the 24hr thread. Hopefully the dbol isn't odin. Some of the odin shit (test p for sure) I got pretty sure is bunk.

 

[PinIt2WinIt]

Nice progress and documentation!

What lab is the dbol? I used dbol with test many years ago and didn't notice anything, so I just assumed it was bunk.

That's quite a first cycle my dude! Tren, you're braver than me when I started. My first cycle was test e @ 250mg every 4th day. That shit dramatically increased my strength pretty quickly. I was at about 3rd yr of solid lifting at that point, and seemed to be pretty maxed out being natural.

Did a few more cycles, this was 20 years ago btw, and went from about 170's to just under 200 by the time I stopped lifting/gear.

I recall you in the 24hr thread. Hopefully the dbol isn't odin. Some of the odin shit (test p for sure) I got pretty sure is bunk.

Yeah I’m kinda of using this cycle to experiment and see how I do with a few different compounds lol. Is it looked down upon? Sure…oh well. I could be doing a lot worse shit you know? It’s helping me plan what I want to do for future cycles with stuff that I KNOW I respond well to. But, the dbol was from Driada. I don’t THINK it was bunk just because I’ve read that dbol is ultra cheap and not really faked often. I’ve read that some people don’t respond well to dbol like some do? Which is why I’m trying the anadrol…the anavar I got is from Odin though. I didn’t get it tested but I responded well with it because I started leaning out and getting pretty strong while at maintenance calories maybe some days at a surplus.