MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
tren micro-dose experiment
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phenominal34
Banned
Yea, you’re rite, I’ll just let it be.
Here is another one, recently posted in Meso, and he put on at least a good 20-25lbs. It's not like this is unheard of.
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That sounds reasonable then if she doesn’t suffer from the other sides, really awesome. I didn’t even know you can’t go in the sun but for me too this defeats the purpose hahaha. Also imo there are so many other potential side effects that sound terrible that can be life long, like joint pain...
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Slowww
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Based on my experience it’s definitely possible but maybe not common. I’m running a second blast now and my coach has set the goal of helping me get my bodyweight up to 105kg (230lbs) (adding 15kg/33lbs from my heaviest) so even on my second blast he thinks it’s still possible. By Meso standards the gear quantity is pretty liberal though.
ICBM TANK
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day 3 continued
saturdays plans got canceled because she's looking for monogamy, to which i replied im looking to having as many subs as possible, we still exchanged numbers, now im waiting for her moment in her cycle whens shes at her most horniest to give me a text saying shes open to fwb for my moment to pounce on whats rightfully mine, i have to be very patient, in the mean time ive contacted a milf and became friends with her, but again i have to be patient with her, these women and their games will be the death of me, i should also note im on day 2 of no fap, the urges come and go like tidal waves, but ive learned to breathe this energy in and out as to not go insane, the gym was a great outlet when i was healthy but now i sit her and can only think about pussy and when i get it, tomorrow is a testosterone shot day, i don't know how much longer i can hold out on this no fap, but i will try, the longest ive ever gone with no fap was a week and that was at least a decade ago, ive given up porn a month ago so i like the journey im on, if i can handle this on tren does this make me a god among men?
saturdays plans got canceled because she's looking for monogamy, to which i replied im looking to having as many subs as possible, we still exchanged numbers, now im waiting for her moment in her cycle whens shes at her most horniest to give me a text saying shes open to fwb for my moment to pounce on whats rightfully mine, i have to be very patient, in the mean time ive contacted a milf and became friends with her, but again i have to be patient with her, these women and their games will be the death of me, i should also note im on day 2 of no fap, the urges come and go like tidal waves, but ive learned to breathe this energy in and out as to not go insane, the gym was a great outlet when i was healthy but now i sit her and can only think about pussy and when i get it, tomorrow is a testosterone shot day, i don't know how much longer i can hold out on this no fap, but i will try, the longest ive ever gone with no fap was a week and that was at least a decade ago, ive given up porn a month ago so i like the journey im on, if i can handle this on tren does this make me a god among men?
phenominal34
Banned
You do understand that's not 33 lbs of LEAN BODY MASS correct ?
Slowww
Member
oh yeah definitely lol, that would be insane 33lbs of only lean tissue. There’s def gonna be fat, but trying to do it relatively lean. I didn’t say the amount of lean tissue because there’s no way to know what percentage it will be until the next 5 months are done.
Rido
Subscriber
Isn't the typical estimation 1.5- 2lbs of muscle per week if you are lucky on the first cycle?
Otherwise it's typically 1lb/week for the first few cycles?
lukiss96
Member
There is actually no way to determine how much of that lbm is "real" muscle, because muscle is 75% water. Look at the studies, lean body mass is total mass (bones and water and contractile tissue) minus the FAT. So when we say muscle or LBM/MUSCLE gain in this context, we are actually referring to ACTUAL CONTRACTILE TISSUE.
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There is, actually. If a person was using a wet compound like dianabol or deca you can assume more water weight. But a dry compound like tren or primo not so much.
lukiss96
Member
We all know this, but you need to re-read my post again and do some more research to understand. Fact is water counts as lean body mass.
ICBM TANK
Member
day 4 morning
nothing new to report other than my first urination upon waking was darker with slight hints of orange and yellow, perhaps im a little dehydrated, today is shoulder day, elbows feel recovered and ready for a workout, forgot to mention no fap day 2 failed last night with a masturbation session, restarting today, the first days are always the hardest (that's what she said), also weed has helped me mellow out, even more so with the tren, been smoking daily now with occasionally breaks here and there but its all positive (calmness, not giving a fuck about anything)
nothing new to report other than my first urination upon waking was darker with slight hints of orange and yellow, perhaps im a little dehydrated, today is shoulder day, elbows feel recovered and ready for a workout, forgot to mention no fap day 2 failed last night with a masturbation session, restarting today, the first days are always the hardest (that's what she said), also weed has helped me mellow out, even more so with the tren, been smoking daily now with occasionally breaks here and there but its all positive (calmness, not giving a fuck about anything)
Footfetishguy
Banned for creating alt account to promote sources
Weed definitely helps with appetite, sleep, staying hydrated, and staying calm when your running tren. I smoke it twice a day and it’s benefits greatly outweigh the stigma behind it. It also motivates me more. I’m more enthusiastic and outgoing
No I understand it as much as you or more. We all know about 60% of your body is water, about 76% of muscle mass. Fact is water retention is more an issue with the wet compounds than the dry compounds and no need to bring it up with a primo cycle or tren cycle as if most the gains are inflated due to bloat or will be lost post cycle.
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lukiss96
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I don't like betting, but on this I could bet all I got. What you're talking about is on bro science level so keep it that way, don't get in to scientific stuff if you don't know your shit. Everyone knows that it "bloats" bro... but we are not talking about what bloats or not. Your statement is flawed, by the way stop using other people transformations as your own.
What exactly did you say that isn't bro science here? "No way to determine how much of that lbm is "real" muscle, because muscle is 75% water"? Just because you watched a Tony Huge transformation video where they put on some bloat and talked about it doesn't make you the expert on that. And despite your claims you can get a good estimate of how much of it is water retention just by knowing your compounds and how wet or dry they are. And I've never kept detailed logs of my cycles before. I've never had some jackass say you didn't do that or it isn't possible.
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Drexyl
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The thing that blows my mind is how much information is available. Most don't bother looking up the drugs in the PDR, there's information on half lives, interactions, everything. Of course you won't find certain drugs as they're meant for livestock, but for the pharmaceuticals that's what the doctors go to. It's indisputable.
lukiss96
Member
I don't watch Tony Huge, so not sure what you're talking about here. If even in clinical setting it's not possible to determine what portion of lbm is water. Then that there is also glycogen retention. All we know is that lean body mass is total mass minus fat = lean body mass. No need to be expert to understand this.
You clearly haven't done many cycles then. With 500mg test you can expect about 10lb of bloat, give or take a few. If it's 200mg test and 500mg primo you can expect almost no extra weight due to bloat whatsoever. Tren also gives you almost no water retention. And the more you experiment with these compounds the better idea you can get of how much of your gains is due to water retention because after the cycle the bloat goes away.
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lukiss96
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You got to be kidding me... how then I walk around 220 at 12-13% now on just trt? Go back to end of page 2, that's when I blasted "moderate" amounts. You don't know your shit, just stop man. There is a lot more to this than water retention...
