6 week EPO cycle

[T&H]

November 2021- Hematocrit 44 5
February- Hematocrit 44.0
June 14- Hematocrit 47.5 after 20k IU
July 1- Hematocrit 48.8 after 33k IU

Definitely not up as much as I expected. Will adjust doses and retest shortly. Would love to continue seeing some actual benefits like I am experiencing.

 

[T&H]

Weekly update. My running schedule is Sunday thru Friday with Saturday off. As of last Friday, I hit 39 miles which is the most in a long time. I intended to take last Saturday off, but maybe jogged 2 to 3 miles in the middle of my usual walking without timing myself. Legs definitely weren't rested like usual I found out this week.

As of today, hit exactly 39 miles again. My average pace was down slightly, but legs actually feel okay despite this being the most mileage I've been able to sustain for at least the past 3 years. Everytime I've gotten up above 35mpw for 3+ weeks, fatigue sets in forcing me to cut back.

Absolutely taking off tomorrow, will just walk. I increased the epo this past week, 48k IU in as of today and have 18k left. Either planning crit bloods later next week, or early the following week. Will depend how much I decide to use this week, anticipate crit around 50 now. Going to be interesting to see if I can continue to hit 39 or even more miles the next few weeks. Really enjoying the cycle.

 

[T&H]

Mid week update. Decided to use a 24k and get bloodwork today.

November 2021- Hematocrit 44 5
February- Hematocrit 44.0
June 14- Hematocrit 47.5 after 20k IU
July 1- Hematocrit 48.8 after 33k IU
July 13- Hematocrit 47.4 after 57k IU

Not happy with these recent results. Once I used the first 30k iu which were six 5k pens and showed crit increases, I started my 2nd order which were 3k pens. Unless the hospital messed up the bloodwork reading, looks like its possible these 3k were either fake or lost all potency in the transport. But even so, is it possible to drop 1.4 crit in 2 weeks still running test, primo, and mast? Idk what to make of this. Not definitely saying the 3k pens were 100% fake, but going backwards doesn't look good.

Still able to run consistently and feeling good. Only 3 pens left and based on today's crit, I don't have to worry about it getting too high. I'll post one more time after using the rest.

 

[T&H]

Alright, gonna make this last post and wrap it up. Right at 6 weeks, but ended up using 66k IU in lieu of 30k like I initially planned.

Took yesterday off as usual, but last week hit 41 miles. I think the last 6 weeks were 35, 35,38, 39, 39, and 41 mpw. I've never been able to sustain this mileage this long with no other change. Truth is every single day I could have ran even longer than 6 to 7 miles but limited it to reduce fatigue. Running never seemed so easy. If you read back, I mentioned concerns on starting the cycle because of existing leg fatigue which has actually improved despite mileage increases over time.

I placed one more order for some but going to microdose it. Will see how long I can keep this weekly mileage up before having to come back down. Might consider another run in the fall/winter when training is easier. It's very hot which makes tempos and intervals harder.

 

[ZazuTheGreat]

It was very neat to see how this ended up working out for you. Those are impressive results especially considering you train better in the cold. I’m the same way, even training martial arts my whole life and typically training in 104 or so to help sweat and prevent muscle strain I’ve always performed better outside of the training rooms. I’m sure adrenaline attributes to some of that but it’s very similar experience when I spar in our front room or our octagon room where the mma guys train which isn’t heated quite like our main room and usually runs about 20 degrees cooler with a little variance depending on the time of year but without the excess adrenaline of actual competition. You’ve got me curious how something like this would be beneficial to my training. Great log.

 

[T&H]

Running week done, 41 miles again. Average pace dropped on every run, even the easiest recovery runs. I could keep going past 7 miles, but stopping myself in order to not overdo it. I've never been able to sustain this amount of mileage this long without a set back.

I've done a lot of different orals, aas cycles, hgh while running. And nothing compares to this stuff in my experience. Got another 30k of it, going to dose smaller but more frequently. Will get crit checked in a few weeks.

 

[T&H]

So got 36k iu last week. On recommendation from a guy on an EPO cycle from PM, decided to switch it up from 2x weekly bolus doses to lower ED dosing. The half life is around 24 hours, did some research on a few studies on pubmed.

Did about 13k iu in the last week. Got bloodwork today:

November 2021- Hematocrit 44 5
February- Hematocrit 44.0
June 14- Hematocrit 47.5 after 20k IU
July 1- Hematocrit 48.8 after 33k IU
July 13- Hematocrit 47.4 after 57k IU
July 27- Hematocrit 48.9 after 70k iu

Highest crit so far. My run today was awesome, 7.5 at the fastest pace so far. Heat index was around 100, but lowest in a while. Going to continue this run and see how the EPO does as crit gets higher.

 

[cmK9s33]

So got 36k iu last week. On recommendation from a guy on an EPO cycle from PM, decided to switch it up from 2x weekly bolus doses to lower ED dosing. The half life is around 24 hours, did some research on a few studies on pubmed.

I'm assuming your EPO comes in pre-loaded syringes since I've never seen it otherwise. Are the needles permanently attached to the syringe? Or do you simply reuse the same needle until you've fully used the contents of the syringe?

 

[T&H]

I'm assuming your EPO comes in pre-loaded syringes since I've never seen it otherwise. Are the needles permanently attached to the syringe? Or do you simply reuse the same needle until you've fully used the contents of the syringe?

Yes, preloaded with non removable needles. You can reuse till empty, or dump the syringe Into an empty hgh or peptide vial. And then draw out whatever you want with a new insulin syringe, where every 0.1ML=1,000IU.

 

[cmK9s33]

Yes, preloaded with non removable needles. You can reuse till empty, or dump the syringe Into an empty hgh or peptide vial. And then draw out whatever you want with a new insulin syringe, where every 0.1ML=1,000IU.

Thanks man.

One other thing, would you have any idea how much it can be damaged during delivery with the heat right now? Not sure where you live so unsure of the temperatures, but I live in the southeastern US and the only suppliers I've come across can't do a cold pack. So the EPO will be put through some nasty heat during delivery.

 

[DoritosAndGatorade]

Does EPO results linger or do the effects go away once you stop taking it?

Never understood the drug.

 

[T&H]

Thanks man.

One other thing, would you have any idea how much it can be damaged during delivery with the heat right now? Not sure where you live so unsure of the temperatures, but I live in the southeastern US and the only suppliers I've come across can't do a cold pack. So the EPO will be put through some nasty heat during delivery.

My apologies, I never realized you asked this till I got the notification from the guy above.

I too live in southeastern USA and it's hot. While I think its possible there might be some degradation, I don't believe it loses all potency. Another guy on PM was getting his intl too and got great results. Obviously fall/winter is better to order but a source like emre or BG with express shipping will work.

Does EPO results linger or do the effects go away once you stop taking it?

Never understood the drug.

I haven't stopped yet, but the studies I read showed it lingered a few weeks after cessation. Which is odd considering the half life is short.

 

[cmK9s33]

Does EPO results linger or do the effects go away once you stop taking it?

Never understood the drug.

I haven't used it yet but from what I've been able to gather from users' experiences, its effects are fleeting. The increase in rbc/hemoglobin will linger for some time afterwards, which should aid to a degree in long duration aerobic activity. But many users I spoken with claim it also has a pretty dramatic effect on repeated effort, shorter duration exercise (800m repeats for example). This effect seems to be lost very shortly after cessation of the drug.

 

[cmK9s33]

My apologies, I never realized you asked this till I got the notification from the guy above.

I too live in southeastern USA and it's hot. While I think its possible there might be some degradation, I don't believe it loses all potency. Another guy on PM was getting his intl too and got great results. Obviously fall/winter is better to order but a source like emre or BG with express shipping will work.

Thank you man. Would you consider adding the contents of each syringe to a sterile vial and use an insulin syringe to accurately measure a dose? The epo syringes I've seen pictures of don't have any tick marks.

 

[T&H]

But many users I spoken with claim it also has a pretty dramatic effect on repeated effort, shorter duration exercise (800m repeats for example). This effect seems to be lost very shortly after cessation of the drug.

This is exactly what the guy on PM said, his name is pmcchris something. He has a great log with interesting results, you should find his log and read it.

In regards to the dosage from another vial, below is what I do. I reused an empty hgh vial, works great. You could use a sterile vial as well.

The Binocrit epo syringes do have 0.1ML indicator marks, but they are extremely hard to see when injecting. I always put the contents into another vial for accurate dosing.

Yes, preloaded with non removable needles. You can reuse till empty, or dump the syringe Into an empty hgh or peptide vial. And then draw out whatever you want with a new insulin syringe, where every 0.1ML=1,000IU.

 

[T&H]

Just wanted to update. Have maintained 40 plus mpw but last week fatigue set in. So having to cut back some. Still using epo and added in 400mg eq 3 weeks ago. Bloodwork yesterday:

November 2021- Hematocrit 44 5
February- Hematocrit 44.0
June 14- Hematocrit 47.5 after 20k IU
July 1- Hematocrit 48.8 after 33k IU
July 13- Hematocrit 47.4 after 57k IU
July 27- Hematocrit 48.9 after 70k iu
August 12- Hematocrit 51 9

Going to stop epo for now, will hang onto for future use. Hoping to maintain Hematocrit around here without getting too high.

 

[cmK9s33]

This is exactly what the guy on PM said, his name is pmcchris something. He has a great log with interesting results, you should find his log and read it.

In regards to the dosage from another vial, below is what I do. I reused an empty hgh vial, works great. You could use a sterile vial as well.

The Binocrit epo syringes do have 0.1ML indicator marks, but they are extremely hard to see when injecting. I always put the contents into another vial for accurate dosing.

I've read his log too. Great information. There were several others on that PM thread that have used EPO and their comments pretty well reinforced what pmcchris had written.

Thanks again.

 

[SkankHunt]

Awesome log, can’t believe I didn’t see it before now. A bunch of guys I train with are big into EPO before competitions.

 

[Megadick3000]

I also really appreciate you taking the time to make this log. I admit EPO is one of the few PEDs i lack much knowledge on so this has been a nice educational experience for me.

I would love it if you would produce a future log on DADA 250 which is Di-Isopropylamine Dichloroacetate that can be bought as vet grade finished product online.

I think i mentioned it before in this thread, its used for grey hound racing with notable performance improvements.

 

[cmK9s33]

I also really appreciate you taking the time to make this log. I admit EPO is one of the few PEDs i lack much knowledge on so this has been a nice educational experience for me.

I would love it if you would produce a future log on DADA 250 which is Di-Isopropylamine Dichloroacetate that can be bought as vet grade finished product online.

I think i mentioned it before in this thread, its used for grey hound racing with notable performance improvements.

Got any links to info on DADA 250? I've never heard of it.