im vs subq injections

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Pegging is the only way to get rid of those nasty subq bumps.
 
So did left glute im. Already slightly more sore but not anything bad or abnormal. But if subq does absorb as good as Im I see no reason to do IM . Maybe some exceptions like volume injected or substance. I would almost argue if say I had to do 2ml or 3ml a day I'd rather do two smaller subq doses than one bigger im one.

But I think it all comes down to preference and techniques and maybe some luck that it doesn't leak for you if that's an issue.
 
What length needle? And do you have trouble pushing the oil through a 27g using a 3cc syringe?
All of my needles are half inch apart from the insulin syringes. I primarily use a 5ml syringe with a 20 gauge to draw the oil and then dump that oil into the back of an open 3ml syringe along with a 27 gauge needle.

It does take slightly more time to push the plunger down with the 27 gauge but it isn't as bad as you may think.

If I am only injecting 1ml I'll use a slin needle. I think it's 8mm if I'm not mistaken.
 
Tried subq w 30g in abdomen. Immediately leaked so just did it with 27 in glute. Maybe I'll try 27 abdomen next time I just went with what worked so I didn't waste more today. But only thing I notice really is with all I'm I don't necessarily get pip but I think the displacement of tissue from oil causes cramps
 
All of my needles are half inch apart from the insulin syringes. I primarily use a 5ml syringe with a 20 gauge to draw the oil and then dump that oil into the back of an open 3ml syringe along with a 27 gauge needle.

It does take slightly more time to push the plunger down with the 27 gauge but it isn't as bad as you may think.

If I am only injecting 1ml I'll use a slin needle. I think it's 8mm if I'm not mistaken.
Just pinned 1 cc of sus 400 in my front delt sub q w slin pin (30g 8mm). Left a big bump and pip sucks worse than IM. How are you avoiding this?
 
Just pinned 1 cc of sus 400 in my front delt sub q w slin pin (30g 8mm). Left a big bump and pip sucks worse than IM. How are you avoiding this?
I wouldn't do sub q on delts. I've actually never done sub Q there.

I pin IM on delts and subq on quads and glutes.

Higher concentrations are split .5cc into two locations.
 
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any advice to reduce the pip asap? supposed to hit back today, but my shoulder is killing me. constant pain even when not moving it. thanks.
Once you get moving the pain will be considerably lessened. It's more a constant level of pain, which sucks for just sitting at your desk but doesn't effect you very much while training.

If you really want to try something then put a hot pack on the area and take some advil. But it'll ultimately be fine.
 
Tbh when it comes to pip from high concentration I have zero knowledge or thoughts on what could help. I always recommend massaging the spot you inject a little at least to try and disperse the oil but with gear that concentration it may just spread the pain.
For me high mg gear causes a burny rash effect that nothing can help with. If it's just sore I agree using it slowly will help
 
Heat at first ibuprofen to help reduce swelling and massage gun if u can take pain.
I did sub q in glute yesterday with the pinch and 45⁰ angle 27g. 5"(1.2 t500 .2 deca 300) both high concentrations left a barley noticeable lump and 0 pain but probably going to stick to IM dont really trust how well its being absorbed.
 
Yeah sust 250 is what I use and it is great. Zero pip. Deca 300 is good too. But 400 to 500 mg/ml Is alot and the esters and ba/bb required makes it inherently more prone to pip
 
I tried stomach subq eod for 3 months - worst idea ever - in the beginning i was feeling normal but at some point i started feeling different every day

then noticed that the oil doesnt absorb equally every time i pin - sometimes it disappears a few days after, sometimes a week after - i imagine how my levels were... oils just cant absorb that good within the fat

so now i pin im twice a week with small needle - its great
 
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