Opininons about testosterone undecanoate

[lovedajuice]

Why does it seem like testosterone undecanoate is not that popular?
I've been on TRT for a bit over a year now, tried both test c and test e, I like test c much more than test e and in order to get the best benefits and lowest sides I pin twice weekly although I could probably pin once a week and be fine as well. Now I was thinking why not switch to test u? I'm on 250mg per week and considering its half life I could probably inject 1000mg every four weeks and get the same result, or to make levels more stable it could even be 500mg every two weeks, it would still be more convenient than pinning twice weekly. So what are your opinions on this? If I switch to test u with that protocol will I get the same benefits I'm getting with my current protocol using test c? And what would be better, injecting once every four weeks or split once every two weeks?

 

[Rido]

I'm a big fan of test U. I would rather do weekly or every 2 weeks.


It's harder to titrate for sure. It is not as potent as test c/e...

Some people may not stay on either. But a true TRTer could be beneficial

 

[Rido]

I'm also running 220 weekly now. I was on 190 and my test levels 5 days out from injection were in the high 600s. I will get bloods in 5 weeks to see where I am at.

 

[lovedajuice]

Yep you're right, according to the steroid plotter it seems like a weekly shot would be ideal, and since there are less mgs of testosterone per mg of undecanoate it seems like 300mg per week would be closer to 250mg per week of test c, I can get a prescriprion for nebido, but with those 4ml ampoules it would probably be impossible to do once a week, and storing that is syringes for over 3 weeks is also not good, either I will need to transfer that into a 10ml vial or go UGL, what do you think @Cridi887 ?

 

[Rido]

Yep you're right, according to the steroid plotter it seems like a weekly shot would be ideal, and since there are less mgs of testosterone per mg of undecanoate it seems like 300mg per week would be closer to 250mg per week of test c, I can get a prescriprion for nebido, but with those 4ml ampoules it would probably be impossible to do once a week, and storing that is syringes for over 3 weeks is also not good, either I will need to transfer that into a 10ml vial or go UGL, what do you think @Cridi887 ?

I went for a tested UGL source. I got 15 vials from him. I had enough to last me for 2.5 years but I think I might use it for a blast now.

 

[lovedajuice]

I went for a tested UGL source. I got 15 vials from him. I had enough to last me for 2.5 years but I think I might use it for a blast now.

I see, I think I will also go for a trusted UGL

 

[hudson98]

Why does it seem like testosterone undecanoate is not that popular?
I've been on TRT for a bit over a year now, tried both test c and test e, I like test c much more than test e and in order to get the best benefits and lowest sides I pin twice weekly although I could probably pin once a week and be fine as well. Now I was thinking why not switch to test u? I'm on 250mg per week and considering its half life I could probably inject 1000mg every four weeks and get the same result, or to make levels more stable it could even be 500mg every two weeks, it would still be more convenient than pinning twice weekly. So what are your opinions on this? If I switch to test u with that protocol will I get the same benefits I'm getting with my current protocol using test c? And what would be better, injecting once every four weeks or split once every two weeks?

IT sounds like test E and C are working just fine, why fix something thats not broken? We must have someone here pushing this stuff. I have never seen a single thread about super long acting test on any other forum yet we have 5 of them here. Someone is doing a good job marketing,.

 

[Rido]

IT sounds like test E and C are working just fine, why fix something thats not broken? We must have someone here pushing this stuff. I have never seen a single thread about super long acting test on any other forum yet we have 5 of them here. Someone is doing a good job marketing,.

Come on man. To each their own. There is a reason why test c replaced test e, which replaced test prop, which replaced test base.


There is no money involved because test u raws are as cheap as test c. Same with the ugl vials.


Even one of the mods on another forum is doing test u and had a log

 

[lovedajuice]

IT sounds like test E and C are working just fine, why fix something thats not broken? We must have someone here pushing this stuff. I have never seen a single thread about super long acting test on any other forum yet we have 5 of them here. Someone is doing a good job marketing,.

Shorter esters just don't make sense when being on TRT, the longer the ester the better, easier on the muscles and more convenient when travelling, I don't see why test u is not more popular, and no marketing at all, I have a stash full of test c and test e, and I love test c, I can't say the same about test e, but man I'm definitely gonna switch to test u next time I buy.

 

[Rido]

Shorter esters just don't make sense when being on TRT, the longer the ester the better, easier on the muscles and more convenient when travelling, I don't see why test u is not more popular, and no marketing at all, I have a stash full of test c and test e, and I love test c, I can't say the same about test e, but man I'm definitely gonna switch to test u next time I buy.

also to be honest. I am probably the biggest pusher for test U on this forum. But the titration procedure is a little more difficult than test C.

I don't tell anyone to get on it but I will try to help them guide for the right dose and loading

 

[hudson98]

Come on man. To each their own. There is a reason why test c replaced test e, which replaced test prop, which replaced test base.


There is no money involved because test u raws are as cheap as test c. Same with the ugl vials.


Even one of the mods on another forum is doing test u and had a log

I just googled "aveed reddit" first things I see it costs way more so pharma is making way more $ of it than a cheap bottle of cyp. Guys doctors telling them to shoot it 5x a year (have no clue) and guys posting how their levels are all over the place with it.

If I want stable levels, I do frequent injections. Or I can try and be cute and never pin and hope for the best. Easy choice for me. I shoot prop ED, very simple. If someone wants to shoot some long ester once a month and hope for the best or keep getting their levels tested to Get a snap shot and think they are stable thats fine I just think its bat shit insane.

Its like rather than taking a multi vitamin daily trying to make one you can take once a week. Its not broke no need to fix it IMO

 

[hudson98]

Shorter esters just don't make sense when being on TRT, the longer the ester the better, easier on the muscles and more convenient when travelling, I don't see why test u is not more popular, and no marketing at all, I have a stash full of test c and test e, and I love test c, I can't say the same about test e, but man I'm definitely gonna switch to test u next time I buy.

They make perfect sense when on TRT. now for travel that may be different. But if im on TRT or a cycle I want to use what is known to work and be ideal, not experiment. I look better on prop than test E< haven't used long acting test in years.

 

[Rido]

I just googled "aveed reddit" first things I see it costs way more so pharma is making way more $ of it than a cheap bottle of cyp. Guys doctors telling them to shoot it 5x a year (have no clue) and guys posting how their levels are all over the place with it.

That is correct. It's being it's pharmaceutical/doctor controlled right now. Just like the general doctors prescribing 200mg-400mg of cyp once every 2 weeks.

But trt clinics are not prescribing it. They are making more money off of cyp at 200 dollars a bottle.

 

[lovedajuice]

also to be honest. I am probably the biggest pusher for test U on this forum. But the titration procedure is a little more difficult than test C.

I don't tell anyone to get on it but I will try to help them guide for the right dose and loading

Yeah it will probably take much longer to get it right

 

[lovedajuice]

I just googled "aveed reddit" first things I see it costs way more so pharma is making way more $ of it than a cheap bottle of cyp. Guys doctors telling them to shoot it 5x a year (have no clue) and guys posting how their levels are all over the place with it.

If I want stable levels, I do frequent injections. Or I can try and be cute and never pin and hope for the best. Easy choice for me. I shoot prop ED, very simple. If someone wants to shoot some long ester once a month and hope for the best or keep getting their levels tested to Get a snap shot and think they are stable thats fine I just think its bat shit insane.

Its like rather than taking a multi vitamin daily trying to make one you can take once a week. Its not broke no need to fix it IMO

Doctors don't know shit about TRT protocols, some of them are prescribing 250mg injections of test e once every 3-4 weeks, if some people on reddit are stupid it doesn't mean all users are stupid, or do you inject test p once a week? Also nebido or aveed is pharma grade and with inflated prices by the clinics/pharmacies depending on the location like any other pharma grade drug, less frequent injections means lower costs.

They make perfect sense when on TRT. now for travel that may be different. But if im on TRT or a cycle I want to use what is known to work and be ideal, not experiment. I look better on prop than test E< haven't used long acting test in years.

It's not an experiment, it's just knowing what the half life is and injecting according to that and personal reaction to the compound, which needs to be done for every compound a person decides to use.

 

[OmL]

I'm also running 220 weekly now. I was on 190 and my test levels 5 days out from injection were in the high 600s. I will get bloods in 5 weeks to see where I am at.

Just spotted this now. Individual response is crazy, 175mg a week had me at 977ng/dl 6 days after injection.

 

[Rido]

Just spotted this now. Individual response is crazy, 175mg a week had me at 977ng/dl 6 days after injection.

I do wonder about the proper Concentration from each brewer tbh. I have only seen one tested test u

 

[hudson98]

That is correct. It's being it's pharmaceutical/doctor controlled right now. Just like the general doctors prescribing 200mg-400mg of cyp once every 2 weeks.

But trt clinics are not prescribing it. They are making more money off of cyp at 200 dollars a bottle.

absolutely, TRT clinic are dealer the most $$ is what you need, according to them. I disagree though that anyone should be using these long esters, the only benefit is they are scared of pinning. I like prop myself.

 

[Rido]

absolutely, TRT clinic are dealer the most $$ is what you need, according to them. I disagree though that anyone should be using these long esters, the only benefit is they are scared of pinning. I like prop myself.

That's fine. If you truly believe that is the only benefit.

 

[hudson98]

why does prop, NPP, test base, tren ace, mast prop why do these things even exist? I mean we have the "superior" test e, deca, tren E, and mast E?

Tren ace and NPP, why do they even exist?