Frontloading? This doesn't make sense?

[mr.redpill]

I've read so many people referring to this concept.

I was thinking of "frontloading" my next cycle but I didn't quite understand it, so naturally, I wanted to put it in a visual format for myself(I learn better this way) using steroid plotter.

*Not my cycle- just as an example*
In the first plot, I frontload 250mg EOD for the first week, followed by 125mg EOD for weeks 2-16.
As you can see, levels stabilize around day 32-35.

In the second plot, I just run 125mg EOD straight through weeks 1-16.
Levels stabilizes right around day 25-28.

What is the point of frontloading if you're just going to have a massive spike for a week or two, and levels are going to take longer to stabilize?
Can someone tell me I've done this completely wrong because it just doesn't make any sense to me?

Or is reaching stable levels quicker not actually the the point of a frontload? Is the point of a front load just to blast off ASAP?

I'm missing something here.

 

[bigrobbie]

I've always utilized an oral like dbol or something as a typical "front load" I have used a short ester gear in tandem with my long ester gear the first few weeks with the same principle

 

[HB_22]

Makes no sense. What I prefere more is slowly building up and start low and increase the dose every 3-4 weeks when you reach a plateau in training or just seem to stall in progression. Imho you get way more out of this than by jumping straight to the final dose right away by frontloading.

 

[29trt]

lower the frontload dose in your example to get a smoother transition, the spike is not mandatory its just a result of the dosage and frequency that is to say if you match the frontload dose with the maintain dose you will get the fastest possible rise with a perfect level off. did this my last cycle with both test cyp and deca.

 

[Chuck Spears]

I think I used a 50% higher dose the first 2 injections for a smoother curve.
For enathates anyway.

 

[bigrobbie]

I've read so many people referring to this concept.

I was thinking of "frontloading" my next cycle but I didn't quite understand it, so naturally, I wanted to put it in a visual format for myself(I learn better this way) using steroid plotter.

*Not my cycle- just as an example*
In the first plot, I frontload 250mg EOD for the first week, followed by 125mg EOD for weeks 2-16.
As you can see, levels stabilize around day 32-35.

In the second plot, I just run 125mg EOD straight through weeks 1-16.
Levels stabilizes right around day 25-28.

What is the point of frontloading if you're just going to have a massive spike for a week or two, and levels are going to take longer to stabilize?
Can someone tell me I've done this completely wrong because it just doesn't make any sense to me?

Or is reaching stable levels quicker not actually the the point of a frontload? Is the point of a front load just to blast off ASAP?

I'm missing something here.


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Honestly, maybe you are overthinking just a bit. Just start your cycle at your weekly doses and stick to your protocol

 

[jJjburton]

I've read so many people referring to this concept.

I was thinking of "frontloading" my next cycle but I didn't quite understand it, so naturally, I wanted to put it in a visual format for myself(I learn better this way) using steroid plotter.

*Not my cycle- just as an example*
In the first plot, I frontload 250mg EOD for the first week, followed by 125mg EOD for weeks 2-16.
As you can see, levels stabilize around day 32-35.

In the second plot, I just run 125mg EOD straight through weeks 1-16.
Levels stabilizes right around day 25-28.

What is the point of frontloading if you're just going to have a massive spike for a week or two, and levels are going to take longer to stabilize?
Can someone tell me I've done this completely wrong because it just doesn't make any sense to me?

Or is reaching stable levels quicker not actually the the point of a frontload? Is the point of a front load just to blast off ASAP?

I'm missing something here.


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Frontloading just loads up on side effects rather then muscle. The sides will kick you ass faster and longer then before any managable muscle will become apparent, to the point you will most pikely dial dose down to make then go away.

I have tried frontloading 6-7 times. Each was awful. I did EQ, had to stop cycke short anxiety attack, i did EQ and Tren E panic attack stop cycle, i did Test C gyno flare sooo bad i ended up crashing esteogen to fix, mast E i shed my hair like crazy.

But i have ran these compounds without front loading perfectly to my liking.

 

[Norse13]

A simple method if you use ent/cyp esters is to add 50% of weekly dose to a shot on the first day. It brings up levels much quicker.
E.g plan is 2 x 500mg per week (1g per week). Add 500mg on first day.

 

[Type-IIx]

The rationale of front-loading is to reach that steady state concentration (after 4 half-lives) more quickly so that you can shorten the duration of the cycle/blast. I agree that it's not practically sound, however, because the AAS is still exerting an effect before it reaches steady state (it just so happens that the accumulation of new muscle takes about 2 - 3 weeks given the rate of translation processes/muscle protein synthesis). One (accumulation of new muscle) does not follow from the other (steady state concentration), however. In practice, front-loading often causes negative side effects to outweigh the benefits.

 

[Rido]

I guess I like to front load long esters. I did it for deca. 2x target dose the first week.

I had no issues though.

If you use test U, you pretty much have to front load

 

[29trt]

a ok left out some details, I do not run cycles at fixed dosages so no 2g 20weeks run, front loading that would surely bring a ton of sides... I start a cycle atva minimum efective dose and titrate up over the weeks/months so i might start at 700mg and go up to 1.5-2g at the end of the "cycle". So going from a 250 cruise to 700 is not that big of a jump and I didn't get any sides.
front loading was more of a insignificant detail that I just thought why not...